bigbamboo Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) This monk makes us all look bad. But of course it happens. The Buddha always cautioned his monks about their dealings with women, saying that women were the #1 problem monks will have in their practice. This Phra Kru isn't the first and most definitly won't be the last to fall due to lust. So Buddha warned against dealings with women. Plus ca change! Edited February 16, 2012 by bigbamboo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TackyToo Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 This monk makes us all look bad. But of course it happens. The Buddha always cautioned his monks about their dealings with women, saying that women were the #1 problem monks will have in their practice. This Phra Kru isn't the first and most definitly won't be the last to fall due to lust. Yeah and it's the Burger's, Pizza's and Taco's fault if you get fat,- right? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unkomoncents Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 This story plays precisely into the hands of the academics who tell you that when the first societies developed, farmers who farmed surplus crops had to relieved of their supplies somehow. How does one convince a farmer to relinquish his produce without having to perform any work oneself: tell them you have communion with the spirits/gods and will provide protection from the rains and evil gods. Priests were the world's first quacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Om85 Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 This is not something new, monks raping child, monks having sex with young ladies, monks consuming ya baa and ice and the list goes on...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reasonableman Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 And this is the academics' fault? You lost me. This story plays precisely into the hands of the academics who tell you that when the first societies developed, farmers who farmed surplus crops had to relieved of their supplies somehow. How does one convince a farmer to relinquish his produce without having to perform any work oneself: tell them you have communion with the spirits/gods and will provide protection from the rains and evil gods. Priests were the world's first quacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackthorn2005 Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Get the Abbey habit, <deleted> a monk, well she did! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirchai Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Upon opening the door to his bedroom, villagers found him naked in bed with 35-year-old Saipin Chumti which resulted in an immediate disrobing of the monk. Is he naked now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirchai Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 This is not something new, monks raping child, monks having sex with young ladies, monks consuming ya baa and ice and the list goes on...... Some of them even Chakawao...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeddyFlyfisherDavis Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Some of these so called "monks" have more money than you care to imagine...Gold and Teake mansion...? Wonder what the villagers live in... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewsta Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 wasn't he already disrobed? says it all, eh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanferdi Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Sounds like he was already disrobed No JOKE he was disrobbed alright - but a pretty sight in his birthday suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlansford Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 This monk makes us all look bad. But of course it happens. The Buddha always cautioned his monks about their dealings with women, saying that women were the #1 problem monks will have in their practice. This Phra Kru isn't the first and most definitly won't be the last to fall due to lust. Not the monk, it's the religion that makes you look bad. Maybe your post is a bit brief &might be interpreted as something needlessly offensive. Perhaps you might be able to expand on it, so that others do not misunderstand what you meant to say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsailor35 Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 at least he was with a WOMAN, which is far better than some Catholic monks have been doing... And it proves that all monks are'nt wanke_rs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsailor35 Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 A couple of years ago, i was accosted by a monk in Kosan Road, asking for money. Someone told me that he could not be a monk as they are not allowed to beg for money. Is this true ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikster Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 I can't say that I really blame him, but he is the one who signed up to be a monk. Ehh... when he was 12?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 I can't say that I really blame him, but he is the one who signed up to be a monk. Ehh... when he was 12?! Yes, but like many deeply religious people, they blow up so quick these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikster Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 This monk makes us all look bad. But of course it happens. The Buddha always cautioned his monks about their dealings with women, saying that women were the #1 problem monks will have in their practice. This Phra Kru isn't the first and most definitly won't be the last to fall due to lust. Not the monk, it's the religion that makes you look bad. .Much (Baap) negative energy to you who blames this on the religion and not the monk for his actions Gandhi said: I like your Christ, but not your christianity. Maybe the same can be said for Buddha and Buddhism. The Buddha was one of the world's great prophets, teaching the one truth. Buddhism is a religion like any other with wealthy churches, gold trinkets, telling people what's good and what's bad but sometimes without practicing that themselves, and so on. I think I'll stick with the original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time Traveller Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) <deleted> Edited February 16, 2012 by Time Traveller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 I have a lot of time for Buddhism, but like catholicism, it is absurd that both expect male priests/monks to remain celibate (or is that "sell a bit"?), and both feign shock when it isn't so. The only way to fix the problem is to throw open the doors and free monks and priests to marry. It would seem a better solution than having them sneaking round like teenagers, climbing through windows to 'asssist' their flock, laying each other, altar boys, novice monks, soi dogs, etc. Ah, yes. Will the church then accept gay marriage to accomodate the perceived majority? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 This story plays precisely into the hands of the academics who tell you that when the first societies developed, farmers who farmed surplus crops had to relieved of their supplies somehow. How does one convince a farmer to relinquish his produce without having to perform any work oneself: tell them you have communion with the spirits/gods and will provide protection from the rains and evil gods. Priests were the world's first quacks. summarised as "When the first smart man met the first fool, the first religion was born." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxpirant Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) "There are many, many monks in Chiang Mai who are multi-millionaires". A baht millionaire isn't wealthy, only a little over $30,000, but that's a LOT more than a monk should have. Nikster, Buddhism isn't generally regarded as a religion, more as a philosophy on life. A religion requires a God, and the Buddha wasn't, nor claimed to be, a God. It's a nice philosophy though. I guess the monk just vowed to try harder to be a good person tomorrow?? Judging by the look on the dog's face, I think he was involved. "When the first smart man met the first fool, the first religion was born." I like that line, and it still astounds me that highly intelligent and educated people fall for the religion line. Edited February 16, 2012 by saxpirant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jshorts Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 This is not something new, monks raping child, monks having sex with young ladies, monks consuming ya baa and ice and the list goes on...... And, thankfully this is the exception. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 I am led to believe that the Koran bans the eating of animals which have been the subject of "unusual affection." This has lead to selective breeding where the sexiest goats have more offspring, and thus making the practice much less unusual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewsta Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Sounds like he was already disrobed No JOKE he was disrobbed alright - but a pretty sight in his birthday suit. Forgive me...but is 'disrobbed' where a thief returns your money that he/she has stolen ? ;0) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xthAi76s Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) "There are many, many monks in Chiang Mai who are multi-millionaires". A baht millionaire isn't wealthy, only a little over $30,000, but that's a LOT more than a monk should have. Nikster, Buddhism isn't generally regarded as a religion, more as a philosophy on life. A religion requires a God, and the Buddha wasn't, nor claimed to be, a God. It's a nice philosophy though. I guess the monk just vowed to try harder to be a good person tomorrow?? Judging by the look on the dog's face, I think he was involved. "When the first smart man met the first fool, the first religion was born." I like that line, and it still astounds me that highly intelligent and educated people fall for the religion line. However, it looks like he was working with 10 times a million Baht. Spending 10,000,000 Baht on an accommodation in Thailand is a pretty big deal. The monk is a famous preacher with a lot of followers. He did so well with donations that he was able to construct a golden teak wood accommodation for himself with a budget of 10 million baht. 10,000,000 Thai baht = 324,250 U.S. dollars 1,000,000 Thai baht = 32,425 U.S. dollars Edited February 16, 2012 by ThailandMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxpirant Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) Quite right Thailand man. I was just making the point that a baht millionaire isn't wealthy by our standards, more making reference to the comment that there were a lot of millionaire monks in Chiang Mai. As for a 10 million baht house, that is a LOT of money for a monk, or probably most people in Thailand, and even for many of the retired foreigners living in Thailand. I think his conduct may be called, in religious terms (though Buddhism isn't strictly a religion), perversion of the doctrine. Edited February 16, 2012 by saxpirant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bankei Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 I recently posted up several videos of stories regarding 'bad monks' I wonder if this monk is the one featured in the second video on that thread? Bankei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerryk Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 What I love about Thailand. Last night discussing the Thai news GF and I talked about the monk from Lampang. Her first comment. A very bad woman to have sex with a monk. Now if she keeps that philosophy if it ever happens to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xthAi76s Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 (edited) Quite right Thailand man. I was just making the point that a baht millionaire isn't wealthy by our standards, more making reference to the comment that there were a lot of millionaire monks in Chiang Mai. As for a 10 million baht house, that is a LOT of money for a monk, or probably most people in Thailand, and even for many of the retired foreigners living in Thailand. I think his conduct may be called, in religious terms (though Buddhism isn't strictly a religion), perversion of the doctrine. I see. Yes, I agree. This perversion of religion/doctrine is pervasive in almost every country as I'm aware. And it doesn't merely exist; it's often endemic. (Just for contrast, for example, the Catholic Church both historically and presently. Or the mega wealthy Christian Churches in the US. You want to find the richest organization in many US communities? Look for the church...) It's a human condition, greed, and, alas, despite the many masses holding up these human beings as being above normal human weaknesses and possessing some other-worldly powers of wisdom and truth, these religious leaders are often no better than petty criminals, but, of course, one would need to look past the facade. I hate religion. Back up. I hate the practice (poor practice) of it. Sadly for me, I left one ultra religious 1st world country for an arguably even more religious 3rd world country. It has not been an improvement in that regard. Edited February 17, 2012 by ThailandMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airconsult Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Get the Abbey habit, <deleted> a monk, well she did! Drink!! <deleted>!!!! Giiirrrlllsssss!!! Arrrggghhh - Nun!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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