farangme Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Wife just got her American drivers license. Bought her a mini, which fits her well. Very fun, zippy car. Her friends here and back home are envious. Mini's are inexpensive here in America. Anyone know why the are so pricey in TL? Posted with Thaivisa App http://apps.thaivisa.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpSpeed Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 (edited) Taxes....Next.... Edited February 25, 2012 by WarpSpeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Taxes....Next.... And a BMW ''mini'' is NOT a mini. Next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farangme Posted February 25, 2012 Author Share Posted February 25, 2012 Obviously the taxes...duh...but I thought they applied the high tax rate to luxury cars and cars with large engines, neither of which is a mini. Sorry...was looking for a more informed response. Posted with Thaivisa App http://apps.thaivisa.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpSpeed Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 (edited) Obviously the taxes...duh...but I thought they applied the high tax rate to luxury cars and cars with large engines, neither of which is a mini. Sorry...was looking for a more informed response. Posted with Thaivisa App http://apps.thaivisa.com Duh?? You asked and I answered why the smart a$% reply?? Apparently since the only other response you got was an agreement with an inclusion it must have been pretty well informed but Ok then the car is an import NOT manufactured in Thailand so the TAXES are very high and it has duty added too, comprehensive enough for you? Imports back in the states do not carry the import and duties anywhere close to what they do here in Thailand and many more models and brands are manufacturered there.. Edited February 25, 2012 by WarpSpeed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve187 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Cars that do not have a close connection to Thailand, either manufactured here, or a local import, ie most European cars suffer a huge import tax, something like 200%, no doubt someone will come along with exact figures and vehicles, but in layman's terms that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farangme Posted February 25, 2012 Author Share Posted February 25, 2012 Duh because taxes and duties are obvious. Was looking for the reason behind it, i.e. ALL imports now have excessive duties/taxes, non-Asean trade agreements, etc. Years ago these high fees only applied to specific imports like luxury and performance cars, not inexpensive econo cars with small engines. Was curious what the current criteria was that commanded a doubling/tripling in price. As I've been asked by many Thais, thought it would be nice to explain why other than 'taxes'. Posted with Thaivisa App http://apps.thaivisa.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farangme Posted February 25, 2012 Author Share Posted February 25, 2012 Thanks Steve Posted with Thaivisa App http://apps.thaivisa.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janverbeem Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Duh because taxes and duties are obvious. Was looking for the reason behind it, i.e. ALL imports now have excessive duties/taxes, non-Asean trade agreements, etc. Years ago these high fees only applied to specific imports like luxury and performance cars, not inexpensive econo cars with small engines. Was curious what the current criteria was that commanded a doubling/tripling in price. As I've been asked by many Thais, thought it would be nice to explain why other than 'taxes'. Posted with Thaivisa App http://apps.thaivisa.com New cars have always been subject to over 200% import duty's, I think it is even closer to 300%, no distiction made between luxury or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Their are significant differences in tax rates for different models, configurations and engine displacements. I think the taxes are particularly high on the Mini because it is considered a sports car, which (I think) is one of if not the highest duty classification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farangme Posted February 25, 2012 Author Share Posted February 25, 2012 Thanks Dave. The sports car classification could account for the two million baht price in TL, even though its only 600,000 in America. Funny how the Jazz, Corolla, Mazda2, and such all are in the same range as the mini in the US. The mini is the funnest in this group. But a sports car? Driving it takes me back to my first car...a used brown 1973 Honda Civic...but obviously light years ahead in terms of technology. Even has interior mood lighting. Posted with Thaivisa App http://apps.thaivisa.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpSpeed Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Duh, well you certainly got much different answers from the rest then you did from me. You're welcome... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonRiverOasis Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Warp answered right: Taxes http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/435479-taxes-on-cars-in-thailand/ There's no special taxes for a sports cars or Mini's BTW 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farangme Posted February 26, 2012 Author Share Posted February 26, 2012 Thanks. Was looking for the details rather than just 'taxes'. Posted with Thaivisa App http://apps.thaivisa.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpSpeed Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 (edited) Thanks. Was looking for the details rather than just 'taxes'. Posted with Thaivisa App http://apps.thaivisa.com But there's no simple straight forward answer to your question as was displayed which is WHY I summarized. Even when you're told the answer was correct if not brief, you still ramble on insisting otherwise.. As MRO also mentioned there is no special taxes related to it being considered a sports car either.. Which was the alternate explanation you ultimately opted for so share that info with your Thai friends and look the right fool.. Edited February 26, 2012 by WarpSpeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farangme Posted February 26, 2012 Author Share Posted February 26, 2012 I'd say you look the fool warpy as you continue to reply to something to which you continue to add no further value. A one word response for something that is conviluded and complex, like auto import duty variances, is a condescending, smart a## response. If that is the extent of your value to add and you get so obviously insulted that you weren't treated as a wise old sage, well don't respond. Some of us look to obtain more substantive knowledge than the superficial obvious. A response like "taxes...next..." is just plain lame. No further replies desired from you please. You're obviously a very busy and important man. Time to feed your cat... Posted with Thaivisa App http://apps.thaivisa.