webfact Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 WE DON'T TAKE KICKBACKS OR BRIBES: HIGHWAY POLICE Highway Police Plan Lawsuit against Land Cargo Fed The highway police is going to file civil charges against the land transport federation seeking of 50 million baht in compensation regarding allegations that the agency has been demanding kickbacks from cargo truck operators. Highway Police Chief Police Major General Norabun Naen-na said the accusation by the Land Transport Federation and its president Yoo Jienyuenpong that his agency has been demanding kickbacks from truck service operators in exchange for allowing them to carry loads above the legal weight limit is being investigated. The federation, led by Yoo, staged protests last week at the head office of the Highway Police asking that Norabun be dismissed due to accusations that cargo truck operators must buy stickers for 3,500 baht each from the agency's officers to pass weigh stations without being checked. The national police chief earlier assigned the Central Investigation Bureau, or CIB, to conduct an inquiry into the works of highway police officers. Norabun said he has already set up panels to investigate his agency's officers in provinces such as Pijit and Supanburi where many complaints about overloaded trucks have been filed. He said the CIB has given his agency 7 days to forward their findings, but say they may be unable to meet the deadline, so he is asking that the investigation be extended. The highway police yesterday held an exhibition to showcase its achievements in and seizing overloaded trucks and arresting narcotics smugglers over the past year. -- Tan Network 2011-09-16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crushdepth Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Maybe the motorists of Thailand should launch a class action against the police for decades of roadside shakedowns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keng11 Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Yeh right I have had to pay off one guy only 100baht for driving in the right hand lane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon467367354 Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 that's an outrageous statement, everybody knows they do. There seems to be a movement to just say the complete opposite of the truth, for what reason I don't know. At least they were correct in saying their are no gambling dens in Bangkok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 April 1st already... Thailand.. Hub of denial ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotary Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Everyone knows that cash will not get one out of a traffic violation.........now I will keep repeating this until I believe it myself! ha ha ha that's an outrageous statement, everybody knows they do. There seems to be a movement to just say the complete opposite of the truth, for what reason I don't know. At least they were correct in saying their are no gambling dens in Bangkok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janverbeem Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 He said the CIB has given his agency 7 days to forward their findings, but say they may be unable to meet the deadline, so he is asking that the investigation be extended. An extention in the range of " forever " springs to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkokrick Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Absolutely not and it's very unfair to say that they do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JurgenG Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 (edited) It's not the first time I hear about these stickers. But I don't understand what the Land Transport Federation is complaining about. They want the police to be more strict in giving fines to drivers who don't respect the weight limit ? Or they want the right to break the law without consequences ? Edited September 16, 2011 by JurgenG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freedom4life Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Maybe the motorists of Thailand should launch a class action against the police for decades of roadside shakedowns? I agree %100. Such hypocrites. If we were to sue the police for the amount of money they pocketed from so-called fines...they would have to declare bankruptcy...if they were able to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softgeorge Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Don't take kickbacks or bribes my arse. I can assure you 100% they do. I have been pulled over 1/2 dozen times for nothing and booked. Got the option if you want a receipt (infringement notice) then you pay 200 baht fine if you not want receipt then 100 baht fine. Get stopped at those highgway roadblocks and they see you are farang so the dollar signs light up and they ask you to pull to the side of the road. We know where they all are now between Chiangmai and Nakon Sawan so when we get close I change driving with the wife proceed through the stops and no shakedown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepi2005 Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 New proposal for a tourism campaign slogan: "Thailand - Land of Delusion." TAT, please transfer 8.5bn Baht into my account, details via PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newmember Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Brits should member that anyone bribing a public official anywhere in the world is liable for upto 10 years in jail in the UK. If I go back then I will be facing life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softgeorge Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Absolutely not and it's very unfair to say that they do That's ok buddy I believe you but 100's don't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirchai Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 April 1st already... Thailand.. Hub of denial ?? Hub of say no to money? Definitely not true.........:jap: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neek Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Maybe the motorists of Thailand should launch a class action against the police for decades of roadside shakedowns? I'm 35, British, been here 4 years or so. An older (65) British friend was telling me about his youth in Manchester, where the police would regularly be bribable, and one would go out driving illegally for some reason (license, lights, whatever) knowing that if you were caught, you could hand over a fiver or something and be on your way. Then the police wages were raised. Suddenly it wasn't worth the coppers' risking their jobs over such a payment, and the regime changed. The youth were pretty pissed off that their easy life was changed and they suddenly found themselves having to obey the law more, or of course hiding their violations better. My friend was pretty emphatic about it changing the way things worked forever. Times can change. Given time. And an incentive to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortenaa Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 When should people start think about consequences here. Overloading the truck gives much higher maintenance costs on the equipment. The overloaded trucks destroys the roads, for the public's annoyance, and giving the government unexpected maintenance costs on the roads. Its a win-win for all parts in the long run to start to follow the rules. Increased safety as well, as an overloaded truck will have much longer braking distance.