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Dealing With The Stigma Of Having A Thai Gf In Homeland?


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You sir, deserve a nice cold beer. You are not only an officer, but a Gentleman as well. I bid you good day, Sir. Spot on.

Thanks. Nice of you to say.

I like draft John Courage lol. I've been wondering if there is any in all of Thailand.

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Hi Ruperts,

I also dealt with this when i was the same age as you (now 40), at first I couldnt really deal wth it and everywhere i went with my GF/wife (we are still married) I thought people were looking at us and talking about us.

But that was just it, I THOUGHT IT! The majority was in my head, I had a pre concived notion that this was going to happen, that everyone would think I had bought a Thai wife. i used to recount the story to everyone that would listen of how we met, so that everyone we knew and even people we didnt, knew I didnt meet her in a bar in Bangkok whilst on holiday.

I was in the RAF then and yeah, I got some comments from the lads and at first got annoyed, fustrated and wound so tight I exploded in a fist of fury style rampage whilst on exercise and subsequently was sent home.

It was at this point that I realise that the problem and the cause of the problem was infact me. I was the one letting myself get in such a state when in reality it didnt matter, I didnt marry her because she was Thai, I married her because I loved her, so realisedf it only mattered what I, my wife and our familes thought. We lived in the UK for 12years after that, only moving here to Bangkok for work and to be honest we both miss the UK like crazy.

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I think the OP just feels conscious that the white folks think he's got himself a mail order bride. Although I realise that there are still bigots left in the UK, I doubt very much that everyone in his neck of the woods is so inclined.

The guy just suffers from low self-esteem - the type that probably brought him to Thailand in the first place looking for the sexual success that may have eluded him in Blighty. He probably looks at himself, feels that he's not in the same league as his GF in terms of aesthetics and concludes that everyone else is making the same judgment too. Of course, in some instances, that may actually be the case but what's the alternative; hooking up with a pale, corned beef-legged English lass??

The guy should've thought about this before he brought her back to the UK but if he doesn't deal with his inferiority complex sharpish, chances are that a guy with gumption will prise her from his side while he's using the toilet.

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Ask yourself a simple question:

If you'd be single again, would you want to have the kind of girlfriends/wives your fellow countrymen have? Lookwise and about attitude?

Then you know why the men envy you and the women hate you.

Regard yourself happy you had a choice!

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Yes, I agree many people in the UK think that all Thai girls are b/g, but that is their problem, ignore them, get on with your life

it's what you know and think that is important, maybe they are jealous that you have a beautiful g/f.

On a side issue, I'v been told by a few Thai's, that they also think that when they see a Thai girl with a Farang male,she

must be b/g, age and looks do not come into it, it's just an assumption they automatically make. Probably right approx 85%

of the time,but the other 15% they are wrong, and most will admit it.

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Easy to write, but harder to do. Yes, you just need to get over it. You probably are ashamed of your wife, at least in part, despite your love for her, and that is niggling at the back of your head. Maybe it will take therapy to get over that.

In the US, I have not really seen any negative reaction when I have been there with a Thai woman. But as a retired Marine, yes, I did see the looks around Navy or Marine bases when a man was with a Filipina, or around Air Force or Army bases when the woman was Korean. The assumption was that all the women were bargirls, and yes, comments were even made. In talking with the men, some men couldn't take it and divorced. But the ones who were successful in their marriages were the ones who could just shrug it off and say to heck with them all. What mattered was their own happiness.

It didn't seem to matter if the woman used to be a bargirl or not. What mattered was the husband's ability to ignore any negative reaction and just focus on the good.

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I have never taken my Thai wife to the US, but I don't think Americans know much about Thai people. They are very naive so they probably think they are Chinese or something.

Maybe you are from the UK and people know more about the reputation of that area of the planet.

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My social life is now almost non-existant because I don't want to go out and meet people and then have to watch their faces react when they find out my gf is Thai.

Why would you want to go out and make new friends with racists anyways? Whether you had a Thai girlfriend or not...or would you normally be hanging out with the racist crowd?

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I have had situations like the OP where we have got looks but I take it as a compliment, I am 38 and she is 25 so no massive age difference but yes we do get it too when out and about in Essex which is not exactly 100% white(more orange/fake tan)...not so long ago we was in my local for a few beers and when we left a group of blokes said something and there was wolf whistles etc....I just turned round and blew them a kiss and gave them a cheeky wink... it's when people don't look or look down at the floor is when you got to worry....

No point trying to put everyone right...you'll never win.

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Maybe if you used a different word than stigma, you would find it easier to come to a happier conclusion.

Try "joy", or "romance", or "infatuation" - or "novelty" if you feel you must take some account of those around you.

Or "prurience".

My favourite, though, would be "dealing with the pantechnicon of having a Thia girlfriend", though I would struggle to find a sensible explanation of what it might mean. Its probably a metaphor.

When you say "in Homeland" I assume you mean in Homeland Security. I imagine your colleagues there might raise a quizzical eyebrow...

