Iran Envoy Claims 'Zionist Regime' Behind Bangkok Blasts

[GentlemanJim]

An article in The Times of India dated 16 Feb reveals that India's National Security Guard was not allowed to investigate the "bombed" Israeli embassy car for "diplomatic reasons". Why would the Israelis not want the Indian counter-terrorism police to investigate the evidence of a bomb attack in New Delhi? The Times also reported that India has "no proof" to blame Iran.

Not true. The vehicle was taken to the police station, while specific specialists were called in. The vehicle was then examined by Indian and Israeli security officials. It is a claim that has since been shown to not be accurate as per the articles below.

The vehicle was indeed examined by police explosive experts from New Delhi. That's what the article actually says.

Though he did not give reasons of NSG not getting access to the blast site, sources said the force was asked not to visit the spot near the PM's residence due to "diplomatic reasons". They added that a small team was allowed to visit the Tughlaq road police station to get post-blast samples from the Innova car which was parked there.

Those orders came from the Indian government because the Israeli building was in close proximity to the Indian PM residence and there was a function going on.

If you read the actual news articles you will see such sections as;

The police have confirmed that the metallic strips recovered from the blast spot have hinted that the bomb was fixed on a strip that was about the 5 inches X 8 inches in size. "We do not know whether the entire portion had a magnetic strip attached to it. However, we have established that these magnetic strips are used in flour mills and cement manufacturing units in various dimensions to locate impurity. These strips are manufactured extensively at Daryaganj and Seelampur and we are visiting these manufacturing units for clues," said an officer.

So much for being blocked from investigating.

And there is no mention of being blocked from examing the vehicle in this article of Feb. 18.

http://timesofindia....ow/11932938.cms

And no mention of being blocked from investigating in this article of Feb. 17

http://timesofindia....ow/11919619.cms

There is much more in the Times India, go search yourself. I am unwilling to feed the likes of you for you to simply spout off some superficial reason to deny what is said. Take a look at the newspaper itself and read the bit under the photo. Perhaps as you know so much you ought to contact the Indian security forces and tell them why they could not examine the vehicle.

[Scott]

A long post with some interesting information, but a little too much anti-semitic rhetoric has been deleted along with replies. If you want your post to remain, then follow the rules. This includes posts which are anti-Islamic.

You are welcome to your opinion within the forum rules.

[TongueThaied]

I thought from the get go that Israel was behind the bombing. It was way to amature for a government job. It has Mossad written all over it.

[maiphedmaiaroi]

Not a false flag. They wouldn't attack their OWN ambassadors. Tin hattery only goes so far.

BTW, for anyone who has been following Israel's potential bombing plans. They DO NOT want the USA to be involved in the bombing, if there will be one. In fact, they CANCELED a major military exercise with the US that was coming up as part of a process of distancing themselves from the US (and to prepare a potential attack to do themselves).

Iran, if it is bombed, will have the CHOICE whether to retaliate against American targets. If they do, they are asking for full scale war with the USA. Their option. Odds are they won't take it.

Who will be attacking the american targets. Possibly another false flag just so the us can get involved. Theyre desperate so anything is possible. Infact its garuanteed to happen.

[Jingthing]

Not a false flag. They wouldn't attack their OWN ambassadors. Tin hattery only goes so far.

BTW, for anyone who has been following Israel's potential bombing plans. They DO NOT want the USA to be involved in the bombing, if there will be one. In fact, they CANCELED a major military exercise with the US that was coming up as part of a process of distancing themselves from the US (and to prepare a potential attack to do themselves).

Iran, if it is bombed, will have the CHOICE whether to retaliate against American targets. If they do, they are asking for full scale war with the USA. Their option. Odds are they won't take it.

Who will be attacking the american targets. Possibly another false flag just so the us can get involved. Theyre desperate so anything is possible. Infact its garuanteed to happen.

You are saying America wants a full blown war with Iran now? I don't agree. It may be inevitable, but the money isn't there and the burn out from Iraq and Afghanistan is palpable. Obama certainly doesn't need it to get reelected, he is way ahead in the polls now and a crisis with Iran would create an oil price panic derailing the frail economic recovery.

[maiphedmaiaroi]

Holocaust consciousness is not an easy thing to shake off. Give it another 100 years and then we can talk.

This topic is not about the Holocaust.

In your famous words.....Move on.

[Jingthing]

Holocaust consciousness is not an easy thing to shake off. Give it another 100 years and then we can talk.

This topic is not about the Holocaust.

In your famous words.....Move on.

