Thai Opposition Leader Abhisit Meets With Aung San Suu Kyi

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Thai opposition leader meets with Aung San Suu Kyi

BANGKOK, Feb 18 - Thailand's Opposition and Democrat Party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva on Saturday flew to Myanmar to meet with pro-democracy icon Aung San Suu Kyi.

Mr Abhisit said before leaving for the neighbouring country that the meeting was arranged since his term as prime minister of Thailand.

The meeting is aimed at boosting national reconciliation and democracy development in Myanmar, said the Democrat leader, adding that he will exchange ideas with the Nobel Peace Prize laureate over the directions of change within Myanmar.

Mr Abhisit noted that Thailand's neighbour has changed rapidly and the phenomenon had an impact on the entire Southeast Asian region.

The ex-premier added that he planned to follow up the development of democratic process in Myanmar, as well as help forge cooperation between the two countries and further strengthen the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) in which Thailand and Myanmar are fellow member countries.

The visit of the opposition leader came after Thai Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra met with the National League for Democracy (NLD) party leader Aung San Suu Kyi last December, saying she supported the neighbouring country’s democratic process.

Ms Yingluck praised Ms Suu Kyi’s spirit and strong determination to boost democratic development in Myanmar constructively. She said Thailand was an ally and a close friend of Myanmar and wanted to see its neighbour continue development in every field. (MCOT online news)

-- TNA 2012-02-18

[rkidlad]

Ha ha. Thailand plugging its own style of 'democracy'. Good luck Burma.

[ianf]

I think the Lady is perceptive enough to realise who the real Democrat is.

[geriatrickid]

Wow. This chap is desperate for anything that can refurbish his image. Considering his cosy relationship with Thailand's previous military junta it is a laughable event. This will make for an embarrassing photo-op.

[whybother]

Wow. This chap is desperate for anything that can refurbish his image. Considering his cosy relationship with Thailand's previous military junta it is a laughable event. This will make for an embarrassing photo-op.

What cosy relationship did he have with the coup government?

He's the opposition leader and the previous PM. What's wrong with him visiting politicians from neighboring countries?

[Reasonableman]

Awwww... Didn't realise you had such frail sensibilities, GK. Don't worry ASSK is not easily hoodwinked, and she can probably pick a democrat from a demagogue. ;-)

Wow. This chap is desperate for anything that can refurbish his image. Considering his cosy relationship with Thailand's previous military junta it is a laughable event. This will make for an embarrassing photo-op.

[sparebox2]

Wow. This chap is desperate for anything that can refurbish his image. Considering his cosy relationship with Thailand's previous military junta it is a laughable event. This will make for an embarrassing photo-op.

What cosy relationship did he have with the coup government?

He's the opposition leader and the previous PM. What's wrong with him visiting politicians from neighboring countries?

Nothing wrong. Just that he was too busy to visit her when he WAS the Prime Minister.

An don't forget his Maldives holiday when everyone is in the middle of a flood.

[geriatrickid]

Wow. This chap is desperate for anything that can refurbish his image. Considering his cosy relationship with Thailand's previous military junta it is a laughable event. This will make for an embarrassing photo-op.

What cosy relationship did he have with the coup government?

He's the opposition leader and the previous PM. What's wrong with him visiting politicians from neighboring countries?

It is hypocritical, as his government did not offer her the necessary support when it was most needed. When he was PM, he was as quiet as a church mouse. It was western governments that spoke out. One can thank the USA and core western EU nations like the UK for the positive changes in Burma.

Thai politicans of all political stripes really did not care about her plight.

[whybother]

Wow. This chap is desperate for anything that can refurbish his image. Considering his cosy relationship with Thailand's previous military junta it is a laughable event. This will make for an embarrassing photo-op.

What cosy relationship did he have with the coup government?

He's the opposition leader and the previous PM. What's wrong with him visiting politicians from neighboring countries?

Nothing wrong. Just that he was too busy to visit her when he WAS the Prime Minister.

An don't forget his Maldives holiday when everyone is in the middle of a flood.