SC

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I really donot undestand the problem. If you love her I feel you should be with her when out in public not with the strangers around you at the time.If you love her, then her happiness and comfort should be first and foremost. With that in mind when in public if you are helping her with her english you should do it with pleasure knowing it is showing her that you care for her wherever you are together and that she is the most important person for you in the room. Keep in mind after you are home out of the public eye it is her you live with not the strangers you were afraid might judge you.

Support her emotionally, she may feel very alone in a foreign country,without family and friends from her homeland.

I feel you should look at the reasons you feel the way you do.

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You could have a bit of a laugh about it all . When you are introducing your nearest and dearest to your work mates or in a restaurant where you feel all are looking on disaprovingly , get her to talk in a really deep voice . You know , like " Pass me the salt teelak " , but in a gruff man's voice .

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And if i walked into a hotel and the staff told me i had to pay extra for my wife ,i would book out instantly .

we have stayed in hotels all over Thailand and this has NEVER EVER happened

Well, you're in your eighties and your better half in her fifties . . . that does make a difference in the staff's attitude.

Let's also not forget that hotels are required by law to get details of people 'staying' at their premises and moaning about it is ridiculous

Well i have heard it all now ,in my 80s god i look good for my age ,no a long way to go to get into my 80s but hope i do , and i was not refering to my wife checking in as you well know ,we were discussing the fact that the staff had assumed that his wife was a bar girl and wanted more money for her ,this has never happened ,i presume they take us as a married couple ,mind you if you book in alone and then turn up that night with a young girl in a short skirt a tatoo and a boob tube they may ask for a further fee and her identity card .

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I think you are being cruel to your GF.

I also think you are being gently treated by my esteemed colleagues here.

I don't think you mean to be cruel to your GF. So here is what I would do. I would take pride in her, I would show I was proud of her. I would take her everywhere, and let her talk like a budgie on speed.

If you don't look after this lady you will regret this act of emotional cowardice for the rest of your life.

I don't think you are an emotional coward.

Good luck.

I retract what I said about my esteemed colleagues being nice to you biggrin.png

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How odd! Why should you even be thinking about what other people might or might not think. I took my wife (22 years younger than me) back to Spain along with our daughter of 2 at the time, and I can't remember a day in the two years there when ether of us felt uncomfortable when out and about, same here. At our local Chinese restaurant the staff kept coming up to her and talking in Chinese for the first couple of visits but soon came to realize she did not speak there language. Had one or two nice comments from people saying our daughter looked so beautiful, she is too. So why give it a second thought, unless you feel you are out of order.

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It has got nothing to do with your girl being Asian and everything to do with her being Thai.

You are embarrassed that the(present) love of your life comes from a country which many people perceive to be the World's brothel. Right?

I suggest you put these people right. Tell them where you met her, unless it was in a brothel, explain to these people who have never travelled to such a wild country what Thailand is really like, but above all be proud of your girl before you lose her to someone who would be.

If he starts to explain himself to strangers he's set himself up with a job for life. They're strangers. Their opinion doesn't count. Ignore them.

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And if i walked into a hotel and the staff told me i had to pay extra for my wife ,i would book out instantly .

we have stayed in hotels all over Thailand and this has NEVER EVER happened

admittedly in my instance this was the security guard on our 3rd day which was xmas eve - and he said no hookers allowed at the gala party. I doubt he'll make that mistake twice, my wife certainly handed him an edumacation!

6 years ago at our wedding i wondered what the response to my wife would be if we should go to England and how I would deal with that response so I get where the OP is coming from. I've walked away from far worse personally but do get punchy if people I care about are involved.

I think the OP would be surprised at all the new friends he would gain as based on comments from various sites, more than a fair few would be round attempting to shag her!

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That was the running joke amongst all of my pals biggrin.png ( yes I do have pals ).

To a man they admitted they were jealous of my beautiful Thai GF......I don't blame them cos at times I couldn't believe my luck too.

I was also lucky that she had that combination of sunshine personality and Thai temper.....she would laugh at the drop of a hat, but equally if anyone said anything out of order woe betide them, 45 kg of furious Thai female is a sight to behold.

I miss her mellow.png

No I don't.......yes I do......no I don't......oh goddammit ermm.gif

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I have never taken my Thai wife to the US, but I don't think Americans know much about Thai people. They are very naive so they probably think they are Chinese or something.

Maybe you are from the UK and people know more about the reputation of that area of the planet.

Naive? I don't think you know much about Americans. My wife and I lived in various US locations for 30 years. Never had a problem. Many cities have active Thai communities. And Thai restaurants are very popular.

What people around you care about is how you treat them. Research suggests that we overestimate how much we may be singled out and judged by others.

But, I'd be happy to tell you what I think about someone who makes inane generalizations about 300 million people.

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And if i walked into a hotel and the staff told me i had to pay extra for my wife ,i would book out instantly .

we have stayed in hotels all over Thailand and this has NEVER EVER happened

Has happened to Mrs. Rakers when we went to visit a friend at Mikes Hotel (?) in Pattaya once. They were soon sent scampering for cover.

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