Jatuporn To Sue 154 Democrat MPs Over Censure Claims

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CENSURE DEBATE

Jatuporn to sue Democrats over censure claims

THE NATION

Pheu Thai MP and red-shirt leader Jatuporn Promphan said yesterday he would take legal action against the 154 Democrat MPs who supported the censure motion against Justice Minister Pracha Promnok that also accused Jatuporn of involvement in irregularities.

Jatuporn said he would file a complaint this week with the Crime Suppression Division against the Democrat MPs, including party and opposition leader Abhisit Vejjajiva, for allegedly filing false information and defamation.

He would also file a civil case but had not made up his mind about the amount of damages he would seek. The matter would be discussed with Pheu Thai's lawyers.

The outspoken politician claimed that Democrat MPs unfairly accused him during Sunday's censure debate.

"The Democrats were not well prepared for the censure debate. They made false allegations against me. I am not a Cabinet member but I was accused of corruption and embezzlement," Jatuporn said.

"This will be the first time that all the proponents of a no-confidence motion will be sued," he said.

During the debate, opposition MPs accused Jatuporn and other MPs from the ruling party of making personal and political gain from procurement of flood relief supplies and claiming credit for items donated or bought with taxpayers' money.

Pracha, as head of the government's Flood Relief Operation Centre, was the main target of the no-confidence debate. But he managed to survive the post-debate vote yesterday morning, receiving 273 votes of support, against 188 votes in favour of the motion.

Jatuporn said he bought the bottled water kept at the FROC and labelled as his, adding that he had a receipt for 722 packs of water. Democrat MP Sirichok Sopha suggested during the debate that Jatuporn made credit that he did not deserve.

Jatuporn also defended fugitive former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra against opposition MPs' accusation that he claimed credit for flood relief supplies donated by the public. He said Thaksin spent Bt7.48 million on more than 2,100 boats for flood victims. He said the former premier also bought rice and relief kits worth more than Bt2 million - and there were receipts for all the items bought.

When asked if Thaksin would also sue the opposition MPs, Jatuporn said there would be a discussion about the matter.

-- The Nation 2011-11-29

[jonclark]

Why is Thai politics so Juvenile

[Roadman]

That Jatuporn needs to even consider whether Thaksin would also be sueing shows just how corrupt this governemnt is. Hullo Jatuporn, Thaksin is a convicted criminal and has no association with the thai government...well yeah I believe in fairies too.

Edited November 29, 2011 by sbk
derogatory generalization removed

[ratcatcher]

Jatuporn : A Boy Named Sue. (Johnny Cash)

[whybother]

Jatuporn said he bought the bottled water kept at the FROC and labelled as his, adding that he had a receipt for 722 packs of water. Democrat MP Sirichok Sopha suggested during the debate that Jatuporn made credit that he did not deserve.

Isn't that what the debate is about? Accusations and denials?

Jatuporn was accused of misuse of FROC funds. He denied it and can provide evidence to support that. Next.

Of course, he should now be getting a bill for using FROC storage.

[udonguy]

it IS juvenile - but the Dems were the first to start the censure rubbish - if they 'rose above it' and behaved solidly and with 'tactical intelligence' they would gain public support back but they just don't 'get it'

[whybother]

it IS juvenile - but the Dems were the first to start the censure rubbish - if they 'rose above it' and behaved solidly and with 'tactical intelligence' they would gain public support back but they just don't 'get it'

"Censure rubbish" - yes, the opposition using political procedures in parliament to try and keep the government honest is a terrible use of democracy isn't it.

[Ricardo]

I am not a Cabinet member but I was accused of embezzlement and corruption

Interesting POV, that you need to be in the Cabinet, before you can steal properly, from the people ? Is that party-policy ?

But at least it's a change from the broken-record of 'They're planning a coup, I know who they are, a General-'S' and his friends, next week or last month, or sometime in the past year, just you wait and see, I have a (doctored or imaginary) video or tape !'.

but had not made up his mind about the amount of damages he would seek

I believe that a Billion Baht is the traditional sum ?

This will be the first time that all the proponents of a no-confidence motion will be sued

Another 'first' for Red-Democracy & Reconciliation, Yay !

[LuckyLew]

Does the Thai government ever do anything usefull?

They are great at sueing people, making false promises, pocketing tea money

but what good do they do for the citizens of Thailand who elected them?