She was under house arrest when he was PM.

What do the floods have to do with it.

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[nurofiend]

Wow. This chap is desperate for anything that can refurbish his image. Considering his cosy relationship with Thailand's previous military junta it is a laughable event. This will make for an embarrassing photo-op.

What cosy relationship did he have with the coup government?

He's the opposition leader and the previous PM. What's wrong with him visiting politicians from neighboring countries?

It is hypocritical, as his government did not offer her the necessary support when it was most needed. When he was PM, he was as quiet as a church mouse. It was western governments that spoke out. One can thank the USA and core western EU nations like the UK for the positive changes in Burma.

Thai politicans of all political stripes really did not care about her plight.

it's also hypocritical for a man who was openly calling for a prime minister to be given office without any civilian or government input, to be championing democracy with the likes of her.

[whybother]

Wow. This chap is desperate for anything that can refurbish his image. Considering his cosy relationship with Thailand's previous military junta it is a laughable event. This will make for an embarrassing photo-op.

What cosy relationship did he have with the coup government?

He's the opposition leader and the previous PM. What's wrong with him visiting politicians from neighboring countries?

It is hypocritical, as his government did not offer her the necessary support when it was most needed. When he was PM, he was as quiet as a church mouse. It was western governments that spoke out. One can thank the USA and core western EU nations like the UK for the positive changes in Burma.

Thai politicans of all political stripes really did not care about her plight.

it's also hypocritical for a man who was openly calling for a prime minister to be given office without any civilian or government input, to be championing democracy with the likes of her.

Explain please?

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[sparebox2]

Wow. This chap is desperate for anything that can refurbish his image. Considering his cosy relationship with Thailand's previous military junta it is a laughable event. This will make for an embarrassing photo-op.

What cosy relationship did he have with the coup government?

He's the opposition leader and the previous PM. What's wrong with him visiting politicians from neighboring countries?

Nothing wrong. Just that he was too busy to visit her when he WAS the Prime Minister.

An don't forget his Maldives holiday when everyone is in the middle of a flood.

She was under house arrest when he was PM.

What do the floods have to do with it.

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Every prison in this world have a visitor room.

Mark is so free since he was fired by the Thai people. He can afford to take exotic holidays like Maldives and Burma etc. Maybe Machu pichu is next on his list?

Edited February 18, 2012 by sparebox2

[Jimi007]

Wow. This chap is desperate for anything that can refurbish his image. Considering his cosy relationship with Thailand's previous military junta it is a laughable event. This will make for an embarrassing photo-op.

What cosy relationship did he have with the coup government? He's the opposition leader and the previous PM. What's wrong with him visiting politicians from neighboring countries?

It is hypocritical, as his government did not offer her the necessary support when it was most needed. When he was PM, he was as quiet as a church mouse. It was western governments that spoke out. One can thank the USA and core western EU nations like the UK for the positive changes in Burma. Thai politicans of all political stripes really did not care about her plight.

it's also hypocritical for a man who was openly calling for a prime minister to be given office without any civilian or government input, to be championing democracy with the likes of her.

A bit of a cryptic post. The way I read it is Thaksin appointed himself PM after the snap election he called for failed. But what does that have to do with the OP. Abhisit was elected as an MP and then by a coalition vote by the MPs was elected PM.

[nurofiend]

Explain please?

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Democrat Party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva called on Thaksin to quit and asked HM the King to appoint a new prime minister and Cabinet to end the current crisis.

http://nationmultimedia.com/2006/03/26/headlines/headlines_30000239.php

[nurofiend]

A bit of a cryptic post. The way I read it is Thaksin appointed himself PM after the snap election he called for failed. But what does that have to do with the OP. Abhisit was elected as an MP and then by a coalition vote by the MPs was elected PM.

read answer to whybother

i thought ye'd all be well aware of this...

[Jimi007]

A bit of a cryptic post. The way I read it is Thaksin appointed himself PM after the snap election he called for failed. But what does that have to do with the OP. Abhisit was elected as an MP and then by a coalition vote by the MPs was elected PM.

read answer to whybother

i thought ye'd all be well aware of this...