What a troll post. I was directly responding to another poster's comment and you know it. So the way you quoted me without the context in this case was very deceptive. Edited February 19, 2012 by Jingthing

[maiphedmaiaroi]

Iran is an ancient country that has been thriving from antiquity and one that has played an important role in the civilisation of mankind.

It is also an Islamic theocracy which supports terrorists and threatens to decimate other countries while working on developing illegal nuclear weapons.

Still no proof from you. Still waiting.........................

[maiphedmaiaroi]

Not a false flag. They wouldn't attack their OWN ambassadors. Tin hattery only goes so far.

BTW, for anyone who has been following Israel's potential bombing plans. They DO NOT want the USA to be involved in the bombing, if there will be one. In fact, they CANCELED a major military exercise with the US that was coming up as part of a process of distancing themselves from the US (and to prepare a potential attack to do themselves).

Iran, if it is bombed, will have the CHOICE whether to retaliate against American targets. If they do, they are asking for full scale war with the USA. Their option. Odds are they won't take it.

Who will be attacking the american targets. Possibly another false flag just so the us can get involved. Theyre desperate so anything is possible. Infact its garuanteed to happen.

You are saying America wants a full blown war with Iran now? I don't agree. It may be inevitable, but the money isn't there and the burn out from Iraq and Afghanistan is palpable. Obama certainly doesn't need it to get reelected, he is way ahead in the polls now and a crisis with Iran would create an oil price panic derailing the frail economic recovery.

Not sure about full scale war but they want regime change and all of irans resources. Anyone who doesnt do as the US says/wants or anything that the US doesnt aprove then they will be invaded/toppled. History shows us this.

[Jingthing]

The intelligence information of western country shows a belief that Iran is working hard and rapidly to develop the capability to create weaponized nukes in a short time. There isn't evidence they are working on building the bombs right now. To many, this isn't a big difference. If you have all the ingredients ready for the bomb building (nuclear plus the delivery technology) you are just about there. If I assemble the ingredients to cook a soup, I don't have soup, but I can have it in half an hour.

[Jingthing]

Not a false flag. They wouldn't attack their OWN ambassadors. Tin hattery only goes so far.

BTW, for anyone who has been following Israel's potential bombing plans. They DO NOT want the USA to be involved in the bombing, if there will be one. In fact, they CANCELED a major military exercise with the US that was coming up as part of a process of distancing themselves from the US (and to prepare a potential attack to do themselves).

Iran, if it is bombed, will have the CHOICE whether to retaliate against American targets. If they do, they are asking for full scale war with the USA. Their option. Odds are they won't take it.

Who will be attacking the american targets. Possibly another false flag just so the us can get involved. Theyre desperate so anything is possible. Infact its garuanteed to happen.

You are saying America wants a full blown war with Iran now? I don't agree. It may be inevitable, but the money isn't there and the burn out from Iraq and Afghanistan is palpable. Obama certainly doesn't need it to get reelected, he is way ahead in the polls now and a crisis with Iran would create an oil price panic derailing the frail economic recovery.

Not sure about full scale war but they want regime change and all of irans resources. Anyone who doesnt do as the US says/wants or anything that the US doesnt aprove then they will be invaded/toppled. History shows us this.

American power has limits and even the most hard core neocons don't believe American can hope to control Iran. There is of course hope that more moderate forces topple the current theocratic regime.

[Jingthing]

America may want all the resources in the world but they aren't going to get it. Same with China. Let's get back to reality. American has no ambition to install a Shah of Iran again. Those days are over.

[maiphedmaiaroi]

The intelligence information of western country shows a belief that Iran is working hard and rapidly to develop the capability to create weaponized nukes in a short time. There isn't evidence they are working on building the bombs right now. To many, this isn't a big difference. If you have all the ingredients ready for the bomb building (nuclear plus the delivery technology) you are just about there. If I assemble the ingredients to cook a soup, I don't have soup, but I can have it in half an hour.

shows a belief , just a belief and no facts or evidence.

Couple of ifs there too.

So your now comparing Iran creating a nuke to you making some soup? wow in that case lets bomb em.

[Jingthing]

The intelligence information of western country shows a belief that Iran is working hard and rapidly to develop the capability to create weaponized nukes in a short time. There isn't evidence they are working on building the bombs right now. To many, this isn't a big difference. If you have all the ingredients ready for the bomb building (nuclear plus the delivery technology) you are just about there. If I assemble the ingredients to cook a soup, I don't have soup, but I can have it in half an hour.

shows a belief , just a belief and no facts or evidence.

Couple of ifs there too.

So your now comparing Iran creating a nuke to you making some soup? wow in that case lets bomb em.

