midas Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 After reading about the extent of the cover-up and just how dangerous the rod removal procedure is the question I keep asking myself now is how will the world know if there is some kind of accident over the next 12 months that involves criticality? The physical damage to the reactors was impossible for them to hide from the world but radioactive gases are invisible - so how would anyone know if something goes wrong as they try to remove these rods but keep it covered up from the world even temporarily? And don't forget they are relying on no earthquakes whatsoever (not even minor tremors) for a period of 12 months when there is constant seismic activity occurring The US will have real-time monitoring of alpha and beta particles, gamma sources and the signature isotopes of Fukushima contamination. It's is likely the US Navy has been doing this from Day Two. But only my opinion, needs confirmation. The government may have those data, some experts will have some data but the public will see phony data so they get not disturbed while they watch a game of baseball. Until now the public is never correct informed. But over 40 years you will know what happen today. case in point http://www.theaustralian.com.au/media/japanese-press-baulks-at-push-for-fascist-secrecy-laws/story-e6frg996-1226767298077# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJP Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 After reading about the extent of the cover-up and just how dangerous the rod removal procedure is the question I keep asking myself now is how will the world know if there is some kind of accident over the next 12 months that involves criticality? The physical damage to the reactors was impossible for them to hide from the world but radioactive gases are invisible - so how would anyone know if something goes wrong as they try to remove these rods but keep it covered up from the world even temporarily? And don't forget they are relying on no earthquakes whatsoever (not even minor tremors) for a period of 12 months when there is constant seismic activity occurring The US will have real-time monitoring of alpha and beta particles, gamma sources and the signature isotopes of Fukushima contamination. It's is likely the US Navy has been doing this from Day Two. But only my opinion, needs confirmation. The government may have those data, some experts will have some data but the public will see phony data so they get not disturbed while they watch a game of baseball. Until now the public is never correct informed. But over 40 years you will know what happen today. case in point http://www.theaustralian.com.au/media/japanese-press-baulks-at-push-for-fascist-secrecy-laws/story-e6frg996-1226767298077# It's the same as admitting they're lost control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midas Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 The US will have real-time monitoring of alpha and beta particles, gamma sources and the signature isotopes of Fukushima contamination. It's is likely the US Navy has been doing this from Day Two. But only my opinion, needs confirmation. The government may have those data, some experts will have some data but the public will see phony data so they get not disturbed while they watch a game of baseball. Until now the public is never correct informed. But over 40 years you will know what happen today. case in point http://www.theaustralian.com.au/media/japanese-press-baulks-at-push-for-fascist-secrecy-laws/story-e6frg996-1226767298077# It's the same as admitting they're lost control. It certainly helps explain why they have never bothered to get outside help in the end. How long will the Japanese people keep accepting this? They should be asking the same question that Judge Andrew Napolitano keeps hammering away at to the American people–“ do we work for the government or does the government work for us ” ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaacorp Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 transfer it to the disputed islands, 2 problems solved . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike8677 Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 It is grtting crazy over there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 This is being reported on CNN: http://edition.cnn.com/2013/12/04/world/asia/japan-fukushima-tepco-coren/index.html?hpt=ias_c2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midas Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 TEPCO are still not bringing in outside hands-on practical help other than a panel of “international advisers “ including Lady Barbara Judge, former head of the UK Atomic Energy Authority . With all due respect to Lady Barbara they need a Red Adair type character, not a panel of “international advisers “ http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2013/dec/03/fukushima-daiichi-tsunami-nuclear-cleanup-japan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midas Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Highest ( ever ) radiation levels measured outside reactor Tokyo Electric Power Company says radiation levels are extremely high in an area near a ventilation pipe at the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant.TEPCO found radiation of 25 sieverts an hour on a duct, which connects reactor buildings and the 120-meter-tall ventilation pipe.The estimated radiation level is the highest ever detected outside reactor buildings. People exposed to this level of radiation would die within 20 minutes. http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/english/news/20131207_01.