webfact Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Interior reshuffle waiting on Thaksin A much-awaited reshuffle of senior Interior Ministry officials will not be submitted to the Cabinet for approval today, reportedly because “de-facto Pheu Thai Party leader” Thaksin Shinawatra has not decided on the proposed appointment of Pranai Suwannarat as the new permanent secretary, a ministry source said yesterday. The shortlist, which contains the personal recommendations of Deputy Prime Minister and Interior Minister Yongyuth Wichaidit, has been submitted to the fugitive prime minister, who is now based in Hong Kong, the source said. The source did not explain the alleged delay in Thaksin’s decision on the appointment of Pranai, who is now a deputy serving as acting permanent secretary. Most officials promoted during the previous government are expected to be replaced in the reshuffle by those with connections to Pheu Thai. The stalled reshuffle delays many key appointments, including all provincial governor posts, as well as the final order transferring incumbent permanent secretary Wichian Chawalit to a post attached to the PM's Office Ministry. Another key position that has yet to be decided is the successor to Department Of Provincial Administration director-general Wongsak Sawasdiphanich, who retires on Friday. The delay in this case is reportedly due to Yongyuth’s desire that Pracha Terat succeed Wongsak, while Sukit Jaroenrattanakul, the other candidate, is close to Thaksin, the source said. A separate list involving a reshuffle of deputy provincial governors is under consideration by ministry leaders, and will be submitted to the Cabinet meeting on October 3. An additional list covering the promotion of deputy governors to take over from retirees is expected to be complete by mid-October. -- The Nation 2011-09-27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWalkingMan Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 (edited) de-facto Pheu Thai Party Prime Minister leader These reporters need to get things right. Edited September 26, 2011 by TheWalkingMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who, me ? Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 (edited) PM Yingluk will certainly deny that blah blah blah..... Edited September 26, 2011 by Who, me ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 (edited) de-facto Pheu Thai Party Prime Minister leader These reporters need to get things right. ]Quite right, they also refer to him as "fugitive Prime Minister". I was always under the illusion that he was the " fugitive ex-prime minister"? Perhaps Thailand does indeed have two Prime Ministers. Edited September 26, 2011 by ratcatcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siampolee Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 The shortlist, which contains the personal recommendations of Deputy Prime Minister and Interior Minister Yongyuth Wichaidit, has been submitted to the fugitive prime minister, who is now based in Hong Kong, the source said. Surely is it not about time that this current administration was dissolved as it is clearly being dominated by a renegade fugitive from justice who has his own agenda of absolute power at any cost. Kim -Jong- il move over Thaksin is coming to a place near you soon!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOODLOVER Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 The shortlist, which contains the personal recommendations of Deputy Prime Minister and Interior Minister Yongyuth Wichaidit, has been submitted to the fugitive prime minister, who is now based in Hong Kong, the source said. Surely is it not about time that this current administration was dissolved as it is clearly being dominated by a renegade fugitive from justice who has his own agenda of absolute power at any cost. Kim -Jong- il move over Thaksin is coming to a place near you soon!!! Agree How much evidence does one need to show that Yingluck is not running the government. The criminal fugitive Thaksin is. He is still banned, right? What measures are in place that can be taken if some one is banned and does not abide by his banishment? Curious as to the rules and regulation when this is flaunted so openly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 The shortlist, which contains the personal recommendations of Deputy Prime Minister and Interior Minister Yongyuth Wichaidit, has been submitted to the fugitive prime minister, who is now based in Hong Kong, the source said. Surely is it not about time that this current administration was dissolved as it is clearly being dominated by a renegade fugitive from justice who has his own agenda of absolute power at any cost. Kim -Jong- il move over Thaksin is coming to a place near you soon!!! You must remember that Kim-Jong-il is not the president. That title is reserved for President Forever Kim-il-Sung, a man whose aspiration more closely match k.Thaksin's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moe666 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 They are afraid of red shirt riots if they do anything, thats why Big T is getting away with it. Talking to my girlfriend a few days ago and she said he would be killed if he came back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaidam Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 They are afraid of red shirt riots if they do anything, thats why Big T is getting away with it. Talking to my girlfriend a few days ago and she said he would be killed if he came back. And there lies the crux of the problem. Thaksin knows full well he can never