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Apple Tries to Ban Android Ice Cream Sandwich

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Can Apple Ban Ice Cream Sandwich on the Nexus?

As the smartphone patent wars heat up, Apple has gone for the throat and filed a preliminary injunction against Samsung to ban sales of the Galaxy Nexus for allegedly infringing several key patents.

Surprisingly, it’s not the hardware that Apple wants to ban but Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich) which they believe has stolen several ideas from their own iOS.

Full story: http://www.nettechbl...le-ban-android/

-- nettechblog.com 2012-02-14

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so who ever had a smart phone OS before Apple should sue Apple because the OS is similar... jeeze Apple ...get a life :D

ARGUING and sueing over being able to click on a phone..or slide over to unlock a screen....or predictive text...holy shit.

I'm pretty sure some of those patents were actually bought by Apple not actually their own work.

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Maybe Palm or HP can finally get a big payday because the first touch screen devices I had were the Pilot and the iPAQ.

HP get a big payday every quarter ,they are not strapped for cash

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Apple suck big time. I would never buy an Apple device. I will be glad when Apple is history. Hopefully it won't be far away.

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While not an Apple fan/user myself ( wife is 100% ) I must say I always admired them & their stance against Microsoft in the early years of personal computers.

Today sadly they seem like they have become the bloated, complaining, suing, MS of Cell Tech....Not good

They should focus

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While not an Apple fan/user myself ( wife is 100% ) I must say I always admired them & their stance against Microsoft in the early years of personal computers.

Today sadly they seem like they have become the bloated, complaining, suing, MS of Cell Tech....Not good

They should focus

But their stance against Microsoft was mainly a personal vendetta.. PRETTY MUCH THE SAME AS THE aNDROID stance.

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But their stance against Microsoft was mainly a personal vendetta.. PRETTY MUCH THE SAME AS THE aNDROID stance.

:) You know I forgot about that & was only thinking of them standing aside & being different

But yes now that you mention it

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The main problem is in my view with the United States Patent Office, which grants a patent for just about any nonsense. They call it "Business method" and can cover things such as a method for highlighting numbers in a text or portions of text containing "@".

Companies apply for such patents and get them granted and then go suing everybody around. Well, at least in USA. I would wonder how a European Court would deal with the matter. As far as I know, the European Patent Office has refused patents for such trivial, or as they say "obvious" ideas.

But as long as the USPTO is granting this kind of patent, companies will try to make money by litigation rather than innovation.

A pity! Apple used to be in the Innovation camp. Not anymore, apparently.

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its a ice beger with a head apple should be proud there doing it then when the company thats doing the ice cream is making big money then they should screw them for every cent they have ,lol

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I will be glad when Apple is history. Hopefully it won't be far away.

Do you know something the rest of the world doesn't? Latest market cap of Apple is 464 billion US :-)

Clearly living under a rock... :P

Just read these numbers for the last quarter 37M iPhones sold.... 15M iPads... 5M Macs... the last number is the killer. Selling 5M Macs is more than the company has ever sold in one quarter - and it's a respectable number in the PC market. But they sold 3 iPads for every Mac, and 7 or so phones! That's crazy.

As far as the late Job's personal Vendetta vs. Android is concerned - I think Apple is taking it too far and I kind of wish they'd just silently blackmail the hardware makers like Microsoft does (MS earns a pretty penny on the "free" Android OS - all for patent licenses....). If Apple made some money on those things that Android clearly stole from the iPhone IMO it would be the most just solution. Everyone would win.

Banning Android is ridiculous - it can't happen, and it won't, and if it did happen it would be terrible for competition.

I think the best that Apple can hope for with this litigation is that Android removes some stolen features - ex. swipe to unlock. And then replaces these features with inventions of their own. It's not that hard to come up with something that works just as well but is different. It wouldn't hurt Android in the long run. Is that really worth spending a lot of money on? Doubtful.

