Thai Govt Should Have Tackled Flood Crisis Earlier: Experts

[DocN]

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<br />I seem to recall, that AV was not really unconscience with delight, when she was freed last year!<br />Suu Kyi...not Yingluck...<br />

<br />Do you have anything besides your recollection that shows anything relating to Abhisit's reaction to SuuKyi being released?<br />

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Unfortunately no. But that is why i stated "I seem to recall" and not "I am sure...here is the link!"

[whybother]

I seem to recall, that AV was not really unconscience with delight, when she was freed last year!<br />Suu Kyi...not Yingluck...

Do you have anything besides your recollection that shows anything relating to Abhisit's reaction to SuuKyi being released?

Unfortunately no. But that is why i stated "I seem to recall" and not "I am sure...here is the link!"

Maybe you can give a hint on where you recalled it from? And how / why you interpreted his reaction as being "unconscious with delight"?

It sounds to me like you're just making it up.

Edited October 16, 2011 by whybother

[DocN]

I seem to recall, that AV was not really unconscience with delight, when she was freed last year!<br />Suu Kyi...not Yingluck...

Do you have anything besides your recollection that shows anything relating to Abhisit's reaction to SuuKyi being released?

Unfortunately no. But that is why i stated "I seem to recall" and not "I am sure...here is the link!"

Maybe you can give a hint on where you recalled it from? And how / why you interpreted his reaction as being "unconscious with delight"?

It sounds to me like you're just making it up.

I recalled it from a CNN part on her release from house arrest...and I said that I recall he was NOT unconscience with delight, meaning he was rather ...moderate, compared to some other world leaders just as Obama, Merckel and so forth.

[Buchholz]

Meanwhile, back at Thai Government Should Have Tackled Flood Crisis Earlier: Experts

comes the news that 300,000 Thais face unemployment in just the industrial area of Ayuthhaya alone...

Labor ministry to aid flood-affected workers in Ayutthaya

AYUTTHAYA, 16 October 2011 (NNT) - Related agencies have been instructed to draft plans on flood relief operation to assist affected employees in Ayutthaya after 4 major industrial estates in the province have been submerged.

In response to a severe ongoing inundation in Ayutthaya that has so far swamped 4 major industrial estates in the province causing a complete halt of operations, Ayutthaya governor Wittaya Piewphong revealed that he has instructed related units under the Ministry of Labor to urgently come up with a plan to help workers.

He said that all of the factories in these estates were expecting to shut down and more than 300,000 workers would be jobless.

Therefore, an assistance plan focusing on an occupational training and a temporary employment in the labor market will be laid out.

The four industrial estates namely Rojana, Hi-Tech, Saha Rattana Nakorn and Bang Pa-In Industrial Estates, have completely been devastated by flood.

They have a combined investment value of about 194 Billion THB.

-- NNT 2011-10-16

[nikster]

The previous government was incompetent and did nothing. The current government is incompetent and does nothing. Same difference. I don't think the people on the ground need to be concerned about which of the elites is currently in power - and that's the only difference between the democrats and the reds.

Thailand needs a nationwide high capacity drainage system. Eventually it will happen but as to when is anyone's guess. This isn't easy to do anywhere...

[Buchholz]

Thailand flood warnings may be scaring away tourists

Thai Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra spent Sunday visiting a boat operation in Bangkok aimed at helping to prevent the flooding from overtaking the capital. More than 1,000 vessels were out on the river with their engines turned on trying to propel the water into the Gulf of Thailand.

The premier says she is confident that central Thailand will not be affected.

Continues:

http://www.euronews.net/2011/10/16/thailand-flood-warnings-may-be-scaring-away-tourists/

Euro News / October 16, 2011

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[metisdead]

An off topic bickering session has been removed.

Edit to add: More off topic nitpicking posts have been removed.

[BuckarooBanzai]

The previous government was incompetent and did nothing. The current government is incompetent and does nothing. Same difference. I don't think the people on the ground need to be concerned about which of the elites is currently in power - and that's the only difference between the democrats and the reds.