return, hence the scorched earth policy he has been following. Basically if he can't have absolute power then he will try to destroy the country completely. Yay for red democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pisico Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 de-facto Pheu Thai Party Prime Minister leader These reporters need to get things right. Unidentified sources. Anonymous sources, etc. are so easy to "quote and/or fabricate". A serious newspaper will substantiate a claim with factual data. Speculation and wishful thinking are not facts. No matter how deeply a contributing hack wants to extrapolate and/or interpret the tea leaves, reality can and may come back to bite the derriere. While it will please the anti-Thaksinista, OCD delusional populace, with such OP The Nation falls more and more into the category of a yellow press rag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 de-facto Pheu Thai Party Prime Minister leader These reporters need to get things right. ]Quite right, they also refer to him as "fugitive Prime Minister". I was always under the illusion that he was the " fugitive ex-prime minister"? Perhaps Thailand does indeed have two Prime Ministers. He was the "fugitive ex-prime minister". Since the last election he is the "fugitive Prime Minister". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Unidentified sources. Anonymous sources, etc. are so easy to "quote and/or fabricate". A serious newspaper will substantiate a claim with factual data. ... You should tell that to Bob Woodard and Carl Bernstein at the Washington Post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansnl Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 (edited) Why is it I cannot escape the idea this government is only busy, most of the time, with the return of god....oops.....Mr T Thailand, Mr T's personal business. Edited September 27, 2011 by hansnl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 (edited) I hear that Thaksin was in earnest discussions to ensure the Interior Ministry's lavatory attendants should be reshuffled and replaced with loyal red shirts. The previous group of ethnic Khmer sanitary experts, brought with him from Buriram by the previous "phantom" minister, Newin Chidchop, is considering appealing against their transfer to inactive lavatories that seldom see a political sh*t to the Administrative Court. Edited September 27, 2011 by Arkady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phiphidon Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Unidentified sources. Anonymous sources, etc. are so easy to "quote and/or fabricate". A serious newspaper will substantiate a claim with factual data. ... You should tell that to Bob Woodard and Carl Bernstein at the Washington Post. Bob Woodard and Carl Bernstein won a Pulitzer Prize for their work on the Watergate Scandal. The OP doesn't even name a reporter and a mystery "ministry source" is hardly a "Deep Throat". This sentence will probably be the only time that the Washington Post and The Nation (Thailand) appear together, such is the gulf in quality. Bad, bad example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Unidentified sources. Anonymous sources, etc. are so easy to "quote and/or fabricate". A serious newspaper will substantiate a claim with factual data. ... You should tell that to Bob Woodard and Carl Bernstein at the Washington Post. Bob Woodard and Carl Bernstein won a Pulitzer Prize for their work on the Watergate Scandal. The OP doesn't even name a reporter and a mystery "ministry source" is hardly a "Deep Throat". This sentence will probably be the only time that the Washington Post and The Nation (Thailand) appear together, such is the gulf in quality. Bad, bad example. Although the example may not have been the best one possible, you have to keep in mind the almost draconian defamation laws here in Thailand. That makes it 'better safe than sorry' even if the source leaked on purpose or was even ordered to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILT Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 de-facto Pheu Thai Party Prime Minister leader These reporters need to get things right. Unidentified sources. Anonymous sources, etc. are so easy to "quote and/or fabricate". A serious newspaper will substantiate a claim with factual data. Speculation and wishful thinking are not facts. No matter how deeply a contributing hack wants to extrapolate and/or interpret the tea leaves, reality can and may come back to bite the derriere. While it will please the anti-Thaksinista, OCD delusional populace, with such OP The Nation falls more and more into the category of a yellow press rag. It's called counter propaganda to the bullsh*t propaganda that Thaskin and the red shirts has been spouting since the coup. I,m considering calling all the pro Taskin poster (PTP) "The Fish" because you all always take the bait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mijan24 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 I hear that Thaksin was in earnest discussions to ensure the Interior Ministry's lavatory attendants should be reshuffled and replaced with loyal red shirts. The previous group of ethnic Khmer sanitary experts, brought with him from Buriram by the previous "phantom" minister, Newin Chidchop, is considering appealing against their transfer to inactive lavatories that seldom see a political sh*t to the Administrative Court. Time to bring back the Minister for Toilets - does anyone else remember him parading around sitting high and mighty on his "throne"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 