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kartman Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 (edited) Apart from the obvious BMW like to use their "image"to rip off Thai customers, is that the answer you want?. Edited February 26, 2012 by kartman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farangme Posted February 26, 2012 Author Share Posted February 26, 2012 Don't see the BMW thing as any different than Lexus, Mercedes, etc, etc. Doubt most Thais even know mini is owned by BMW. They are impressed by anything expensive. The fact it looks unique and 'cute' adds further desirability for them. Regardless, don't see what this has to do with the Thai price unless dealers add 1.5 million to the price for cuteness. Posted with Thaivisa App http://apps.thaivisa.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madjbs Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Its actually very simple. Minis are imported, therefore they incur import tax, which is very large, which means the sale price is very high. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kartman Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Don't see the BMW thing as any different than Lexus, Mercedes, etc, etc. Doubt most Thais even know mini is owned by BMW. They are impressed by anything expensive. The fact it looks unique and 'cute' adds further desirability for them. Regardless, don't see what this has to do with the Thai price unless dealers add 1.5 million to the price for cuteness. Posted with Thaivisa App http://apps.thaivisa.com Most Thais don't buy Mini's. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farangme Posted February 26, 2012 Author Share Posted February 26, 2012 Because at Thai prices they're an impractical luxury. I leased one for my wife here in the US because they were offering a great inexpensive lease deal. Have a Vios in TL. I wouldn't pay for any import in TL at those absurd mark up prices. Posted with Thaivisa App http://apps.thaivisa.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kartman Posted February 27, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2012 So what is/was the point of this thread?. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Watched a motoring program the other night and it had a thing on the BMW ''mini''. The bloke kept mentioning John Cooper, which is where the Cooper in Mini Cooper comes from. I was a bit pissed off cos the BMW ''mini'' has absolutely nothing in common with the original BMC Mini. All it has is a couple of retro similarities in the cockpit and the rest is just a small BMW car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpSpeed Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 (edited) Its actually very simple. Minis are imported, therefore they incur import tax, which is very large, which means the sale price is very high. It's only simple to thinking people like you and everyone else except the OP...I said the same thing and my original response was spot on and as brief and to the point as I could make it and now it's a smart a!$ answer to the a$........erm......... OP........... You just can't help some people.... JFYI OP based on the responses you've gotten thus far it would seem your opinion of my response and me looking the fool has fallen on blind eyes as it's certain many of these members would not pass up the chance to lambaste me if it applied but instead have reinforced my position on your thread and responses. So, you could have the character to make it right and move on OR you could just continue to look the fool.. Up to you... I find myself smiling at the irony here as usually I'm lambasted for long convoluted responses. Now I write a 2 word answer and look what happens?? Edited February 27, 2012 by WarpSpeed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyaussie Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Would I be correct in saying that all cars in USA are cheaper than elsewhere? Suppose it's to do with volume. 2012 Porsche 911Carrerra S costs $263,000 in Australia and I'm pretty sure they're under $100,000 in the US. When Australia was going to export it's Commodore to the states as a Pontiac G8. It was going to be $10,000 cheaper than Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpSpeed Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Would I be correct in saying that all cars in USA are cheaper than elsewhere? Suppose it's to do with volume. 2012 Porsche 911Carrerra S costs $263,000 in Australia and I'm pretty sure they're under $100,000 in the US. When Australia was going to export it's Commodore to the states as a Pontiac G8. It was going to be $10,000 cheaper than Australia. You'd not be very far off if there are any that are more expensive it'd be a rare bird at least where the common everyday car is concerned if you left out the exotics.. Of course if you had to buy a grey market to DOT conversion that would probably run you a buck or 2 more then some places like Europe for example.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparebox2 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 The mini in Thailand is for the super rich. Most Thai settle for the look alike. The Suzuki Swift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 The mini in Thailand is for the super rich. Most Thai settle for the look alike. The Suzuki Swift. The BMW mini in LOS is for the super stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farangme Posted February 27, 2012 Author Share Posted February 27, 2012 Thanks MRO for the reply with the link to the previous thread that laid out the details re: import duties. Very informative. Posted with Thaivisa App http://apps.thaivisa.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Thanks MRO for the reply with the link to the previous thread that laid out the details re: import duties. Very informative. Posted with Thaivisa App http://apps.thaivisa.com Ditto that, great information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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