[JUDAS]

Does Thailand not have Parliamentry Privilege?

Parliamentary privilege is the right of serving MPs and members of the House of Lords to legal immunity from prosecution for slander, contempt of court or breaching the Official Secrets Act.

It applies to speeches, questions or responses given during parliamentary proceedings in the House of Commons and the Lords. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/8122599/Parliamentary-privilege-a-guide.html

[ThaiOats]

it IS juvenile - but the Dems were the first to start the censure rubbish - if they 'rose above it' and behaved solidly and with 'tactical intelligence' they would gain public support back but they just don't 'get it'

Censure rubbish? Have you actually watched the censure debate and see what evidence was provided against Pracha? There's a difference in bringing out evidence in an OPEN debate instead of propaganda through politically motivated media. The Democrats had the courage to bring it to light and I'm sure they're aware that if any false information was given, they're liable to a lawsuit. See the difference between how the Democrats work and how PTP work? Instead of just making up stories and accusations (ie: PTP), the Democrats went out and did their homework, gathered pictures, figures, paperwork and after they presented their evidence, gave a reason to their no-confidence motion. No screaming, no shouting from the opposition except a few funny remarks from a certain lady whose name I cannot recall. They kept it civilized. Hardly juvenile. So where's Jatuporn documents and evidence about the certain coup that's going to happen or secret training in Iran?

[animatic]

File this under :

Who gives a duck.

[MunterHunter]

Does that mean the Democrats can sue the entire PTP party for the several failed Censure motions against them when they were in power? Everyone can keep suing everyone and still no one actually does anything to move the country forward.

Every single one of them who holds MP status should have it revoked, lets bring in a fresh set of politicians and see if they can do any better... idiots, the lot of them!

[sbk]

One derogatory generalization removed, please keep your bigotry to yourself, thanks as it adds nothing to a civil discussion.

And one distasteful comment removed. Bit early in the morning to have to deal with this already, don't you people think? Mind your manners and retain some civility, thanks.

[animatic]

Does the Thai government ever do anything usefull?

They are great at sueing people, making false promises, pocketing tea money

but what good do they do for the citizens of Thailand who elected them?

Well that IS their reason to exist, the people are just

the necessary tool to get them in office.

Edited November 29, 2011 by animatic

[Buchholz]

Does Thailand not have Parliamentry Privilege?

Parliamentary privilege is the right of serving MPs and members of the House of Lords to legal immunity from prosecution for slander, contempt of court or breaching the Official Secrets Act.

It applies to speeches, questions or responses given during parliamentary proceedings in the House of Commons and the Lords. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/8122599/Parliamentary-privilege-a-guide.html

Thailand does have Parliamentary Immunity.

It's why indicted Red Shirt Leader Jatuporn is not in jail now.

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Edited November 29, 2011 by Buchholz

[Buchholz]

Jatuporn said he bought the bottled water kept at the FROC and labelled as his, adding that he had a receipt for 722 packs of water. Democrat MP Sirichok Sopha suggested during the debate that Jatuporn made credit that he did not deserve.

Sirichok is reported to have said that Jatuporn claimed credit for over 2,000 packs of water.

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[sparebox2]

According to the law, you cannot sue any MP for the things he/she said in a censure debate.

[gohmer]

That Jatuporn needs to even consider whether Thaksin would also be sueing shows just how corrupt this governemnt is. Hullo Jatuporn, Thaksin is a convicted criminal and has no association with the thai government...well yeah I believe in fairies too.

All you anti Thaksin people...get a life. The sky is not caving in due to Thaksin. First, he was convicted by a junta due to a military coup who established an illegitimate government. How can an illegitimate gov't convict someone? Second, for you anti Thaksin (flame edited out), all of Thailand is corrupt. You keep kicking the same dead horse.

Edited November 29, 2011 by Scott
inflammatory remark edited out

[FrankieDimes]

Does the Thai government ever do anything usefull?

They are great at sueing people, making false promises, pocketing tea money

but what good do they do for the citizens of Thailand who elected them?

Didn't they give some of the flood victims 5000 baht?

[whybother]

That Jatuporn needs to even consider whether Thaksin would also be sueing shows just how corrupt this governemnt is. Hullo Jatuporn, Thaksin is a convicted criminal and has no association with the thai government...well yeah I believe in fairies too.

