webfact Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Abhisit wants names of future 'VIP Prison' inmates THE NATION The opposition leader yesterday called on authorities to disclose the names of defendants in cases relating to last year's unrest who are to be moved to a renovated detention centre in Bangkok's Lak Si district dubbed the "VIP Prison" by critics. Abhisit Vejjajiva, who is leader of the Democrat Party, said that to prevent accusations of preferential treatment, the Corrections Department should make public the names of defendants to be moved and also explain the criteria by which they were chosen. "There have been no clear details about the criteria. We will scrutinise this matter and find out if there is preferential treatment. The names of prisoners to be moved to the new prison must be disclosed publicly so that we can determine whether there has been preferential treatment," Abhisit said. The opposition leader also called on Kanit na Nakorn, chairman of the Truth for Reconciliation Commission of Thailand (TRCT), to give a clear definition for deciding which defendants are "political prisoners" and which are not. He said this was to avoid the perception that the TRCT was supporting the government and becoming involved in the political conflict itself. Without a clear definition, TRCT's messages "risk being interpreted for political benefit", he said, adding that the panel must be careful about this. Kanit said yesterday that it was the government's duty to decide who should be moved to the new prison. He said he could not give a clear answer as to whether a man found guilty of firing rocket-propelled grenades into the Defence Ministry should be considered a political prisoner and therefore deserved to be moved to Lak Si prison. In a related development, Sanan Kachornprasart, chief adviser to Chart Thai Pattana Party, said yesterday that he did not think talks between ruling Pheu Thai Party and Democrat Party alone would achieve reconciliation. He called on all sides "to forgive and to subdue their anger". -- The Nation 2011-12-24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Well, who knows, depending on what they discover about the temple shootings he might be one of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boater Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 si is the new VIP prison like one in the UK ? , but with a casino and massage parlour in house? , might do well with prisoners who need to be xtridited here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Well, who knows, depending on what they discover about the temple shootings he might be one of them? He has been identified as "one of them" red-shirt terrorists and sentenced accordingly. What else is there to discover? Or are you saying he might be "one of them" criminals moved to a soft time prison because he was carrying out the orders of the current government? Do you consider firing an RPG at a revered temple a legitimate political statement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimay11 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Well, who knows, depending on what they discover about the temple shootings he might be one of them? He has been identified as "one of them" red-shirt terrorists and sentenced accordingly. What else is there to discover? Or are you saying he might be "one of them" criminals moved to a soft time prison because he was carrying out the orders of the current government? Do you consider firing an RPG at a revered temple a legitimate political statement? According to red democracy he was probably just making a political statement. After all burning down city halls qualifies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 An inappropriate post along with an associated reply have been removed from view. Apologies to the member with the reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanuman1 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 A perfectly legitimate request from Abhisit, entirely in line with his role as opposition leader. The government would do well to remember that lack of transparency has become an election-deciding issue and would do well to release the details in a timely manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorG Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 In a democracy there should be no such thing as a political prisoner. You are either a convicted criminal, or you are not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparebox2 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 In a democracy there should be no such thing as a political prisoner. You are either a convicted criminal, or you are not. Officially ther are no political prisoner, even in Myanmar. However, the truth is there are lots of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJohnnyBKK Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Well, who knows, depending on what they discover about the temple shootings he might be one of them? He has been identified as "one of them" red-shirt terrorists and sentenced accordingly. What else is there to discover? Or are you saying he might be "one of them" criminals moved to a soft time prison because he was carrying out the orders of the current government? Do you consider firing an RPG at a revered temple a legitimate political statement? I believe he meant that Abhisit may be joining them in the VIP prison for his alleged role in the killings. A perfectly legitimate request from Abhisit, entirely in line with his role as opposition leader. The government would do well to remember that lack of transparency has become an election-deciding issue and would do well to release the details in a timely manner. "election-deciding issue"? what planet are you from? Nobody with any real power has any illusions that such a naive idealistic idea has any place in Thai politics, including the Thai masses (not that they have any real power) > In a democracy there should be no such thing as a political prisoner. You are either a convicted criminal, or you are not. Yes that's true in a democracy. Please stay on topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanuman1 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Well, who knows, depending on what they discover about the temple shootings he might be one of them? He has been identified as "one of them" red-shirt terrorists and sentenced accordingly. What else is there to discover? Or are you saying he might be "one of them" criminals moved to a soft time prison because he was carrying out the orders of the current government? Do you consider firing an RPG at a revered temple a legitimate political statement? I believe he meant that Abhisit may be joining them in the VIP prison for his alleged role in the killings. A perfectly legitimate request from Abhisit, entirely in line with his role as opposition leader. The government would do well to remember that lack of transparency has become an election-deciding issue and would do well to release the details in a timely manner. "election-deciding issue"? what planet are you from? Nobody with any real power has any illusions that such a naive idealistic idea has any place in Thai politics, including the Thai masses (not that they have any real power) > In a democracy there should be no such thing as a political prisoner. You are either a convicted criminal, or you are not. Yes that's true in a democracy. Please stay on topic. Happy Christmas!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renaissanc Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Chalerm - Just send Thaksin to jail and peace will break out all over Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 In a democracy there should be no such thing as a political prisoner. You are either a convicted criminal, or you are not. Almost every country has such..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker69 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Chalerm - Just send Thaksin to jail and peace will break out all over Thailand. He can´t send is boss in prison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlansford Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Well, who knows, depending on what they discover about the temple shootings he might be one of them? oh, you were fast out of the starting blocks ! Online reservations at www.vipprison.co.th He can book the ex-PM suite, but had better hurry, I hear it is in demand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlansford Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 -snip- He has been identified as "one of them" red-shirt terrorists and sentenced accordingly. What else is there to discover? Or are you saying he might be "one of them" criminals moved to a soft time prison because he was carrying out the orders of the current government? Do you consider firing an RPG at a revered temple a legitimate political statement? I believe he meant that Abhisit may be joining them in the VIP prison for his alleged role in the killings. A perfectly legitimate request from Abhisit, entirely in line with his role as opposition leader. The government would do well to remember that lack of transparency has become an election-deciding issue and would do well to release the details in a timely manner. "election-deciding issue"? what planet are you from? Nobody with any real power has any illusions that such a naive idealistic idea has any place in Thai politics, including the Thai masses (not that they have any real power) > In a democracy there should be no such thing as a political prisoner. You are either a convicted criminal, or you are not. Yes that's true in a democracy. Please stay on topic. Happy Christmas!!!!! not to be repetitive, but "what planet are you from?" ... Everyone knows that it is Merry Christmas except in Harry Potter movies. Happy Holidays ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendejo Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Let's call it Club Shin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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