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PM Yingluck Seen As Taking Orders From Thaksin, Overshadowed By Chalerm


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It seems PM Hun Sen of Cambodia said today that k. Thaksin will begin a visit to Cambodia on Sept 16 to attend the Asian Economic Forum Conference on the 19th. K. Thaksin would stay from 16 till 24.

K. Noppadon has already said the trip has not been confirmed yet.

In another development our PM, the ever smiling Ms. Yingluck will make a one-day visit to Cambodia on Thursday the 15th.

Till now no overlap in stay in Cambodia, but watch these pages for updates which are bound to follow :rolleyes:

Must be a close family if she couldn't be bothered to stay o/night to see her brother.B)

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I think Chalerm will be moved out of the cabinet in four months. I think they've put some people in as favours and perhaps left some more qualified people out (also the red leaders, of course, so not as to rock the boat too much), but they'll want to change that before too long. Chalerm is obviously there to transfer people and reshuffle the police. Often you need someone with a thick head to do that. He's the lightning rod which will draw all the flack whilst they do difficult things. Once he's made his money from taking bribes from cops in exchange for good positions, he'll probably be satisified enough anyway. How long did he last in the PPP govt? Four months, wasn't it?

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I myself donot try to read too much into what,where amd how a party in government anywhere in the world is ran. It is whether or not the people are benefitting from the leadership. I feel good leaders shoud delegate the work to be done to those capable. Leaders of a party are basically, just that leaders of a party not masters of the party. So they definitely donot have to weild their power directly in all matters. A good leader is a team player and believes in other members abilities to work for the same common good.

Could you possibly translate that into Eeeengleeesh..! keep taking your medicine..!

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I don't think any of this will really surprise the Thai electorate, whichever side they voted for.

The only thing that stood out for me is that the article suggests a widening rift between PTP and red shirt people. Although it is something that may eventually happen, I think this is just The Nation trying to stir opinion up as usual.

Indeed. The government and its actions will be judged by the people at the next election. In the meantime the anti-Thaksinista media and opposition can play the propaganda war with the government and the Thaksinista media. More interesting now is that the part of the Thai media with the biggest readership seems to have at least made a move to a more neutral position if not even gone slightly Thaksinista. While commenting on the PTP-red split, which right now is wishful thinking, little attention is paid to the splits in the anti-Thaksin alliance with the liberal wing and authoritarians drifting apart and the PAD sitting on the sidelines enjoying the Dems suffering. Interesting that the English language media doesnt analyse this but not surprising when considering the Nation has a known line with a couple of exceptions and the Post ownership

And your point being...???

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The PAD spokesman was on TV last night saying they would oppose any proposed amnesty for Thaksin.

Chalerm's been told to shut up by senior Pheua Thai but he loves the spotlight too much, like Thaksin he's excellent at making many enmies with his arrogance and sarcasm.

His daily one man talk show about Thaksin could be an attempt to divert attention from the failure to secure the minimum 300 baht a day wage and 15,000 baht salary.

Constantly talking about Thaksin keeps the rural base interested too. Thaksin is very popular in the sticks and a lot of those people want him back.

If the PAD go to the streets to try and prevent it, the reds will take to the streets to try and force it. Then what happens? The military are not seen as neutral so they cant really intervene and say they are doing it to save the country. There is a lot of brinksmanship going on but try finding people who dont think Thaksin will return. Im not talking about people who dont want him back, but actually think he wont be back. The PAD supporters I have talked to all think he is returning

I really do not think you have spoken to many Yellow shirts.... where do you live..??

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The Nation is so obviously bias to the former democrat lead government, I personally wouldn't believe a word it says.

It's not the job of the media to lick the backside of the government.

Oh Really? How about this?

The First Family

UPDATE : 8 July 2009

In Thailand we've had Constitutional Democracy for many decades and almost 30 prime ministers but none of those prime ministers' families are very prominent.

I use the term first family loosely because in the country, we have our Royal Family, which is above all. But I believe there is a void in politics that a more prominent first family can fulfill and who better to start this era of 'change' in Thailand than our Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva.