Thailand needs a nationwide high capacity drainage system. Eventually it will happen but as to when is anyone's guess. This isn't easy to do anywhere...

A flood bypass canal of 120 km or so would carry flood waters to the bay in about half the distance (straight line and not meandering) and about twice the speed (or faster - laminar flow vs. chaotic/turbulent flow. All in all about four times faster then depending on the river for the drainage.

Every 7 years or so Thailand pays out billions in disaster flood relief and cleanup and has been doing so throughout modern history.

The land utilized for the majority of the canal, which would remain dry during non-flood periods, could be used for crops and grazing.

Probably would be cheap at twice the price.

Edited October 17, 2011 by BuckarooBanzai

[Buchholz]

200,000 flee flood

Workers fled a huge industrial estate in Thailand as floodwater poured through its defences today.

Up to 200,000 people work in 250 factories in the Navanakorn complex, 30 miles from Bangkok. The national death toll in the floods rose to 307.

Continues:

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23999059-200000-flee-flood.do

London Evening Standard - 17 Oct 2011

[TAWP]

Hours after someone claimed the worst was over...

[Buchholz]

Hours after someone claimed the worst was over...

Agriculture Minister Theera Wongsamut

[Buchholz]

200,000 flee flood

Up to 200,000 people work in 250 factories in the Navanakorn complex, 30 miles from Bangkok.

The national death toll in the floods rose to 307.

This afternoon, the Disaster Prevention and Mitigation Department reported that floods still impact 21 provinces including Bangkok affecting 5,162,319 people.

The national death toll in the floods rose to 666.

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Edited December 1, 2011 by Buchholz

[Buchholz]

This afternoon, the Disaster Prevention and Mitigation Department reported that floods still impact 21 provinces including Bangkok affecting 5,162,319 people.

The national death toll in the floods rose to 666.

Today, the flood death toll was announced at 693 confirmed dead. The floods still affect 82 districts of 10 provinces, including Bangkok, affecting, 4,407,192 people.

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[philw]

This afternoon, the Disaster Prevention and Mitigation Department reported that floods still impact 21 provinces including Bangkok affecting 5,162,319 people.

The national death toll in the floods rose to 666.

Today, the flood death toll was announced at 693 confirmed dead. The floods still affect 82 districts of 10 provinces, including Bangkok, affecting, 4,407,192 people.

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Good of you to rejunate this 2 month old thread and kindly draw attention to the Prime Minister"s success in keeping fatalities to a minimum.

Could have been a lot worse.

Not much different from a Songkran weekend, eh ???

[whybother]

Good of you to rejunate this 2 month old thread and kindly draw attention to the Prime Minister"s success in keeping fatalities to a minimum.

Could have been a lot worse.

Not much different from a Songkran weekend, eh ???

I'm wondering why the death toll is still rising. It seems that 10-20 people have been dying per day even though according to Yingluck, "the flood situation is improving".

[animatic]

Associate Professor Adis Israngkura, of the Thailand Development Research Institute, said the government failed to gain the cooperation of all involved parties while dealing with the flood crisis.

"Thailand's flood problem was not caused by natural disaster but by the failure of government management," he said.

"If the government still blames just heavy rain, bad weather or even global warming, it will never know what are the real causes of flood crises," he added.

1st line is clear :

They tried to do it themselves till they had no choice but to involve the army,

and still tried to keep the Dems at arms length.

Line 2 :

We heard from the horses mouth that a Coalition Partners Appointed Minister,

over-rode the existing flood control system and told them to

not release sufficient water to deal with the rainfall.

Last line :

Is on the mark they don't want to find the real reason they lost control.

Because then heads would have to roll, and how can say how far up.

[animatic]

This afternoon, the Disaster Prevention and Mitigation Department reported that floods still impact 21 provinces including Bangkok affecting 5,162,319 people.

