UN Chief Uses Thai Floods To Press For Movement On Climate Change

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UN chief uses Thai floods to press for movement on climate change

Bangkok - United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon on Wednesday used Thailand's current flood crisis to press world leaders to commit to climate change initiatives at an upcoming conference in South Africa.

"I am urging the leaders to address these matters with a sense of urgency," Ban said after meeting with Thai Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra, whose government has been struggling to contain the country’s worst floods in five decades.

"We do not have any time to waste," Ban said before visiting a centre for flood victims in Bangkok.

The UN chief urged world leaders to clarify a new Kyoto Protocol at the climate conference starting November 28 in Durban.

He also urged member states to "make clear guidelines and deliver on what has been pledged in Copenhagen in 2009, that is 30 billion dollars by the end of 2012 for developing countries in their efforts to adjust to climate change," Ban said.

Unusually heavy monsoon rains triggered floods that claimed 564 lives over the past three months in Thailand, which has made no appeal for emergency assistance from the international community, including the UN, which has offered its help.

Yingluck said it was not yet the time to request foreign aid.

"Before we ask for assistance from others, we need to diagnose the problems," she said.

-- The Nation 2011-11-16

[RickBradford]

He's whistling, but the dog's out of range.

Among the countries which have already said they will not participate in any binding agreements are China, Russia and the US.

[DaiHard]

Translation: Press for movement = extract more taxes to pay for UN apparatchiks

You don't actually think that this money would go to prepare for climate change do you?

[givenall]

Posted Today, 18:14

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UN chief uses Thai floods to press for movement on climate change

Bangkok - United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon on Wednesday used Thailand's current flood crisis to press world leaders to commit to climate change initiatives at an upcoming conference in South Africa.

"I am urging the leaders to address these matters with a sense of urgency," Ban said after meeting with Thai Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra, whose government has been struggling to contain the country's worst floods in five decades

I think one think is missing from this article is that although the bad weather contributed to the Flood Problem, the government is more at fault for doing everything wrong. So if I was aware of flood situation, then I would not use this event for pushing the climate changeagenda

Edited November 16, 2011 by givenall

[Gonsalviz]

Ban Ki Moon is a nit wit.

[Gonsalviz]

Posted Today, 18:14

FLOOD

UN chief uses Thai floods to press for movement on climate change

Bangkok - United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon on Wednesday used Thailand's current flood crisis to press world leaders to commit to climate change initiatives at an upcoming conference in South Africa.

"I am urging the leaders to address these matters with a sense of urgency," Ban said after meeting with Thai Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra, whose government has been struggling to contain the country's worst floods in five decades

I think one think is missing from this article is that although the bad weather contributed to the Flood Problem, the government is more at fault for doing everything wrong. So if I was aware of flood situation, then I would not use this event for pushing the climate changeagenda

Raping the land has a lot to do with it. Not to mention keeping reservoirs full until rainy season might have a little to do with it.

[RickBradford]

Warning: Post is for skeptics only -- climate alarmists may find the content disturbing.

The hero who released the Climategate e-mails on 22 Nov 2009 has done it again with a huge new tranche of e-mails on this second anniversary.

They're hilarious -- whereas the 2009 set concentrated on the Leftist skullduggery used to promote the climate scare, the 2011 set takes us behind the scenes with the bungling scientists trying to disguise the fact that they know nothing.

There's so much good stuff to quote, I don't know where to begin.

<4369> [John] Cook: "I am afraid that Mike [Mann] is defending something that increasingly can not be defended. He is investing too much personal stuff in this and not letting the science move ahead."

<3373> Bradley: "I'm sure you agree–the [Mike] Mann/ [Phil] Jones GRL paper was truly pathetic and should never have been published. I don't want to be associated with that 2000 year 'reconstruction'."

<2733> Crowley: "Phil [Jones], thanks for your thoughts – guarantee there will be no dirty laundry in the open."

<1788> [Phil] Jones: "There shouldn't be someone else at UEA [university of East Anglia] with different views (from "recent extreme weather is due to global warming") – at least not a climatologist."

A good first take is at http://noconsensus.w...2-0/#more-12598

[RickBradford]

Can't edit the above post for some formatting reason.

For anyone interested, the full archive is here: http://files.sinwt.r...=25FOIA2011.zip

Some more gems:

<2440> Jones:"I've been told that IPCC* is above national FOI [Freedom of Information] Acts. One way to cover yourself and all those working in AR5** would be to delete all emails at the end of the process"

<1577> Jones: [FOI, temperature data] "Any work we have done in the past is done on the back of the research grants we get – and has to be well hidden. I've discussed this with the main funder (US Dept of Energy) in the past and they are happy about not releasing the original station data."

<0850> Barnett: [iPCC AR5 models] "clearly, some tuning or very good luck involved. I doubt the modeling world will be able to get away with this much longer"

<4443> Jones: "Basic problem is that all models are wrong – not got enough middle and low level clouds."

* IPCC: the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change

**AR5 refers to the next major UN climate report, due out in 2013/14

[TAWP]

Only the UN would be able to take a man-made flooding and proclaim that it is a sign of a man-made climate change.

Oh, I see what you did there...

[teatree]

Climategate 2.0 - excellent news. Great timing too with the climate conference coming up.

Bear in mind the people exposed in these emails are right at the very vangaurd of the U.N. climate 'science' and their findings are used to drive the agenda. They are not obscure little scientists who can be ignored.

The warmists seem to have gone very quiet in the face of this leak. I guess they are busy trying to rationalise the emails (as they did after the 1st climategate) and they'll be back soon.

[RickBradford]

The warmists seem to have gone very quiet in the face of this leak. I guess they are busy trying to rationalise the emails

If by 'rationalise', you mean 'sticking their fingers in their ears and shouting na-na-na-na', I would agree with you.

I particularly like this mail

Wilson: I thought I'd play around with some randomly generated time-series and see if I could 'reconstruct' northern hemisphere temperatures. [...] The reconstructions clearly show a 'hockey-stick' trend. I guess this is precisely the phenomenon that [steve] Macintyre has been going on about.

Priceless. From right inside the paddling pool, an admission that Mann's 'hockey-stick' is no better than a bunch of random numbers.