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midas Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 what really matters is human health. [...] The national government and the village mayor insist now as ever that they will decontaminate the village, that they will enable us to go home [...] But why, when human life and health should be the top priority, should that be reason to choose return, return to the village, as a higher priority than the people’s health, our children’s health, our grandchildren’s health? – That is something I cannot fathom. For my part I have actually started to think that we are being used as the world’s first human guinea-pigs, in an experiment [...] We will never forgive those responsible – the national government, the Tokyo Electric Power Company, and those who helped make this happen! http://japanfocus.org/-Shoji-Masahiko/4046?utm_source=December+9%2C+2013&utm_campaign=China%27s+Connectivity+Revolution&utm_medium=email Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midas Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 (edited) If what this guy is saying is true, surely any Olympic athlete would have to be out of his/her mind to want to attend the 2020 games? Edited December 17, 2013 by midas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loptr Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 In the mean time, the Japanese government has found a way to impede investigative journalist from inquiring into the status at Fukushima. http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/1d7e6088-5feb-11e3-b360-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2nhIXcavV Japan passes controversial secrecy lawJapan has approved a controversial official secrets law that prime minister Shinzo Abe says is crucial to strengthening national defence but which was bitterly opposed by journalists, academics and many ordinary Japanese.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midas Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 (edited) IAEA ***NOT for distribution***: Molten core is suspected to have penetrated Fukushima containment vessel — Prime Minister on 3/11: We couldn’t be in Tokyo if melted fuel went through containment vessel (VIDEO) Edited December 19, 2013 by midas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 The Problem with nuclear energy is not a technological one but a political one The technology to produce electricity safely from nuclear power has existed since the 60's but for political reasons it has not be used Thorium LFTR reactor Thorium is as plentiful as dirt, and Thorium reactors are perfectly safe because the default condition for them is Off, it takes a small amount of power to keep the reactor running, in the occasion of an accident the system shuts it's self off automatically Thorium produces very little waste and the waste has a half life of 100 years Thorium research was terminated in the 60's do to the cold war,because Thorium based reactors do not produce plutonium needed for atomic weapons,The US government opted to go with the Fast Breeder uranium based technology the produced Plutonium 239 as a byproduct that can be used in nuclear weapons. [/media] [/media] Now they have invested too much in the fast breeder technology and are locked in it. India is building a Thorium based reactor and China is planing one also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midas Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 (edited) Another clear warning to future international Olympic athletes who intend to prepare for the 2020 games not to trust assurances given by anyone 49 U.S. Navy members who served aboard the Reagan and sister ship the USS Essex now trace illnesses including thyroid and testicular cancers, leukemia and brain tumors to the time spent aboard the massive ship, whose desalination system pulled in seawater that was used for drinking, cooking and bathing. In a lawsuit filed against Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO), the plaintiffs claim the power company delayed telling the U.S. Navy the tsunami had caused a nuclear meltdown, sending huge amounts of contaminated water into the sea and, ultimately, into the ship's water system. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/12/20/sickened-by-service-more-us-sailors-claim-cancer-from-helping-at-fukushima/ Edited December 22, 2013 by midas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 As for tsunamis, there's a story that some elephants, which were tethered near the coast just prior to the big Andaman tsunami, headed for higher ground, minutes before the surging waves hit the shore. Elephants can hear low vibrations. Elephants can't "hear" vibrations, they feel them through their feet; what I heard is that somewhere in the Laguna area, they were off and running soon after the quake itself. But in Japan, how could this help? From the time the quake was reported, there were incessant tsunami warnings broadcast across Japan, so they had about as much warning as they could have been given. How long would it have taken to actually shut down the reactor, and would the outcome of the damage then been different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midas Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 (edited) A really interesting slide show illustrating the effects of how the radioactive plume is affecting the Alaskan coast Previously unpublished 2012 map of Fukushima plume from gov’t scientists: Shows Alaska coast already being impacted — “Radioactivity will almost entirely shift to eastern Pacific” — Rhodes Scholar: No one can imagine what effects radiation flowing into ocean will have on sea life, ‘other things’ https://www.pices.int/publications/presentations/PICES-2013/2013-MEQ/MEQ-1700-Smith.pdf Edited December 24, 2013 by midas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SjaakNL2013 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 In days like this, Merry X Mass & Happy 2014 everybody, it's good to read some stories that make their way to the forum members here. In the New York Post