News_Editor Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 UN calls on Israel to release Palestinian prisoner on hunger strike 2012-02-21 20:10:21 GMT+7 (ICT) RAMALLAH/GENEVA (BNO NEWS) -- The United Nations Special Rapporteur on the situation of human rights in the Palestinian territories, Richard Falk, on Tuesday urged the Israeli government to release Palestinian prisoner Khader Adnan who is being held without charges. Adnan, a leader in the Islamic Jihad, was detained in December 2011 near the northern West Bank city of Jenin and has been held since without charges. An Israeli military court previously sentenced the 33-year-old to four months in administrative detention and upheld his detention order after rejecting an appeal. Tuesday marked the 66th day of Adnan's hunger strike, which he began a day after his arrest on December 17. "I am informed that Mr. Adnan's health has already suffered irreparable damage, he is in jeopardy of dying at any moment," Falk said at the end of a 10-day fact-finding mission to the region. "I reiterate my call on the Government of Israel to uphold Mr. Adnan's rights, taking full account of the extreme urgency of the situation." According to the United Nations, there are an estimated 4,400 Palestinian detainees in Israeli prisons, including approximately 300 Palestinians who are detained without charges under the label of so-called administrative detention. "I have requested information regarding each of these persons, and I intend to follow up on each case and address this matter in my forthcoming report to the Human Rights Council," Falk said. Falk's call to free Adnan immediately comes amid media reports that Israel may be close to releasing him. One of Adnan's lawyer was quoted as saying by Al Jazeera that Israel has agreed to free him, but gave no details. It came hours before the supreme court is to hear an urgent appeal for his release. Adnan said he will continue the hunger strike, the longest ever in the history of Palestinian prisoners in Israeli jails, until his release. -- © BNO News All rights reserved 2012-02-21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 "A leader in the Islamic Jihad". No sympathy for this violent terrorist. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geriatrickid Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 He's the one not eating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Richard Falk as per usual shows concern for the well being of terrorists who target civilians than he does for innocent civilians themselves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundee48 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 (edited) What a brilliant idea.If this strategy works look out for 4400 prisoners starting hunger strike tomorrow. Edited February 21, 2012 by metisdead Please don't post using bold font, use the default forum font when posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurofiend Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 jailing people without charge is nothing to be defending. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 (edited) Wonderful wishes for the Palestinian nationalist movement: 1. Give up antisemitism; it may have been in the roots of the movement but it doesn't have to be destiny 2. Give up the idea of unconditional right of return (you can't get everything you dream of) 3. Embrace the idea of the two state solution (so much better than no state) 4. Accept the existence of the Jewish state of Israel (who knows, in peace time they may be wonderful partners, they already love falafel) 5. Forget violent resistance. Embrace non-violent resistance. 6. Prepare to celebrate a fully official new state of Palestine within a year Edited February 21, 2012 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurofiend Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Wonderful wishes for the Palestinian nationalist movement: 1. Give up antisemitism; it may have been in the roots of the movement but it doesn't have to be destiny 2. Give up the idea of unconditional right of return (you can't get everything you dream of) 3. Embrace the idea of the two state solution (so much better than no state) 4. Accept the existence of the Jewish state of Israel (who knows, in peace time they may be wonderful partners, they already love falafel) 5. Forget violent resistance. Embrace non-violent resistance. 6. Prepare to celebrate a fully official new state of Palestine within a year out of interest, what would be your wonderful wishes for the israeli government? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 (edited) Wonderful wishes for the Palestinian nationalist movement: 1. Give up antisemitism; it may have been in the roots of the movement but it doesn't have to be destiny 2. Give up the idea of unconditional right of return (you can't get everything you dream of) 3. Embrace the idea of the two state solution (so much better than no state) 4. Accept the existence of the Jewish state of Israel (who knows, in peace time they may be wonderful partners, they already love falafel) 5. Forget violent resistance. Embrace non-violent resistance. 6. Prepare to celebrate a fully official new state of Palestine within a year out of interest, what would be your wonderful wishes for the israeli government? Israel already has a state. I wish them to be able to keep it. In the long run, that means peace with the Palestinians. If the Palestinians followed my list, there would be no stopping them and they would break down even the most right wing factions in Israel. Edited February 21, 2012 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurofiend Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Wonderful wishes for the Palestinian nationalist movement: 1. Give up antisemitism; it may have been in the roots of the movement but it doesn't have to be destiny 2. Give up the idea of unconditional right of return (you can't get everything you dream of) 3. Embrace the idea of the two state solution (so much better than no state) 4. Accept the existence of the Jewish state of Israel (who knows, in peace time they may be wonderful partners, they already love falafel) 5. Forget violent resistance. Embrace non-violent resistance. 6. Prepare to celebrate a fully official new state of Palestine within a year out of interest, what would be your wonderful wishes for the israeli government? Israel already has a state. I wish them to be able to keep it. In the long run, that means peace with the Palestinians. translation : nothing they are doing is causing any of the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 (edited) Wonderful wishes for the Palestinian nationalist movement: 1. Give up antisemitism; it may have been in the roots of the movement but it doesn't have to be destiny 2. Give up the idea of unconditional right of return (you can't get everything you dream of) 3. Embrace the idea of the two state solution (so much better than no state) 4. Accept the existence of the Jewish state of Israel (who knows, in peace time they may be wonderful partners, they already love falafel) 5. Forget violent resistance. Embrace non-violent resistance. 