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentnine Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 bribes what bribes... just a few over the years.. in fact i would call it extorsion not a bribe as if you don't pay waht recourse do you have ? its nto as if you get an option to go to court and argue that you were not speeding , or that the fact you were in the outside lane was that you were overtaking the lorry doing 30kmh ! 200bt .. driving with no shirt !! 400bt .. (3 times) outside lane on motorway 400bt at least 5 times.. over speedlimit when not over limit 400bt over speed limit (twice) , when really over ... the amazing part is when you sometimes see the policeman up a tree calling ahead ! 1 Ciggerete . the one time a argued and told them i was not speeding, was not in the outside lane, it still cost a ciggy 400bt.. illegal u-turn 300bt - overtaking while on a dual carriageway while traveling over a bridge . not even a real bridge ! in at least 10 back handers... only once a ticket and that was still 400bt lol despite all this its still a better system than a fine with court and points on your licence.. its just annoying that the times you really did nothing that they extort the money regardless on saying that .. is there a system where you can disagree with there acusation ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydebolle Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Mind-boggling again, what kind of BS is hitting the media on a daily basis. Nullified land deals = nothing illegally done, the Truck mafia against the world's corruptest police = pot calling kettle what? Subscribing to Thai Visa really brightens the day, every day - no fail! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janverbeem Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 When should people start think about consequences here. Overloading the truck gives much higher maintenance costs on the equipment. The overloaded trucks destroys the roads, for the public's annoyance, and giving the government unexpected maintenance costs on the roads. Its a win-win for all parts in the long run to start to follow the rules. Increased safety as well, as an overloaded truck will have much longer braking distance.. I recall that Thaksin in the heat of the energy crisis,when the gas stations had to close at 10 pm, made a law that allowed the trucks to be overloaded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SantiSuk Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 If I say 'no, give me a ticket and I'll pay at the police station' to the clear request for unrecorded cash at road blocks my Thai wife gets annoyed at my cultural terrorism, beckons them around to her side and pays them off. Result! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gers1873 Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 It happens in many under-developed countries where police need to supplement their income. Would you rather pay a 'spot fine' or go to the hassle of a trip to the police station to pay a much larger fine? Some posters need to get off their collective high-horses. We who pay the spot-fines exacerbate the problem but the solution may be found in paying police a decent wage. I say 'may' bacause corruption is so endemic in Thai society that increased salaries may not fix the problem. Best to always keep a few 100 baht notes in front of the car.:jap: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brimacthai Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 yeah my trip to Korat cost an extra 100B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chooka Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 I can honestly say that I have never bribed the Thai Police. I have on occassion given them a tip for thier dedication to road safety and upholding the rights of the people and the laws of the land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailand49 Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Bribe? Since this was brought to light now the BIB decides to get one big bribe at once 50 million baht now that is going to be one big legal bribe. This statement is laughable just like the one I read the other day from the head police guy regarding the rebate for new cars buyers. Statements against this project suggested the traffic would be worse in BKK, and the police said we can handle the traffic? I'm still laughing and its amazing they actually say it with a straight face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stacker10 Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 what a load of BS. Last time i went for visa trip to laos the driver stoped at one check point, not pulled over but stopped on the roadside.Took a envalope with money and went inside and paid.I asked him after and he just said for the big police för not having problem.This is all over.I paid to the police every month for my bar before.if u dont pay, u will be closed asap.same shit, different color on uniform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimbo Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Only once in the 10-15 times I have been stopped and told to pay for some non-existing traffic violation I ended up not having to pay. That was the one time I had actually broken the law. Driving at around 120km/h, I was told by the smiling police man, that That the speed limit in Thailand was 90. So I should not exceed 100km/h for the rest of my journey.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryp Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Obviously its not a Statement from the Thai Highway police LOL Can I have all my money back then? you know: that I paid almost weekly to the Highway police sitting on the road just outside Pattaya located before getting onto the Express way Disgusting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rascalman Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Anyone who has been to or lived in Thailand know it is a daily business. Get their gambling,drinking,whore money with these shake downs. I have been in several taxis that were pulled over. I pay the fine for the driver, they work 12 hrs a day for often just 300 or so baht a day after fuel and rent. I do not know how they ever smile. Do your part! Maybe the motorists of Thailand should launch a class action against the police for decades of roadside shakedowns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newguy70 Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 I agree regarding a title change of " Have you ever been victim of extortion from Thai Traffic Police". I mean it's a given if you ride a big bike. . . I just smile. I have not been hit with a donation request in about a year, but I think its a combination of things. My spoken thai is that much better, I don't part with my license, and i stop alot less, yeah thats it. I hit alot of.checkpoints,and you see the same guys out at these points. So why is it always the same old story "license check", try something new atleast. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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