Yeah I was aware that: "Thaksin dissolved the House on February 23, paving the way for a snap election on April 2.

However, three opposition parties - the Democrats, Chat Thai and Mahachon - have boycotted the poll.

They claimed the dissolution was unfair to all MPs and the public, as the crisis derived from the alleged abuse of power by Thaksin when he sold his family's telecommunications company Shin Corp to Singapore Temasek Holdings."

So, back to what does this have to do with the OP or my other comment? Yes Abhisit was the leader of the democratic party. He called Thaksin's bluff. The army as always decides whether a coup will happen. Then Thaksin's brother in law; Surayud Chulanont was appointed to be PM. Then the guy that got kicked out because he had a cooking show; Somchai Wongsawat. Then finally Abhisit became PM.

Sometimes this new board software drives me crazy!

Edited February 18, 2012 by Jimi007

[KhaoNiaw]

It's just two people who believe in parliamentary democracy having a chinwag.

Nothing to see really. It's one of the great ironies that Abhisit actually puts much more faith in a parliamentary democracy than Thaksin or any affiliate. Which doesn't say  lot.

[nurofiend]

A bit of a cryptic post. The way I read it is Thaksin appointed himself PM after the snap election he called for failed. But what does that have to do with the OP. Abhisit was elected as an MP and then by a coalition vote by the MPs was elected PM.

read answer to whybother

i thought yed all be well aware of this...

Yeah I was aware that: "Thaksin dissolved the House on February 23, paving the way for a snap election on April 2.

However, three opposition parties - the Democrats, Chat Thai and Mahachon - have boycotted the poll.

They claimed the dissolution was unfair to all MPs and the public, as the crisis derived from the alleged abuse of power by Thaksin when he sold his family's telecommunications company Shin Corp to Singapore Temasek Holdings."

So, back to what does this have to do with the OP or my other comment? Yes Abhisit was the leader of the democratic party. He called Thaksin's bluff. The army as always decides whether a coup will happen. And the rest I cant post here.

Sometimes this new board software drives me crazy!

you didn't seem to be aware of it because you said it was cryptic, when it was plain english, so i thought if you were aware of it you would know exactly what i was talking about straight away.

you then started talking about a load of stuff none of which countered what i said, maybe in an effort to prove you know what you're talking about... i never said otherwise.

what it has to do with the OP is that a man who asked for such an act, is hardly the model for democracy.

[Jimi007]

A bit of a cryptic post. The way I read it is Thaksin appointed himself PM after the snap election he called for failed. But what does that have to do with the OP. Abhisit was elected as an MP and then by a coalition vote by the MPs was elected PM.

read answer to whybother

i thought yed all be well aware of this...

Yeah I was aware that: "Thaksin dissolved the House on February 23, paving the way for a snap election on April 2.

However, three opposition parties - the Democrats, Chat Thai and Mahachon - have boycotted the poll.

They claimed the dissolution was unfair to all MPs and the public, as the crisis derived from the alleged abuse of power by Thaksin when he sold his family's telecommunications company Shin Corp to Singapore Temasek Holdings."

So, back to what does this have to do with the OP or my other comment? Yes Abhisit was the leader of the democratic party. He called Thaksin's bluff. The army as always decides whether a coup will happen. And the rest I cant post here.

Sometimes this new board software drives me crazy!

you didn't seem to be aware of it because you said it was cryptic, when it was plain english, so i thought if you were aware of it you would know exactly what i was talking about straight away.

you then started talking about a load of stuff none of which countered what i said, maybe in an effort to prove you know what you're talking about... i never said otherwise.

what it has to do with the OP is that a man who asked for such an act, is hardly the model for democracy.

And who is? Yingluck and Thaksin? LOL! Thailand is not a democracy. It is a Constitutional Monarchy... Are there any true democracies in the world?

Edited February 18, 2012 by Jimi007

[nurofiend]

And who is? Yingluck and Thaksin? LOL!

no

but this thread isn't about them is it...