You're just playing semantic games now. What a bore. You know what I mean. There are intelligence reports and western governments have come to conclusions about them. If you're talking about a smoking gun, I would say no. Anyway, given the assumption they aren't even at the level yet of having the nuclear technology to make a nuke but are getting there, there wouldn't be a smoking gun yet anyway. The idea is to stop them from having this capability. Some want them to have this, and some don't.

[Reasonableman]

You must be talking about that packet onion broth, which produces noxious foul fartz.

The intelligence information of western country shows a belief that Iran is working hard and rapidly to develop the capability to create weaponized nukes in a short time. There isn't evidence they are working on building the bombs right now. To many, this isn't a big difference. If you have all the ingredients ready for the bomb building (nuclear plus the delivery technology) you are just about there. If I assemble the ingredients to cook a soup, I don't have soup, but I can have it in half an hour.

shows a belief , just a belief and no facts or evidence.

Couple of ifs there too.

So your now comparing Iran creating a nuke to you making some soup? wow in that case lets bomb em.

[Jingthing]

[/quote Don't use my posts out of context

Maybe i learnt something from ulysses or whatever his name is.

You misunderstand. You can use snippets. But what you implied about my post was total BS. You basically accused me of bringing up that off topic subject when I was only responding to someone else. Again, take this offline to the mods and stop harassing people over your trivial games.

[maiphedmaiaroi]

The intelligence information of western country shows a belief that Iran is working hard and rapidly to develop the capability to create weaponized nukes in a short time. There isn't evidence they are working on building the bombs right now. To many, this isn't a big difference. If you have all the ingredients ready for the bomb building (nuclear plus the delivery technology) you are just about there. If I assemble the ingredients to cook a soup, I don't have soup, but I can have it in half an hour.

shows a belief , just a belief and no facts or evidence.

Couple of ifs there too.

So your now comparing Iran creating a nuke to you making some soup? wow in that case lets bomb em.

You're just playing semantic games now. What a bore. You know what I mean. There are intelligence reports and western governments have come to conclusions about them. If you're talking about a smoking gun, I would say no. Anyway, given the assumption they aren't even at the level yet of having the nuclear technology to make a nuke but are getting there, there wouldn't be a smoking gun yet anyway. The idea is to stop them from having this capability. Some want them to have this, and some don't.

Sorry i cant listen to you anymore. To many war mongers around here.

You have been trained to well

On that note i will have to leave but i'll leave you with this comment

A country whose population has been trained to accept the government’s word and to shun those who question it is a country without liberty in its future.

[Reasonableman]

Wow, your parents must have had a great sense of humor, naming you maiphedmaiaroi, or whatever.

[/quote Don't use my posts out of context

Maybe i learnt something from ulysses or whatever his name is.

[GentlemanJim]

This topic is not about the Holocaust.

In your famous words.....Move on.

What a troll post. I was directly responding to another poster's comment and you know it. So the way you quoted me without the context in this case was very deceptive.

Was just confused why that post was kept when other off topic posts get deleted. Strange imo.

just like a post on here saying........"i bet you have black freinds too"

Then a couple of posts down there is a message saying off topic posts deleted LOL

Maybe its a biased thing

Complain to a mod. Don't use my posts out of context and implicate me in your crusade.

Well stop talking about the Holocaust and Anti semitism at every off tangent opportunity. It is getting very very tedious and has nothing to do with the subject matter of the OP.

[Reasonableman]

A country whose population has been trained to accept the government’s word and to shun those who question it is a country without liberty in its future.

Agree 100% with this part, many thanks

[Jingthing]

I will report antisemitic speech to the mods when I see it. If they don't delete such posts, I will then reply to antisemitic content. You have the right to report racist speech of any kind, against any people, when you see it as well. Racism and hate speech doesn't belong here against any people. There has been a rash of antisemitic posts since this Iran crisis thing popped out. Political discussion is one thing, racism is something else. Normal political criticism/opinion against any country's policies including Israel of course, is not hate speech.

Edited February 19, 2012 by Jingthing

[GentlemanJim]

Wow, your parents must have had a great sense of humor, naming you maiphedmaiaroi, or whatever.

[/quote Don't use my posts out of context

Maybe i learnt something from ulysses or whatever his name is.

And your's named you reasonableman?

Hey Jingthing, a just heard on the news that B2's are being prepared for a pre-emptive strike on Iran. They have just been loaded with a deadly cocktail of Clam Chowder and Mulligatawny the anti personnel variant contains croutons.

[Reasonableman]

I guess you must have missed the disparaging jibes about the Ulysses G nickname that prefaced it. Gotta stay on your toes around here.