I hear that Thaksin was in earnest discussions to ensure the Interior Ministry's lavatory attendants should be reshuffled and replaced with loyal red shirts. The previous group of ethnic Khmer sanitary experts, brought with him from Buriram by the previous "phantom" minister, Newin Chidchop, is considering appealing against their transfer to inactive lavatories that seldom see a political sh*t to the Administrative Court. Time to bring back the Minister for Toilets - does anyone else remember him parading around sitting high and mighty on his "throne"? He (Chalerm's son) is Mr Airport Link now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerbalEd Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 de-facto Pheu Thai Party Prime Minister leader These reporters need to get things right. Unidentified sources. Anonymous sources, etc. are so easy to "quote and/or fabricate". A serious newspaper will substantiate a claim with factual data. Speculation and wishful thinking are not facts. No matter how deeply a contributing hack wants to extrapolate and/or interpret the tea leaves, reality can and may come back to bite the derriere. While it will please the anti-Thaksinista, OCD delusional populace, with such OP The Nation falls more and more into the category of a yellow press rag. So do you actually think that Thaksin is not directly influincing his sister and the Thai government? Really, do you actually believe that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammered Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 So now Pranai has been appointed by the cabinet will the Nation admit they got this story a little wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pisico Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 (edited) Unidentified sources. Anonymous sources, etc. are so easy to "quote and/or fabricate". A serious newspaper will substantiate a claim with factual data. ... You should tell that to Bob Woodard and Carl Bernstein at the Washington Post. Bob Woodard and Carl Bernstein won a Pulitzer Prize for their work on the Watergate Scandal. The OP doesn't even name a reporter and a mystery "ministry source" is hardly a "Deep Throat". This sentence will probably be the only time that the Washington Post and The Nation (Thailand) appear together, such is the gulf in quality. Bad, bad example. One TV member used the "almost draconian rule" that limits the press to justify the rumor, gossip nature of the OP that suggests the PM is awaiting orders from Mr. Thaksin. Where is the source? What's the name of the source? Recordings, video, etc.? Not only the OP is gossip-like and speculative but also can be grounds to bring a defamation lawsuit against The Nation by the current PM. The more the reason to refrain from publishing pieces of Gonzo journalism. The Gray Lady in NY lost a lot of credibility (and readership) with pieces similar to this one. News of the World used the same tactics plus illegal subterfuges that lead to its demise . Facts have to be the basis for the highest level of journalism, not rumor, gossip or baseless accusations. If the OCD anti-Thaksinita populace is happy, then The Naion accomplished its objective. But a wider spectrum of readership will migrate and may be forever lost as in the two aforementioned examples. The OCD populace will brand anyone who is not in full agreement with their perception of the truth as a "must be" pro Thaksin. Nothing will stop them from labeling, insulting, treating condescendingly diverging points of view. Not very democratic or pro freedom of speech. Oh! I forgot: they own the truth! Edited September 27, 2011 by pisico Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phiphidon Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Unidentified sources. Anonymous sources, etc. are so easy to "quote and/or fabricate". A serious newspaper will substantiate a claim with factual data. ... You should tell that to Bob Woodard and Carl Bernstein at the Washington Post. Bob Woodard and Carl Bernstein won a Pulitzer Prize for their work on the Watergate Scandal. The OP doesn't even name a reporter and a mystery "ministry source" is hardly a "Deep Throat". This sentence will probably be the only time that the Washington Post and The Nation (Thailand) appear together, such is the gulf in quality. Bad, bad example. Although the example may not have been the best one possible, you have to keep in mind the almost draconian defamation laws here in Thailand. That makes it 'better safe than sorry' even if the source leaked on purpose or was even ordered to do so. If thats the case Rubl, there's been more leaks about what the PTP government are doing, going to do or even thinking about doing, than Julian Assange. There's been a constant stream of "articles" from "sources" every day since day 1 of the administration. How can you defame what doesn't exist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthurwait Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 The shortlist, which contains the personal recommendations of Deputy Prime Minister and Interior Minister Yongyuth Wichaidit, has been submitted to the fugitive prime minister, who is now based in Hong Kong, the source said. Surely is it not about time that this current administration was dissolved as it is clearly being dominated by a renegade fugitive from justice who has his own agenda of absolute power at any cost. Kim -Jong- il move over Thaksin is coming to a place near you soon!!! Agree How much evidence does one need to show that Yingluck is not running the government. The criminal fugitive