a article about what happen with the crew from the USS Ronald Reagan. Here is the link so you can read it yourself.. If you read it carefully then you see the disaster that got triggered by the Japanese Government and TEPCO. Also read in a report from a fishery agency that tuna catch for the coast by California now have 300 till 400 times the level of Iodine 31 in them. This will spread all kind of cancers on populations who have fish high on the eating habits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJP Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 (edited) In days like this, Merry X Mass & Happy 2014 everybody, it's good to read some stories that make their way to the forum members here. In the New York Post a article about what happen with the crew from the USS Ronald Reagan. Here is the link so you can read it yourself.. If you read it carefully then you see the disaster that got triggered by the Japanese Government and TEPCO. Also read in a report from a fishery agency that tuna catch for the coast by California now have 300 till 400 times the level of Iodine 31 in them. This will spread all kind of cancers on populations who have fish high on the eating habits. The Fukushima disaster is so massive that the whole World seems to have stuck its collective head in the sand hoping it will just blow over. This should be front and centre all day everyday. But no. It's odd. Peculiar. EDIT: For anyone even vaguely interested, SjaakNL's link is definitely worth reading. Edited December 29, 2013 by MJP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midas Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 In days like this, Merry X Mass & Happy 2014 everybody, it's good to read some stories that make their way to the forum members here. In the New York Post a article about what happen with the crew from the USS Ronald Reagan. Here is the link so you can read it yourself.. If you read it carefully then you see the disaster that got triggered by the Japanese Government and TEPCO. Also read in a report from a fishery agency that tuna catch for the coast by California now have 300 till 400 times the level of Iodine 31 in them. This will spread all kind of cancers on populations who have fish high on the eating habits. The Fukushima disaster is so massive that the whole World seems to have stuck its collective head in the sand hoping it will just blow over. This should be front and centre all day everyday. But no. It's odd. Peculiar. EDIT: For anyone even vaguely interested, SjaakNL's link is definitely worth reading. I no longer think it is peculiar MJP. It's just the most enormous and criminal cover up imaginable. More peopl e should be extremely angry with the Japanese government particularly those who have children. What is peculiar though is the wife of the current Prime Minister expressing her disapproval of the cover-up Mrs. Abe: After March 11, of course. Initially, I didn’t realize such an awful thing was happening. Then things began to come into the open and we began to see so much was hidden from us. I think people have grown distrustful. I hope they will make everything public http://blogs.wsj.com/japanrealtime/2013/12/07/japans-first-lady-in-her-own-words/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJP Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 In days like this, Merry X Mass & Happy 2014 everybody, it's good to read some stories that make their way to the forum members here. In the New York Post a article about what happen with the crew from the USS Ronald Reagan. Here is the link so you can read it yourself.. If you read it carefully then you see the disaster that got triggered by the Japanese Government and TEPCO. Also read in a report from a fishery agency that tuna catch for the coast by California now have 300 till 400 times the level of Iodine 31 in them. This will spread all kind of cancers on populations who have fish high on the eating habits. The Fukushima disaster is so massive that the whole World seems to have stuck its collective head in the sand hoping it will just blow over. This should be front and centre all day everyday. But no. It's odd. Peculiar. EDIT: For anyone even vaguely interested, SjaakNL's link is definitely worth reading. I no longer think it is peculiar MJP. It's just the most enormous and criminal cover up imaginable. More peopl e should be extremely angry with the Japanese government particularly those who have children. What is peculiar though is the wife of the current Prime Minister expressing her disapproval of the cover-up Mrs. Abe: After March 11, of course. Initially, I didn’t realize such an awful thing was happening. Then things began to come into the open and we began to see so much was hidden from us. I think people have grown distrustful. I hope they will make everything public http://blogs.wsj.com/japanrealtime/2013/12/07/japans-first-lady-in-her-own-words/ Sadly it's going to take a sudden mass of people both in Japan and the West coast of the US and Alaska turning up at their GP's with all manner of illnesses the local Doctor has never seen before. Then the birth defects. Then all the other Chernobyl type horrors. There's no point covering this up. Cover what up? You can't hide many thousands of people with radiation exposure related tumours! It's just nuts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midas Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 (edited) The Fukushima disaster is so massive that the whole World seems to have stuck its collective head in the sand hoping it will just blow over. This should be front and centre all day everyday. But no. It's odd. Peculiar. EDIT: For anyone even vaguely interested, SjaakNL's link is definitely worth reading. I no longer think it is peculiar MJP. It's just the most enormous and criminal cover up imaginable. More peopl e should be extremely angry with