The national death toll in the floods rose to 666.

Today, the flood death toll was announced at 693 confirmed dead. The floods still affect 82 districts of 10 provinces, including Bangkok, affecting, 4,407,192 people.

.

Good of you to rejunate this 2 month old thread and kindly draw attention to the Prime Minister"s success in keeping fatalities to a minimum.

Could have been a lot worse.

Not much different from a Songkran weekend, eh ???

Close to 700 hundred dead is your idea of 'a minimum'?

[philw]

Good of you to rejunate this 2 month old thread and kindly draw attention to the Prime Minister"s success in keeping fatalities to a minimum.

Could have been a lot worse.

Not much different from a Songkran weekend, eh ???

I'm wondering why the death toll is still rising. It seems that 10-20 people have been dying per day even though according to Yingluck, "the flood situation is improving".

Must be her fault.

Could be the electrics or the weather though.

No, can't be that, natural causes or preventable events, must be the Governments fault.

Are you a socialist ???

Holding the Gov't to account for all things ?

Sounds like it.

[philw]

This afternoon, the Disaster Prevention and Mitigation Department reported that floods still impact 21 provinces including Bangkok affecting 5,162,319 people.

The national death toll in the floods rose to 666.

Today, the flood death toll was announced at 693 confirmed dead. The floods still affect 82 districts of 10 provinces, including Bangkok, affecting, 4,407,192 people.

.

Good of you to rejunate this 2 month old thread and kindly draw attention to the Prime Minister"s success in keeping fatalities to a minimum.

Could have been a lot worse.

Not much different from a Songkran weekend, eh ???

Close to 700 hundred dead is your idea of 'a minimum'?

Songkran ?????

Chok dii pi mai, krap.

[metisdead]

Off topic posts have been removed.

[Buchholz]

Associate Professor Adis Israngkura, of the Thailand Development Research Institute, said the government failed to gain the cooperation of all involved parties while dealing with the flood crisis.

"Thailand's flood problem was not caused by natural disaster but by the failure of government management," he said.

"If the government still blames just heavy rain, bad weather or even global warming, it will never know what are the real causes of flood crises," he added.

1st line is clear :

They tried to do it themselves till they had no choice but to involve the army,

and still tried to keep the Dems at arms length.

Line 2 :

We heard from the horses mouth that a Coalition Partners Appointed Minister,

over-rode the existing flood control system and told them to

not release sufficient water to deal with the rainfall.

Last line :

Is on the mark they don't want to find the real reason they lost control.

Because then heads would have to roll, and how can say how far up.

As we see over the last few posts, the Yingluck Defender will continue to harp upon it's a natural calamity, none of it was stoppable, the government did the best possible job, nearly a 1,000 dead was entirely and completely unavoidable and the government bears no responsibility for any of its decisions which had absolutely no bearing on the consequences of the flooding anyway.

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[Buchholz]

This afternoon, the Disaster Prevention and Mitigation Department reported that floods still impact 21 provinces including Bangkok affecting 5,162,319 people.

The national death toll in the floods rose to 666.

Today, the flood death toll was announced at 693 confirmed dead. The floods still affect 82 districts of 10 provinces, including Bangkok, affecting, 4,407,192 people.

Good of you to rejunate this 2 month old thread and kindly draw attention to the Prime Minister"s success in keeping fatalities to a minimum.

Could have been a lot worse.

Not much different from a Songkran weekend, eh ???

Close to 700 hundred dead is your idea of 'a minimum'?

The death toll from months of severe flooding across Thailand has reached at least 740, the country's Disaster Prevention and Mitigation Department reported on Friday.

About 3,652 villages in 80 districts of nine provinces in the upper part of the country are still suffering from the flooding

[rixalex]

Are you a socialist ???

Holding the Gov't to account for all things ?

Sounds like it.

Seem to recall, under the Abhisit administration, you yourself taking this very position. Now the shoe is on the other foot, how quickly your position has changed.