Thaksin is. He is still banned, right? What measures are in place that can be taken if some one is banned and does not abide by his banishment? Curious as to the rules and regulation when this is flaunted so openly. Have the 'Anti corruption rally' and staff canteen photo opportunities not convinced you of the honesty ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 The BKK Post has an online news item this afternoon saying the cabinet appointed Suwannarat as permanent secretary of the Interior Ministry.... So what happened with the supposed delay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 You should tell that to Bob Woodard and Carl Bernstein at the Washington Post. Bob Woodard and Carl Bernstein won a Pulitzer Prize for their work on the Watergate Scandal. The OP doesn't even name a reporter and a mystery "ministry source" is hardly a "Deep Throat". This sentence will probably be the only time that the Washington Post and The Nation (Thailand) appear together, such is the gulf in quality. Bad, bad example. Although the example may not have been the best one possible, you have to keep in mind the almost draconian defamation laws here in Thailand. That makes it 'better safe than sorry' even if the source leaked on purpose or was even ordered to do so. If thats the case Rubl, there's been more leaks about what the PTP government are doing, going to do or even thinking about doing, than Julian Assange. There's been a constant stream of "articles" from "sources" every day since day 1 of the administration. How can you defame what doesn't exist? Don't be so obtuse, dear PPD. If there's this constant stream of article it does exist otherwise there wouldn't be a stream of articles. If the description of the 'source' is not vague enough and the article writers are named, someone may successfully reason with the court that he/she was meant, here in Thailand that is. Anyway the OP is /reshuffle waiting for approval of the only thinker in the government and Pheu Thai, our fugitive criminal de facto PM. Sue me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammered Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Rubl. Do you know Pranai has been appointed today on time and as expected with no delay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemini81 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 The shortlist, which contains the personal recommendations of Deputy Prime Minister and Interior Minister Yongyuth Wichaidit, has been submitted to the fugitive prime minister, who is now based in Hong Kong, the source said. Surely is it not about time that this current administration was dissolved as it is clearly being dominated by a renegade fugitive from justice who has his own agenda of absolute power at any cost. Kim -Jong- il move over Thaksin is coming to a place near you soon!!! Agree How much evidence does one need to show that Yingluck is not running the government. The criminal fugitive Thaksin is. He is still banned, right? What measures are in place that can be taken if some one is banned and does not abide by his banishment? Curious as to the rules and regulation when this is flaunted so openly. There are no consequences for him, so he keeps going on. When you think about the lack of consequences, it explains a lot about banana republics everywhere in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backtonormal Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 The shortlist, which contains the personal recommendations of Deputy Prime Minister and Interior Minister Yongyuth Wichaidit, has been submitted to the fugitive prime minister, who is now based in Hong Kong, the source said. Surely is it not about time that this current administration was dissolved as it is clearly being dominated by a renegade fugitive from justice who has his own agenda of absolute power at any cost. Kim -Jong- il move over Thaksin is coming to a place near you soon!!! No one in particular but the anti Thaksin brigade make me wet patch my pants. If a fugitive convicted criminal can do so much what will happen when he becomes a pardoned ex pm. You boys will be needing new keyboards to cope with the anti Thaksin script you have to type everyday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammered Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 The shortlist, which contains the personal recommendations of Deputy Prime Minister and Interior Minister Yongyuth Wichaidit, has been submitted to the fugitive prime minister, who is now based in Hong Kong, the source said. Surely is it not about time that this current administration was dissolved as it is clearly being dominated by a renegade fugitive from justice who has his own agenda of absolute power at any cost. Kim -Jong- il move over Thaksin is coming to a place near you soon!!! No one in particular but the anti Thaksin brigade make me wet patch my pants. If a fugitive convicted criminal can do so much what will happen when he becomes a pardoned ex pm. You boys will be needing new keyboards to cope with the anti Thaksin script you have to type everyday Prasong has just stated he sees no circumstances under which Thaksin returns and talked the c word. Clearly at least the authoritarian side of the anti-Thaksinista alliance is going to oppose any deal. Now it remains to be seen whether they can keep their more liberal allies on the increasingly anti-democratic, authoritarian and risk filled train. This could be very nasty, see a game changing split or just sabre rattling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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