the Japanese government particularly those who have children. What is peculiar though is the wife of the current Prime Minister expressing her disapproval of the cover-up Mrs. Abe: After March 11, of course. Initially, I didn’t realize such an awful thing was happening. Then things began to come into the open and we began to see so much was hidden from us. I think people have grown distrustful. I hope they will make everything public http://blogs.wsj.com/japanrealtime/2013/12/07/japans-first-lady-in-her-own-words/ Sadly it's going to take a sudden mass of people both in Japan and the West coast of the US and Alaska turning up at their GP's with all manner of illnesses the local Doctor has never seen before. Then the birth defects. Then all the other Chernobyl type horrors. There's no point covering this up. Cover what up? You can't hide many thousands of people with radiation exposure related tumours! It's just nuts! It depends if you believe in conspiracy theories as to who is behind it. All I know it doesn't take much research to realise that there are huge numbers of Japanese people living right in the middle of this hot zone even today when they should have been evacuated ages ago. And you'd have to be smoking something to believe international athletes are still going to want to risk their health in 2020 in Tokyo especially now that we all know what happened to the sailors on the Reagan http://open.salon.com/blog/stuartbramhall/2013/05/13/the_continuing_fukushima_cover-up Edited December 29, 2013 by midas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJP Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Tokyo Olympics? They're completely off their face. Never going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOMeTOM Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Has anybody noticed a sudden appearance of peaches in a very sweet syrup all over Tesco? Guess from where they are imported from. Looks as Dole had a very lucrative deal recently. Just googglit if you want to know more, and don't be scared if you glowing in the dark now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOMeTOM Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 http://japandailypress.com/thailand-becomes-first-to-import-peaches-from-fukushima-1412131/ http://www.fruitnet.com/asiafruit/article/15402/thailand-imports-fukushima-peaches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mumjokmok Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 “Wisdom builds the nation, Thai people must not lack iodine” Who says Thai people are silly. They have National Iodine Day here, and they have iodine-added foods. I think that's good preparation, maybe they know something we don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJP Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 “Wisdom builds the nation, Thai people must not lack iodine” Who says Thai people are silly. They have National Iodine Day here, and they have iodine-added foods. I think that's good preparation, maybe they know something we don't. No. They figured out that the upcountry diet was deficient in the iodine required for brain development just a few years ago! I remember it on the news here. In the US and other countries they started doing this in the 1920's!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mumjokmok Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 “Wisdom builds the nation, Thai people must not lack iodine” Who says Thai people are silly. They have National Iodine Day here, and they have iodine-added foods. I think that's good preparation, maybe they know something we don't. No. They figured out that the upcountry diet was deficient in the iodine required for brain development just a few years ago! I remember it on the news here. In the US and other countries they started doing this in the 1920's!!! Of course, just a bit of fun at the 'wild green clouds of doom' scenario that seems popular with posters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJP Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 “Wisdom builds the nation, Thai people must not lack iodine” Who says Thai people are silly. They have National Iodine Day here, and they have iodine-added foods. I think that's good preparation, maybe they know something we don't. No. They figured out that the upcountry diet was deficient in the iodine required for brain development just a few years ago! I remember it on the news here. In the US and other countries they started doing this in the 1920's!!! Of course, just a bit of fun at the 'wild green clouds of doom' scenario that seems popular with posters. Good on you, God knows we need a bit of fun round here, it's got all the merriment of a mortuary in a blackout. That said. I do think this Fukushima disaster and its effects are being rather seriously played down and it's rare for me to take anything seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atsiii Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 http://japandailypress.com/thailand-becomes-first-to-import-peaches-from-fukushima-1412131/ http://www.fruitnet.com/asiafruit/article/15402/thailand-imports-fukushima-peaches Interesting that neither article mentions any radioactive testing undertaken to dismiss consumer concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midas Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Has anybody noticed a sudden appearance of peaches in a very sweet syrup all over Tesco? Guess from where they are imported from. Looks as Dole had a very lucrative deal recently. Just googglit if you want to know more, and don't be scared if you glowing in the dark now Keep a look out for these…………………… http://lifedaily.net/fukushima-mutant-vegetable-images-sweep-across-the-region-two-years-after-nuclear-disaster/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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