Enough said.

Back on topic, please.

One of you is Jewish and the other is a self confessed agnostic/atheist. You both have an agenda which doesn't happen to reconcile to mine so it makes any answer I provide simply more fuel for your fire.

Just briefly as a point of fact I am also an atheist so my 'agenda' if you want to put it that way is that of a humanist supporting universal human rights; indeed the rights of women come within that scope regardless of what religion they are or where they live - which takes us nicely back to the original topic - one small step in the right direction at least.

Abdullah of Saudi is all heart.