[rubl]

it's also hypocritical for a man who was openly calling for a prime minister to be given office without any civilian or government input, to be championing democracy with the likes of her.

From the link you provided later

"Democrat Party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva called on Thaksin to quit and asked HM the King to appoint a new prime minister and Cabinet to end the current crisis.

The Democrat's call for royal intervention followed similar calls from academics, activists and other prominent figures, who see the move as a way to peacefully break the political deadlock hanging over the country."

The call for a National cabinet consisting of Academics and business figures is not a new one. In most cases it may be a temporary measure within a democratic framework with main task to enable the environment to come again to a democratically elected government. If I remember correctly (do I?) we saw similar calls in 2010.

[nurofiend]

it's also hypocritical for a man who was openly calling for a prime minister to be given office without any civilian or government input, to be championing democracy with the likes of her.

From the link you provided later

"Democrat Party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva called on Thaksin to quit and asked HM the King to appoint a new prime minister and Cabinet to end the current crisis.

The Democrat's call for royal intervention followed similar calls from academics, activists and other prominent figures, who see the move as a way to peacefully break the political deadlock hanging over the country."

The call for a National cabinet consisting of Academics and business figures is not a new one. In most cases it may be a temporary measure within a democratic framework with main task to enable the environment to come again to a democratically elected government. If I remember correctly (do I?) we saw similar calls in 2010.

whatever your point is rubl... that it was a good call??? it certainly didn't go down too well at the time.

[rubl]

it's also hypocritical for a man who was openly calling for a prime minister to be given office without any civilian or government input, to be championing democracy with the likes of her.

From the link you provided later

"Democrat Party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva called on Thaksin to quit and asked HM the King to appoint a new prime minister and Cabinet to end the current crisis.

The Democrat's call for royal intervention followed similar calls from academics, activists and other prominent figures, who see the move as a way to peacefully break the political deadlock hanging over the country."

The call for a National cabinet consisting of Academics and business figures is not a new one. In most cases it may be a temporary measure within a democratic framework with main task to enable the environment to come again to a democratically elected government. If I remember correctly (do I?) we saw similar calls in 2010.

whatever your point is rubl... that it was a good call??? it certainly didn't go down too well at the time.

My point is that whatever sideways some posters may think necessay to bring across whatever point they try to push, the OP is

"Thai Opposition Leader Abhisit Meets With Aung San Suu Kyi"

[animatic]

Wow. This chap is desperate for anything that can refurbish his image. Considering his cosy relationship with Thailand's previous military junta it is a laughable event. This will make for an embarrassing photo-op.

What cosy relationship did he have with the coup government?

He's the opposition leader and the previous PM. What's wrong with him visiting politicians from neighboring countries?

Not a thing.

[nurofiend]

it's also hypocritical for a man who was openly calling for a prime minister to be given office without any civilian or government input, to be championing democracy with the likes of her.

From the link you provided later

"Democrat Party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva called on Thaksin to quit and asked HM the King to appoint a new prime minister and Cabinet to end the current crisis.

The Democrat's call for royal intervention followed similar calls from academics, activists and other prominent figures, who see the move as a way to peacefully break the political deadlock hanging over the country."

The call for a National cabinet consisting of Academics and business figures is not a new one. In most cases it may be a temporary measure within a democratic framework with main task to enable the environment to come again to a democratically elected government. If I remember correctly (do I?) we saw similar calls in 2010.

whatever your point is rubl... that it was a good call??? it certainly didn't go down too well at the time.

My point is that whatever sideways some posters may think necessay to bring across whatever point they try to push, the OP is

"Thai Opposition Leader Abhisit Meets With Aung San Suu Kyi"

that's your point now, but there wasn't a hint of that in your last post.

talking about abhisit's history of democracy in a thread about abhisit meeting someone who's well known for their fight for democracy is relevant.

crying off topic when something you don't like (due to your leanings) appears in a thread seems to be a personal trait of yours.