6. Prepare to celebrate a fully official new state of Palestine within a year out of interest, what would be your wonderful wishes for the israeli government? Israel already has a state. I wish them to be able to keep it. In the long run, that means peace with the Palestinians. translation : nothing they are doing is causing any of the problem That's your translation. Predictably so. Did you even read my list? I said they need to do nonviolent resistance. Obviously there is something to resist against. I reckon you're talking about west bank settlements. Trust me, if the Israeli public was convinced that list was happening they'd be moving to kick out those settlers tomorrow. Yes of course its all related. Edited February 21, 2012 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurofiend Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 That's your translation. Predictably so. Did you even read my list? I said they need to do nonviolent resistance. Obviously there is something to resist against. I reckon you're talking about west bank settlements. Trust me, if the Israeli public was convinced that list was happening they'd be moving to kick out those settlers tomorrow. Yes of course its all related. my point is surely there's some sort of a list of things that israel could change or do better to help the situation but of course you wouldn't do a list of them. so yes, of course it was a predictable translation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 That's your translation. Predictably so. Did you even read my list? I said they need to do nonviolent resistance. Obviously there is something to resist against. I reckon you're talking about west bank settlements. Trust me, if the Israeli public was convinced that list was happening they'd be moving to kick out those settlers tomorrow. Yes of course its all related. my point is surely there's some sort of a list of things that israel could change or do better to help the situation but of course you wouldn't do a list of them. so yes, of course it was a predictable translation... I know of nothing Israel could possibly do to change the majority Palestinian public opinion demanding the entirety of Israel for them and refusing to accept the existence of Israel. That's why no list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurofiend Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 That's your translation. Predictably so. Did you even read my list? I said they need to do nonviolent resistance. Obviously there is something to resist against. I reckon you're talking about west bank settlements. Trust me, if the Israeli public was convinced that list was happening they'd be moving to kick out those settlers tomorrow. Yes of course its all related. my point is surely there's some sort of a list of things that israel could change or do better to help the situation but of course you wouldn't do a list of them. so yes, of course it was a predictable translation... I know of nothing Israel could possibly do to change the majority Palestinian public opinion demanding the entirety of Israel for them and refusing to accept the existence of Israel. That's why no list. so there's absolutely no point in compromising anything whatsoever from israels side, great stance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 That's your translation. Predictably so. Did you even read my list? I said they need to do nonviolent resistance. Obviously there is something to resist against. I reckon you're talking about west bank settlements. Trust me, if the Israeli public was convinced that list was happening they'd be moving to kick out those settlers tomorrow. Yes of course its all related. my point is surely there's some sort of a list of things that israel could change or do better to help the situation but of course you wouldn't do a list of them. so yes, of course it was a predictable translation... I know of nothing Israel could possibly do to change the majority Palestinian public opinion demanding the entirety of Israel for them and refusing to accept the existence of Israel. That's why no list. so there's absolutely no point in compromising anything whatsoever from israels side, great stance. I didn't say that. Negotiations should happen, two way street. But peace is very hard when one side demands it all and uses genocidal rhetoric, like Hamas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurofiend Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 I didn't say that. Negotiations should happen, two way street. But peace is very hard when one side demands it all and uses genocidal rhetoric, like Hamas. indeed, but all i was originally asking for in the very first post is the things that israel could also do, that's all. i'm neither anti-israel or anti-palestine, i do think a fair two state solution is the only possible solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 I didn't say that. Negotiations should happen, two way street. But peace is very hard when one side demands it all and uses genocidal rhetoric, like Hamas. indeed, but all i was originally asking for in the very first post is the things that israel could also do, that's all. i'm neither anti-israel or anti-palestine, i do think a fair two state solution is the only possible solution. Given the current political realities, I don't know if a two state solution is even POSSIBLE anymore, but I share that goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopnarak Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 I didn't say that. Negotiations should happen, two way street. But peace is very hard when one side demands it all and uses genocidal rhetoric, like Hamas. indeed, but all i was originally asking for in the very first post is the things that israel could also do, that's all. i'm neither anti-israel or anti-palestine, i do think a fair two state solution is the only possible solution. An one state solution would be much better. That would really mean peace and end of all problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 I didn't say that. Negotiations should happen, two way street. But peace is very hard when one side demands it all and uses genocidal rhetoric, like Hamas. indeed, but all i was originally asking for in the very first post is the things that israel could also do, that's all. i'm neither anti-israel or anti-palestine, i do think a fair two state solution is the only possible solution. An one state solution would be much better. That would really mean peace and end of all problems. One state would mean the end of the Jewish state of Israel. That will never be acceptable to Israel in a negotiation. It may happen by losing a war though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flying Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 (edited) *Deleted quote edited out* You have to look at the neighborhood they want to plop themselves into.... Then add to that their own behavior......They should take a long hard look in the mirror That may explain a lot of the so called persecution they feel. You say they should be allowed to exist unchallenged & I agree but Israel is the biggest hater of such unchallenged co-existence. Always claiming they are somehow being denied the right to exists while claiming false translations of how others want to wipe them out.... Yet these others have not attacked another country ion over 200 years....In the most recent case... This is Iran of course I am speaking of & now Israel is planning to generate ever more karma/persecution which will follow them for ever more centuries as you mentioned. Live & let live is what Israel needs to learn.....Not wild claims of how they will be wiped out if the do not FIRST wipe out/control others Edited February 21, 2012 by Scott edited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Off topic posts deleted. The thread is about a person who is jailed without charges and is on a hunger strike. The UN has requested his release. Stick to the topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pakboong Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 I didn't say that. Negotiations should happen, two way street. But peace is very hard when one side demands it all and uses genocidal rhetoric, like Hamas. indeed, but all i was originally asking for in the very first post is the things that israel could also do, that's all. i'm neither anti-israel or anti-palestine, i do think a fair two state solution is the only possible solution. An one state solution would be much better. That would really mean peace and end of all problems. One state would mean the end of the Jewish state of Israel. That will never be acceptable to Israel in a negotiation. It may happen by losing a war though. The mere notion that "not acceptable to Israel" and on the other side of the negotiations, "not acceptable to Palestine" seem to be the flies in the ointment. Who is going to step up and compromise? A rhetorical question with two answers is a tough nut to crack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopnarak Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 According to the United Nations, there are an estimated 4,400 Palestinian detainees in Israeli prisons, including approximately 300 Palestinians who are detained without charges under the label of so-called administrative detention. "I have requested information regarding each of these persons, and I intend to follow up on each case and address this matter in my forthcoming report to the Human Rights Council," Falk said. Brave man. He has my full support. If that are cases of human rights violation those responsible for it must be exposed and "the world" (UN) has to speak and stand up against them. A support by the International community can work wonders. The imprisoned baker Khader Adnan could be become a future president of a Palestinian republic with al-Quds as capital just like the former apartheid prisoner Mandela became the president. Lets hope for peaceful future like that without any questionable and arbitrarily detention of Palestinian people anymore. They deserve the right of peace and freedom like anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Most people on this board won't recognize al-Quds. He speaks of Jerusalem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Yai Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 According to the United Nations, there are an estimated 4,400 Palestinian detainees in Israeli prisons, including approximately 300 Palestinians who are detained without charges under the label of so-called administrative detention. "I have requested information regarding each of these persons, and I intend to follow up on each case and address this matter in my forthcoming report to the Human Rights Council," Falk said. Brave man. He has my full support. If that are cases of human rights violation those responsible for it must be exposed and "the world" (UN) has to speak and stand up against them. A support by the International community can work wonders. The imprisoned baker Khader Adnan could be become a future president of a Palestinian republic with al-Quds as capital just like the former apartheid prisoner Mandela became the president. Lets hope for peaceful future like that without any questionable and arbitrarily detention of Palestinian people anymore. They deserve the right of peace and freedom like anyone else. Mandala could have been released from Prison years before his eventual freedom if he renounced Violence, something which he never he never did., check it out then get back to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Actually, don't get back to him. The topic isn't about Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 (edited) Please stop with the fabrication that the history of South Africa and Eretz Israel are similar. That is typical demonize Israel propaganda. Did the Dutch and English have an ancient civilization in Capetown? Did the Christian religion originate in Joburg? Have Dutch and English lived in region for thousands of years? Would Mandella in WW2 have moved to Berlin and lobbied for all Dutch and English in Europe to be sent to death camps? Did Mandella's movement include an ideology (such as the Palestinians Hamas) to kill or kick out all the Dutch and English in S.A.? While there is legitimate basis to the colonialist critiques of how Europeanized Jews developed Israel, the special ties of the Jewish people throughout the ages to the land of Israel is not under debate. Anyone with basic understanding of the Jewish experience, knows the phrase -- Next year in Jerusalem. Edited February 22, 2012 by Jingthing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flying Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 (edited) Mandala could have been released from Prison years before his eventual freedom if he renounced Violence, something which he never he never did., check it out then get back to me! No need to check anything before getting back to you............What you & many others like to do is chop up a statement & use what suits your twist.... In 1985 South African President Botha offered Mandela freedom if he would renounce violence....Mandela responded that he would not do so before the government dismantled apartheid & granted full rights to Black South Africans. So the reality of your partial statement is like saying Abe Lincoln would not stop the violence of the civil war..... Edited February 22, 2012 by flying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Asked and responded to. Finished? If you wish to draw a parallel between people, then at least link them to other person. AGAIN, NOT ABOUT MANDELA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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