PM Abhisit is a dream-come-true prime minister for a lot of people, including myself. He cuts a dashing figure and is an asset to the country when traveling abroad with his fluent English skill. He's not just a pretty face but is talented as well, with extensive political experience and economic and social knowledge. Most importantly, he has a vision of how politics should be, 100% corruption free, and that truly endears him to my heart.

To further boost his popularity especially with people in the provinces, which he has not gotten around in doing so, he should market his picture-perfect family like no politicians have done so. I don't mean in the way of the political dynasties like we have of the Silapa-archa family, the Chidchob family, the Charnveerakul family and so on. I mean the happy family image like the Obama family in the U.S.

PM Abhisit's family is an asset and he should market that. His wife, Associate Professor Doctor Pimpen, is a gorgeous woman who's well-read and a professional working woman. Their children seem to be well-behaved with one just starting college. A local magazine had carried articles about the PM and his wife attending the orientation of their daughter and it made me hunger for more of this beautiful family.

The PM has always said his family values their privacy but I think it is time for them to sacrifice that and step into the public eye for the advancement of Khun Abhisit's career like no politicians have done before. They have what it takes to make it big and it will just require a little effort.

The PM has been having difficulties visiting the provinces, fearing red-shirt supporters' opposition and possible chaos so to fill that void like no one else can, he can send his wife. Since Khun Pimpen's an academic and a professor, she can dabble in trying to improve the livelihoods of school teachers and college professors nationwide. This issue is after all a key problem and something that needs to be addressed as part of educational reform. She can start visiting teachers and professors in the provinces as part of a project to improve their livelihoods. Their daughter, Nong Maprang, can be invited to take part in the various campaigns for teenagers against drugs, etc. She has artistic skills so she should be able to truly contribute. Even Khun Abhisit's parents and siblings should be marketed to improve his popularity.

The Vejjajiva family is truly a talented family and it is time for them to put their abilities to use to help the country and help Khun Abhisit achieve even greater popularity. I am confident they will not be merely figureheads but can really lend a hand for the various causes that they support. I hope to see a worthy first family with Khun Abhisit as prime minister.

Story by: Chadaporn Lin

http://www.tannetwor...?DataID=1016089

Chadaporn Lin, supposed "journalist" and presenter on TAN the not really biased network.

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Whereas I'm not sure PM Yingluck takes orders from k. Thaksin as alleged in the OP, Dept PM Yongyuth said Thaksin's return is overdue.

Asked how the government planned to bring back Thaksin, Yongyuth refused to elaborate, saying only that the Yingluck administration would not resort to legal changes or take any action that could be perceived as serving just one man.

A high-ranking Pheu Thai source who is close to Thaksin backed Yongyuth, saying the rush to get the former PM home was linked to the party's election pledge. As well as promising economic and welfare programmes, Pheu Thai candidates won support because they promised people that a Pheu Thai government would make it a priority to bring Thaksin back, the source claimed.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2011/09/13/national/Thaksins-return-is-overdue-Yongyuth-30165135.html

'rush linked to election pledge', time to find that quote again 'it's not a priority'. Government and Pheu Thai speakers keep contradicting each other to a point where it can only be clear that they do have a problem telling the truth.

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Impossible to extradite Thaksin from Cambodia: Chalerm

The government would not seek to extradite fugitive former prime minister Thaksin Shinwatra from Cambodia due to a lack of legal mandate, Deputy Prime Minister Chalerm Yoobamrung said on Thursday.

"The extradition request for Thaksin is impossible," he said in reference to Thaksin's visit to Phnom Penh tomorrow.

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-- The Nation 2011-09-15

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The government would not seek to extradite fugitive former prime minister Thaksin Shinwatra from Cambodia due to a lack of legal mandate, Deputy Prime Minister Chalerm Yoobamrung said on Thursday.

"The extradition request for Thaksin is impossible," he said in reference to Thaksin's visit to Phnom Penh tomorrow.