[rubl]

Just to put things a little bit into perspective

On the evening of 13 November 2010, Aung San Suu Kyi was released from house arrest. On 21 December 2011, Thai Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra met Suu Kyi in Yangoon, becoming Suu Kyi's first-ever meeting with the leader of a foreign country after her release from house arrest.

I think we can excuse former PM Abhisit for having been too busy with protests and eventually the dissolution of House following by new General Elections, to pay a courtesy visit to the lady. As PM he couldn't pay a visit before the lady was release from house arrest, the Myanmar generals wouldn't have allowed it and it would have compromised both Thailands and the lady's position.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aung_San_Suu_Kyi

[animatic]

it's also hypocritical for a man who was openly calling for a prime minister to be given office without any civilian or government input, to be championing democracy with the likes of her.

From the link you provided later

"Democrat Party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva called on Thaksin to quit and asked HM the King to appoint a new prime minister and Cabinet to end the current crisis.

The Democrat's call for royal intervention followed similar calls from academics, activists and other prominent figures, who see the move as a way to peacefully break the political deadlock hanging over the country."

The call for a National cabinet consisting of Academics and business figures is not a new one. In most cases it may be a temporary measure within a democratic framework with main task to enable the environment to come again to a democratically elected government. If I remember correctly (do I?) we saw similar calls in 2010.

whatever your point is rubl... that it was a good call??? it certainly didn't go down too well at the time.

It was one proposal among many made at that time because the country was in uncharted waters constitutionally, as to how to proceed. But Thaksin represented moves that were far from what the charter represented.

Did it go that way no, but it was legitimately discussed by many.

Thaksin DID resign,

and then unilaterally took back the PM chair, and was never reconfirmed by the King,

because Thaksin did not request a meeting and ask to be installed for a second caretaker term.

From that point on Thaksin was going against the 1997 constitution,

and so against the will of the people as embodied by said constitution.

Regardless of if Abhisit was voted into the PM chair by MPs,

they were MP's voted into THEIR seats by the people,

after the people voted on the 2007 charter by 70%

There is not cogent argument against Abhisit visiting Ms. Aung San Suu Kyi

because his personal actions in becoming PM were actual MORE legal by Thailands laws

than Thaksins were taking back the PM seat after resigning.

Edited February 18, 2012 by animatic

[rubl]

begin removed ...

crying off topic when something you don't like (due to your leanings) appears in a thread seems to be a personal trait of yours.

Not at all, dear chap. Only when confronted with BS, bovine excrement, nightsoil of a well-fed male oxen and the like. Tally ho, IMHO and all that.

[nurofiend]

it's also hypocritical for a man who was openly calling for a prime minister to be given office without any civilian or government input, to be championing democracy with the likes of her.

From the link you provided later

"Democrat Party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva called on Thaksin to quit and asked HM the King to appoint a new prime minister and Cabinet to end the current crisis.

The Democrat's call for royal intervention followed similar calls from academics, activists and other prominent figures, who see the move as a way to peacefully break the political deadlock hanging over the country."

The call for a National cabinet consisting of Academics and business figures is not a new one. In most cases it may be a temporary measure within a democratic framework with main task to enable the environment to come again to a democratically elected government. If I remember correctly (do I?) we saw similar calls in 2010.

whatever your point is rubl... that it was a good call??? it certainly didn't go down too well at the time.

It was one proposal among many made at that time because the country was in uncharted waters constitutionally,as to how to proceed. But Thaksin represented moves that were far from what the charter represented.

Did it go that way no, but it was legitimately discussed by many.

Thaksin DID resign,

and then unilaterally took back the PM chair, and was never reconfirmed by the King,

because Thaksin did not request a meeting and ask to be installed for a second caretaker term.

From that point on Thaksin was going against the 1997 constitution,

and so against the will of the people as embodied by said constitution.

well it was definitely a proposal that was addressed.

[nurofiend]

begin removed ...

crying off topic when something you don't like (due to your leanings) appears in a thread seems to be a personal trait of yours.

Not at all, dear chap. Only when confronted with BS, bovine excrement, nightsoil of a well-fed male oxen and the like. Tally ho, IMHO and all that.

well there was no bs in what i said so...