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A lot of these patent disputes, between Apple and Android (Samsung, HTC, Motorola, Google, et al.) seem to be occurring in Germany and the EU. I think the EU is even more liberal granting patents? Geez, they granted Apple a patent on a "rectangular device"!

Anyway, this "slide-to-unlock" feature which was displayed in 2007 by Apple but not patented until 2010 (maybe granted in 2011) has some pretty broad language,

"The device is unlocked if contact with the display corresponds to a predefined gesture for unlocking the device. The device displays one or more unlock images with respect to which the predefined gesture is to be performed in order to unlock the device."

How's this for a predefined gesture, raising middle finger. Notice that it is not "slide to unlock" but rather, "do anything to unlock".

We could probably find many instances of "slide-to-unlock" in the public domain; from movies, TV, scifi.

re: handling phone numbers, heck, what else would you do with a phone number? I'm surprised Apple doesn't have a patent on the phone book? And predictive text? Please, that's been around for ages.

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A lot of these patent disputes, between Apple and Android (Samsung, HTC, Motorola, Google, et al.) seem to be occurring in Germany and the EU. I think the EU is even more liberal granting patents? Geez, they granted Apple a patent on a "rectangular device"

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Contrary to the reports in the medai, this was not a patent but a DESIGN dispute. Not a technical issue, but an issue of aesthetics.

In the US, this is called a "Design patent" and the media often omits the "design" part, calling it a patent, which is quite misleading. But it's a totally different thing granted without any prior examination.

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I think back to Amazon's " 1-Click" litigation. Barnes and Noble after had to utilize two clicks to check out. All of that over an extra click?

Now, as Iomatopo says, a simple "slide to unlock" is in suit.

But, really, tablets and smartphones use pretty much the same format. Litigants arguing over the same terrain.

So, maybe this will spur new format development.

But, kind of hard to litigate "do anything to unblock."

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Really, you admired that they accused Microsoft of infringing on their macOS, because MS had stolen the 'look and feel' of the MacOS, when infact Apple had stolen the idea and software from Xerox PARC.. lets not forget that Xerox was the one that invented the GUI, NOT Apple as that fraud Steve Jobs (RIP) had claimed, Xerox had a working minicomputer running a GUI OS, Apple got a free tour the PARC facility with their engineers (Xerox execs had their heads up their butts and didn't understand the significance of that little lab at their research facility and decicied that the future of the company lay in photocopying) Apple went on to develop Lisa and the Macintosh by creating an almost exact replica of what they had seen at PARC, when MS jumped on the bandwagon-Apple claimed they 'stole' the idea in a most frivilous lawsuit that failed miserably. Apple claims to be this great inovator but they have actually 'borowed' every idea they claim to have had. probably the only genuine idea they ever had was hypercard.. a useless program but was similar to the www idea that was soon after developed by tim burners lee at CERN (it was similar in that on hypercard you would click on these links that would take you to another hc 'stack' and you could make your own stacks, like an electronic book). Apple didn't have the forsight to take hypercard and turn it into a www, they just left it on local area network servers, which made it useless and so no one ever used it.

While not an Apple fan/user myself ( wife is 100% ) I must say I always admired them & their stance against Microsoft in the early years of personal computers.

Today sadly they seem like they have become the bloated, complaining, suing, MS of Cell Tech....Not good

They should focus

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Really, you admired that they accused Microsoft of infringing on their macOS,

No actually I see a few folks have mentioned it now & I should clarify......

My original statement meant nothing more than I admired there was an alternative OS

I did not pay attention to all the skulduggery that went on behind the scenes

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agreed, windows was usless upto 3.1; I was a loyal macuser when MS was selling that 3.1 garbage, i remember PC users at the time didn't realize how bad they had it with 3.1, and mac users didn't realize how good they had it with mac os 6 and 7.. it made me wonder why apple belittled themselves by starting a lawsuit that compared the mac os with 3.1 .. they should have been educating everyone on how bad the ms os was while they were way ahead, by the time win95 came out, apples os was still better, but not way way better like it was before..

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