wana Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 my friends 2 month old CBR has just been in a accident ,he is road rashed in hosptal but he wil be fine aparently he came in to a corner too fast and a car ddnt leave him enough room it basically needs new everything from what i can remember gas tank is caved in on one side exhaust is caved in on the other handle bar is bent to the right when wheel is pointing forward bar end weight missing from one side windshield is severed in half clutch lever is mangled in a U turn brake and gear shifters are bent into the bike (still working though ) seat /number plate, back mudguard are warped /twisted to the side and cannot be straightened with hand strength all the fairings and plastics are destroyed from the tumble so they will all need replacing deep scratches on the passenger handes at the back mirror arms are snapped off and mirrors are also gone obviously engine is perfect with 2046km on the clock ,gear box is perfect ,front and back shocks seem undamaged and the bike is driving well , all electrics are working ,i collected it from the crash site and drove it 40- 50 km ,no fluids or oil are leaking the insurance is 3rd party + theft but it doesnt include crash damages so im wondering if anyone could guess what price everything above costs from honda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
submaniac Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Long story short, if you buy the new parts from Honda individually, it will cost more than just buying a new bike. If it needs that much repair you are better off buying another bike. If everything else is trashed, at least the green book has its own value. I would be tempted to keep the book on the thing (that definitely has value) import a large cc CBR in parts and recycle the frame number onto a new frame. You would have to import the engine separately and pay duties and taxes on it, so you could have the engine swap registered on the green book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSJ Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Long story short, if you buy the new parts from Honda individually, it will cost more than just buying a new bike. If it needs that much repair you are better off buying another bike. If everything else is trashed, at least the green book has its own value. I would be tempted to keep the book on the thing (that definitely has value) import a large cc CBR in parts and recycle the frame number onto a new frame. You would have to import the engine separately and pay duties and taxes on it, so you could have the engine swap registered on the green book. So, your suggesting he breaks the law as a solution to his quandary. That's a naughty thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
submaniac Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 I don't think it is technically breaking the law. If you cut off the neck which has the VIN's on it and reweld it to another frame, that technically would be legal. The point is, the CBR250 was legally imported. It is not illegal to customize a motorcycle. There's nothing illegal about installing a larger cc engine in a motorcycle that is otherwise legal in the country. There is nothing about modifying the frame of a legally imported motorcycle to fit a larger displacement engine. It's like if you had a phantom, and customized the frame so it could fit a harley V-Twin would that be illegal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 so im wondering if anyone could guess what price everything above costs from honda The only way to know for sure is to go to a Honda dealer with a list and price everything or take it in and ask for how much to fix. It all sounds pretty superficial, with the exception of the tank and exhaust. Aftermarket exhaust may be cheaper than OEM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishenough Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 A friend did a gentler low side, compared to your friends rash, on his new 250 and he replaced: the gas tank, upper and lower side fairing pieces, one bar end, mirror only, clutch lever, rear turn signal, and metal exhaust cover. It was under 3000 baht NOT including the gas tank as it was not in stock, which I think cost approx another 3000 plus baht. Thought that was cheap; as both the domestic Kawasaki and Honda parts are here. Would be shocked if all that was over 30,000 baht. Thou any excuse for a hot legal bike is kewl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Difficult to say without seeing it, but if the frame is straight then I would replace/repair the rest of it. He won't get much selling it for spares and it will be a lot of hassle. I'd treat it as an opportunity to get a decent exhaust and some aftermarket parts to replace what he's broken. If he wants to save cash he might be able to get a lot of it (tank, fairings etc) repaired quite cheaply depending on the extent of the damage. Not sure about the price of Honda spares but the Kawasaki spares are incredibly cheap and it would be worth repairing the bike. If the frame is bent then I'd probably forget it and sell for spares. Glad to hear he didn't hurt himself more seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRS1 Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 picture ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagling Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 I might want to bay it, how much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hehehoho Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Things like stock mirrors and exhaust pipe would be expensive. After market ones would be cheaper. I'd take it to Honda, get a quote for everything needed, then see what pieces you can get aftermarket. The muffler itself is about 10k I believe... Should be able to knock a good few thousand off the total cost by only buying what isn't available outside Honda. Fairings will probably run to 10k, tank 3k, aftermarket levers and handlebars from Bikers, get rearsets for 3,500 rather than stock, instead of buying all the rear plastic maybe go for one of the Thai made rear ends from Tyga or K.Win. Maybe turn it into a streetfighter? But with a full racing rearend from Tyga, a local made pipe, and Biker's bars, levers and rearsets. Aftermarket mirrors go for 600b. There's a lot of opportunity there for him to have a really cool, different bike, as opposed to throwing in the towel and taking a massive loss by selling it as scrap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wana Posted January 30, 2012 Author Share Posted January 30, 2012 sorry ,dont have pictures because it was dark its in the honda dealer now ,they dont know yet the price but theyre going to call us with a list and prices and we can tel them what to replace if its getting total new body anyway