'lack of legal mandate'? Just like 'not pushing the pardon request for boss Thaksin' ?

I think k. Chalerm probably didn't say 'request impossible', he probably said 'not forthcoming'. For a Dept. PM, Pol.Capt. and long time k. Thaksin friend and admirer nothing is impossible :)

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The PAD supporters I have talked to all think he is returning

Do you seriously still have contact with PAD supporters? I ask because in my area, whilst there remains a large element of anti-Thaksin sentiment, it's very rare these days to meet an actual PAD supporter - all so "yesterday". Also, you yourself have mentioned many times how some of the PAD supporters you know have now switched allegiance to the red side - a phenomenon i must admit i have never witnessed. Anyway, what sort of numbers are we talking?

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  • 3 weeks later...

To let Chalerm try to install Priewpan Damapong as new police chief is dangerous.

Thaksin's brother-in-law

Stage set for Priewpan to become police chief

Deputy and acting national police chief, Poluce General Priewpan Damapong, is getting closer to the top police post.

Today, the Cabinet is expected to approve the transfer of National Police Chief General Wichean Potephosree to the post of Secretary-General of the National Security Council, following last week's royal endorsement of the transfer of the council's former Secretary-General, Thawil Pliensri, to an advisory post attached to Prime Minister's Office.

The post of national police chief will then be vacant, awaiting Priewpan's appointment. The posting is expected to be made by the Royal Thai Police Board this week.

Priewpan was this close to the top police post on a previous occasion last year, but then-prime minister Abhisit Vejjajiva decided to give the post to Wichean.

At that time, Priewpan expressed his dissatisfaction, claiming he had seniority. He questioned whether he had been bypassed because he is the older brother of Khunying Pojaman na Pombejra, ex-wife of former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra.

Priewpan, who was police drug-suppression chief in 2000, made his name during the Thaksin government's war on drugs.

From being 5th assistant police chief, Priewpan jumped to become deputy chief. Critics claimed at the time that his ascendancy was because of his relationship with Thaksin.

Priewpan was removed from the post of deputy police chief after the 2006 coup, but returned to the job in 2008 during the Samak Sundaravej government. He has only one year left before retirement.

Royal Thai Police Board secretary Pol General Ake Angsananont said yesterday that Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra had not yet scheduled a board meeting to select the national police chief, as the position had to be vacant first. Such a meeting had to be called three days in advance, he said.

According to the 2004 National Police Act, the prime minister must nominate a police officer with the rank of General for the board's approval before the appointment is submitted for royal endorsement. The Act does not stipulate how much time the candidate must have before retirement.

The Cabinet approved Thawil's transfer to the Prime Minister's Office on September 6, after Wichean agreed to leave his post as police chief if he could become NSC secretary-general. Wichean later took leave, paving the way for Priewpan to take the top police position in an acting capacity.

Thawil has filed a petition against Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra with the Merit Systems Protection Board, to protest against his transfer.

Preawphan was yesterday appointed a director of Thai Airways International. He replaces Sathit Limpongpan, whose term expired along with that of three other directors.

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-- The Nation 2011-10-04

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Priewpan was this close to the top police post on a previous occasion last year, but then-prime minister Abhisit Vejjajiva decided to give the post to Wichean.

At that time, Priewpan expressed his dissatisfaction, claiming he had seniority.

It escapes Priewpan that his seniority came about by unfair means.

Did he also step up and express dissatisfaction on behalf of others when he leapfrogged over those with more seniority???

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I myself donot try to read too much into what,where amd how a party in government anywhere in the world is ran. It is whether or not the people are benefitting from the leadership. I feel good leaders shoud delegate the work to be done to those capable. Leaders of a party are basically, just that leaders of a party not masters of the party. So they definitely donot have to weild their power directly in all matters. A good leader is a team player and believes in other members abilities to work for the same common good.

Could you possibly translate that into Eeeengleeesh..! keep taking your medicine..!

The English, grammar, and spelling may not be perfect, but the message is quite clear. Please advise what you don't understand and maybe we can break it down into very simple language for you.

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