All you anti Thaksin people...get a life. The sky is not caving in due to Thaksin. First, he was convicted by a junta due to a military coup who established an illegitimate government. How can an illegitimate gov't convict someone? Second, for you anti Thaksin more-ons, all of Thailand is corrupt. You keep kicking the same dead horse.

I didn't realise the PPP government was illegitimate ... (except for the vote buying of course).

[Crushdepth]

According to the law, you cannot sue any MP for the things he/she said in a censure debate.

Facts and legalities never seem to bother Parliament's resident clown.

[Buchholz]

That Jatuporn needs to even consider whether Thaksin would also be sueing shows just how corrupt this governemnt is. Hullo Jatuporn, Thaksin is a convicted criminal and has no association with the thai government...well yeah I believe in fairies too.

All you anti Thaksin people...get a life. The sky is not caving in due to Thaksin. First, he was convicted by a junta due to a military coup who established an illegitimate government. How can an illegitimate gov't convict someone? Second, for you anti Thaksin more-ons, all of Thailand is corrupt. You keep kicking the same dead horse.

Thaksin was convicted by the Supreme Court.

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[Buchholz]

That Jatuporn needs to even consider whether Thaksin would also be sueing shows just how corrupt this governemnt is. Hullo Jatuporn, Thaksin is a convicted criminal and has no association with the thai government...well yeah I believe in fairies too.

All you anti Thaksin people...get a life. The sky is not caving in due to Thaksin. First, he was convicted by a junta due to a military coup who established an illegitimate government. How can an illegitimate gov't convict someone? Second, for you anti Thaksin more-ons, all of Thailand is corrupt. You keep kicking the same dead horse.

I didn't realise the PPP government was illegitimate ... (except for the vote buying of course).

well, it was the bastard stepchild of TRT

[anon467367354]

"I am not a Cabinet member but I was accused of corruption and embezzlement," Jatuporn said."

not a cabinet member but more of a terrorist. How can this guy not be charged with terrorism? I just don't understand that.

[anon467367354]

"I am not a Cabinet member but I was accused of corruption and embezzlement," Jatuporn said."

not a cabinet member but more of a terrorist. How can this guy not be charged with terrorism? I just don't understand that.

actually thinking about this, is Jatuporn saying he could not have been involved in corruption and embezzlement because he was not a cabinet member? or, This is normal for cabinet members, since "I" was not a cabinet member I couldn't have done this. or, Cabinet members are involved with corruption and embezzling, not the general public.

[Buchholz]

How can this guy not be charged with terrorism? I just don't understand that.

He has been charged with terrorism, along with a host of other charges.

Parliamentary immunity keeps him free from being jailed.

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[Buchholz]

"I am not a Cabinet member but I was accused of corruption and embezzlement," Jatuporn said."

not a cabinet member but more of a terrorist. How can this guy not be charged with terrorism? I just don't understand that.

actually thinking about this, is Jatuporn saying he could not have been involved in corruption and embezzlement because he was not a cabinet member? or, This is normal for cabinet members, since "I" was not a cabinet member I couldn't have done this. or, Cabinet members are involved with corruption and embezzling, not the general public.

Trying to figure out what Jatuporn is saying just leaves one with a headache.

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[billd766]

That Jatuporn needs to even consider whether Thaksin would also be sueing shows just how corrupt this governemnt is. Hullo Jatuporn, Thaksin is a convicted criminal and has no association with the thai government...well yeah I believe in fairies too.

All you anti Thaksin people...get a life. The sky is not caving in due to Thaksin. First, he was convicted by a junta due to a military coup who established an illegitimate government. How can an illegitimate gov't convict someone? Second, for you anti Thaksin more-ons, all of Thailand is corrupt. You keep kicking the same dead horse.

Actually Thaksin was convicted under the law which was valid whilst he was the PM

No he was not convicted by a junta due to a military coup who established an illegitimate government, he was actually convicted under a PPP led government led by his Brother in Law.

Please try to do a little research before you write things which are completely false.

Which government was illegitimate?

The 2 PPP ones, the Democrat one or the current one.

Please explain which one and why.

PS try using spell check more-ons as it should be spelt morons.

[slapout]

The flood waters are receding and natures low life's are coming out from their hiding places. Wonder where the mentioned receipts were issued or maybe he has credit card receipts, or bank transfer records?

Just to turn this clown and those like him, loose to make any statement to the press/public does indicate the mentality of the brain trust in charge of Thailand.