;-)

Wow, your parents must have had a great sense of humor, naming you maiphedmaiaroi, or whatever.

[/quote Don't use my posts out of context

Maybe i learnt something from ulysses or whatever his name is.

And your's named you reasonableman?

Hey Jingthing, a just heard on the news that B2's are being prepared for a pre-emptive strike on Iran. They have just been loaded with a deadly cocktail of Clam Chowder and Mulligatawny the anti personnel variant contains croutons.

[Reasonableman]

Thank God it's not noodle soup and pork balls! 8-]

Wow, your parents must have had a great sense of humor, naming you maiphedmaiaroi, or whatever.

[/quote Don't use my posts out of context

Maybe i learnt something from ulysses or whatever his name is.

And your's named you reasonableman?

Hey Jingthing, a just heard on the news that B2's are being prepared for a pre-emptive strike on Iran. They have just been loaded with a deadly cocktail of Clam Chowder and Mulligatawny the anti personnel variant contains croutons.

Edited February 19, 2012 by Reasonableman

[Jingthing]

Hey Jingthing, a just heard on the news that B2's are being prepared for a pre-emptive strike on Iran. They have just been loaded with a deadly cocktail of Clam Chowder and Mulligatawny the anti personnel variant contains croutons.

That's funny! No soup for you!

[Morch]

As they do not have nuclear weapons yet, it would be rather difficult to use them. Let,s hope the situation stays that way.

I would not be surprised if the Iranians did possess something. They have been at this for over a decade. It is not as if they built a nuclear power grid in the interim. I am of the belief that one of the reasons western nations and Israel are trying to downplay to immediate risk is that they have no way of coping with it. An acknowledgement of a clear and imminent threat would require an immediate intervention that runs the risk of becoming a massive conflict fast.It could see attacks on western capitals, panic in the EU and the usual cowardice in the face of threat and the near destruction of Israel, and perhaps the destruction of key Gulf State energy suppliers. China and India would lose their most important energy supplier and would face a crisis and Russia would see further violent unrest from its muslim populace. As such, it is in everyone's best interest to deny the most likely scenario. No one really has a workable solution that would be acceptable to all parties. And so no one can let go of the tiger's tail. The situation is far worse than the general public thinks and the worlld's governments don't know what to do. The only thing everyone agrees on is to play for time and hope for the best.

I seriously doubt they currently have anything very threatening.

Looking back, Israel was never very tolerant of other countries in the area getting there, and acted to remove the threat (Egypt, Iraq, Syria).They may have reacted too late as far as Iran is concerned, and now it's a more complicated to deal with - military options are limited, political situation is a mess.

[redroo]

did the flights back to iran include 1 or 2 stopovers?

miss your flight by falling ill on stop over,

and change your distination on rebook.

[Reasonableman]

Let's hope for clarification. I guess you could parachute into a transit country, too, or ask Scotty to beam you up.

did the flights back to iran include 1 or 2 stopovers?

miss your flight by falling ill on stop over,

and change your distination on rebook.

[redroo]

reasonbleman

Yes some more info is needed for a acurated assesment of what took place.

[Morch]

As they do not have nuclear weapons yet, it would be rather difficult to use them. Let,s hope the situation stays that way.

I would not be surprised if the Iranians did possess something. They have been at this for over a decade. It is not as if they built a nuclear power grid in the interim. I am of the belief that one of the reasons western nations and Israel are trying to downplay to immediate risk is that they have no way of coping with it. An acknowledgement of a clear and imminent threat would require an immediate intervention that runs the risk of becoming a massive conflict fast.It could see attacks on western capitals, panic in the EU and the usual cowardice in the face of threat and the near destruction of Israel, and perhaps the destruction of key Gulf State energy suppliers. China and India would lose their most important energy supplier and would face a crisis and Russia would see further violent unrest from its muslim populace. As such, it is in everyone's best interest to deny the most likely scenario. No one really has a workable solution that would be acceptable to all parties. And so no one can let go of the tiger's tail. The situation is far worse than the general public thinks and the worlld's governments don't know what to do. The only thing everyone agrees on is to play for time and hope for the best.

Nice statement and very true! Just someone please tell Israel that Iran is 1-3 years from developing a nuke (if they are indeed pursing to have a nuke) and any attack on Iran will have dire consequences in the region and indeed the world, a pre-emptive strike is one hell of a gamble to play.

If Iran does not have military nuclear capability then an attack will not have "dire consequences", not for the region, nor for the world.

Might be more of a gamble to wait until they do. Depends who's taking the gamble, I guess.