i would paint it in lamborghini yellow or something mad custom paint job to make it look coool instead of just another cbr 250 are replacement body parts painted at the factory or is there an option to chose the colour ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hehehoho Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 (edited) I'm telling ya, do the frame in Ducati red, spend the money on USD forks instead of faring, black tank, black fiberglass racing rear, Biker's levers and rear sets and you're good to go. Edited January 30, 2012 by hehehoho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mic6ard Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Ouch, seems like a long list. However the most important thing is the frame, how is it? Still straight? I would trash it if the frame is cracked or bent, just don't trust it. The other stuff are (as others have stated) an opportunity to customise. I wish you got a photo of it, cos from what you are saying it's pretty messed up, but yet you rode it 40-50km??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wana Posted January 30, 2012 Author Share Posted January 30, 2012 all the bodywork is cracked and battered but the running gear is fine i didnt go faster than 70-80 on it but it runs as smooth as any Cbr 250R i have been on dont forget , its a honda some great options to bling it up a bit though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBikeBKK Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 all the bodywork is cracked and battered but the running gear is fine i didnt go faster than 70-80 on it but it runs as smooth as any Cbr 250R i have been on dont forget , its a honda some great options to bling it up a bit though You can dress up a pig, but it's still a pig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicbr Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 i would be surprised if came to more than 20,000b. Tell your friend to get 1st class insurance. it's not like it's expensive for the Cbr250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRS1 Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 I'd check the paint on the welds, if its lifting or peeling that aint good. Really surprised the forks didn't get bent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBikeBKK Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Really surprised the forks didn't get bent. Do you really think Wana would know if they are??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hehehoho Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 ^ *sigh* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBikeBKK Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 ^ *sigh* Ok genius- how can you tell if your forks are damaged just from eyeballing them and riding the bike 40-50km? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hehehoho Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 (edited) It was your personal put-down that was tiring. We get that you don't like the bike, do you really have to come into a thread specifically asking about it and add nothing but two things: A nasty put down on the bike: 'You can dress up a pig, but it's still a pig ' And a nasty put down on a poster that was asking for advice: 'Do you really think Wana would know if they are??? ' . We understand that the Kawa's 250 humiliation in the racing series, and inferiority hurts, but give it a rest and get over it mate. Edited January 30, 2012 by hehehoho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttakata Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Like the idea of a streetfighter too or make your own standard bike.Just forget the main fairings and get a round headlight. It might end up pretty cool. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hehehoho Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Streetfighter, and use the rear faring put on this CBR150: USD forks. Source a front headlight. Aftermarket rearsets and levers. dam_n, I'd almost buy it off him now as a project bike. Maybe even put some Er-6n farings on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBikeBKK Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Streetfighter, and use the rear faring put on this CBR150: USD forks. Source a front headlight. Aftermarket rearsets and levers. dam_n, I'd almost buy it off him now as a project bike. Maybe even put some Er-6n farings on. OMG, I thought the faired version was ugly, but this hack job takes the cake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBikeBKK Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Mind you there are some shops that have done decent looking conversions of the CB'r' 250. I'd take one of these over the faired version any day- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hehehoho Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 (edited) The x-speed one is hanging out for some different forks and an aftermarket pipe. The CBR250R does make a great little streetfighter though in fairness. I'd also put on a different rear which would also likely be half the price than all the stock pieces. Edited January 31, 2012 by hehehoho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wana Posted January 31, 2012 Author Share Posted January 31, 2012 Very Surprisingly Inexpensive Honda can make it shiny again for 9500 including replacing all plastic fairings ,mirrors ,windscreen etc everything else damaged can be repaired /hammered back into shape in house, wonderful thailand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wana Posted January 31, 2012 Author Share Posted January 31, 2012 The x-speed one is hanging out for some different forks and an aftermarket pipe. The CBR250R does make a great little streetfighter though in fairness. I'd also put on a different rear which would also likely be half the price than all the stock pieces. how much is the rear from something like a cbr 400 or 600 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Very Surprisingly Inexpensive Honda can make it shiny again for 9500 including replacing all plastic fairings ,mirrors ,windscreen etc everything else damaged can be repaired /hammered back into shape in house, wonderful thailand A happy story in a world full of sad ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wana Posted January 31, 2012 Author Share Posted January 31, 2012 i would still love to make a naked bike out of it but going back to stock for 9500 is a cheap door out of the situation painting the frame,wheels ,radiator etc ,getting a round light ,USD forks and a pipe , bar end mirrors and making it all look decent would probably be abit more hassle and expense + a stock bike is easy to sell on a custom street figher might not be everybodys taste Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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