Pheu Thai And Democrat Parties Locked In Legal Combat

[lovetotravel]

Talk about vote fraud, seems PTP and TRT party were also involved in this. TRT, the predecessor of the PTP was banned for bribes in an election. The Dems were also charged:

A fact-finding panel at the Attorney-General's Office found that the Democrat Party bribed other parties to boycott the 2006 parliamentary election, which forced the constitutional crisis, and voted to dissolve the party. It also found that Thaksin's Thai Rak Thai party bribed other parties to contest the election.

http://en.wikipedia...._%28Thailand%29

and of course there were many irregularities in the votes in the NE regarding the PTP:

The Election Commission said it had received 1,900 complaints of election cheating, mostly in the provincial voting strongholds of Puea Thais's "red shirt" supporters.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.a...l#ixzz1ox93Rsg5

http://www.smh.com.a...0704-1gxzv.html

This also should be discussed in terms of the money handouts in the NE to vote for the various parties. In my wife's village, only the Dems didn't hand out money. But I guessing it's because they knew they would lose anyway!! PTP had people there handing out money, as did one other party.

[CalgaryII]

The Democrats and their coalition partners (with arms behind their backs) amended the electoral format, expanding the party list representation in parliament and moving the remaining constituency seats from a multi-seat to a single-seat format. Chris Baker, a respected Bangkok analyst, said the amended system could boost Mr Abhisit's Democrats, the lead party in the governing coalition, but which has been comfortably beaten by pro-Thaksin parties in recent elections.

He said that the Democrats ''did much better last time on the party list than the territorial constituencies. Shifting seats from territorial to party list should favour them."

What has the seat changes got to do with vote rigging?

As for the Bangkok vote rigging; The exit polls ABAC; PT 299 Dusit: 313. All of the seats that happened to swing mysteriously to the Dems were in the BMA democrat stronghold. PT MPs in the last parliamentary debate openly accused the Dems of electoral fraud in BKK.

Votes are counted in front of everyone. How do you suggest that they actually rigged the votes?

Mere details and facts will never derail a good conspiracy theory.

BirdP. Has the details and listed them.

It has been a well-known fact that the BKK. vote did not go as pre-election indicators showed, and that some vote rigging and fraud ocurred to change what was firmly and confidently forecast.

[whybother]

BirdP. Has the details and listed them.

It has been a well-known fact that the BKK. vote did not go as pre-election indicators showed, and that some vote rigging and fraud ocurred to change what was firmly and confidently forecast.

Pre-election indicators didn't have the PTP winning that many seats in Bangkok. Pre-election indicators showed that the election would be close, with some showing that PTP didn't have enough support for govern in their own right.

[Buchholz]

BirdP. Has the details and listed them.

It has been a well-known fact that the BKK. vote did not go as pre-election indicators showed, and that some vote rigging and fraud ocurred to change what was firmly and confidently forecast.

Pre-election indicators didn't have the PTP winning that many seats in Bangkok. Pre-election indicators showed that the election would be close, with some showing that PTP didn't have enough support for govern in their own right.

Think of all the money that could be saved by foregoing the elections themselves because 3 months earlier an ABAC poll predicts the winner.... because we all know that ABAC polls are infallible and public opinion polls (AKA "pre-election indicators" ) never change over time.

Ultimately, they should just turn over the Election Commission duties to the students running Bangkok University polls.

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[TAWP]

BirdP. Has the details and listed them.

It has been a well-known fact that the BKK. vote did not go as pre-election indicators showed, and that some vote rigging and fraud ocurred to change what was firmly and confidently forecast.

Stating that something is a well-known fact when it isn't is a lame debate-tactic.

[Thaddeus]

BirdP. Has the details and listed them.

It has been a well-known fact that the BKK. vote did not go as pre-election indicators showed, and that some vote rigging and fraud ocurred to change what was firmly and confidently forecast.

Stating that something is a well-known fact when it isn't is a lame debate-tactic.

But it does work if you are clever preaching to the dumb.... heck, it works if you are the dumb preaching to the dumber.

[animatic]

I see tagteam BS has cranked up again.

[yoshiwara]

This electoral majority is also not beholden to the Opposition anti-Thaksin agenda.

That agenda shows more clearly than anything, the linked parrallels between this Opposition, the coupists overthrow and subsequent criminalization campaign.

Calgaryll - Just remember the oppositions anti - taksin agenda got 10 million plus votes in the last election. That may not have been enough to win, but that is a large % of the voting population. PT would do well to remember that. The fact that it is anti democracy etc. etc is irrelevant as its still a large % of the voting population.

If I'm not mistaken, PT did not get an absolute majority in the last election. They are ruling via a coalition government. And they did not "officially" run with a platform of bringing back Thaksin. That's just becoming clearer and clearer day by day.

Hopefully he comes back soon and kick some butts,then all that bullshit about suing each other will have an end,the democrats lost the last election,so they should stop destabilize the whole country with there micky mouse shit,next election will come soon,they should concentrate on that.Yingluck wants her brother comes back,so what?Half of Thai populations wants him back,he might be a selfish guy with dictator atitude ,but with him Thailand will be again on the right way,He was best PM Thailand ever had,good for thais bad for pattaya farang

He might be a selfish guy with a dictator attitude.

Aspirant dictators always attract a supine following. Democracy is merely a useful step towards that dictatorship.

And just in case you don't get the message, play the nationalist card. Red shirt turning brown.

[Thaddeus]

I see tagteam BS has cranked up again.

Amplified microphone sound with protracted words............. And... In... The... Red... Corner.

A newcomer from the conmen wealth, punching well above his weight, doesn't know that he is out when he is down, doesn't know the meaning of pain, doesn't know when to stop digging and also doesn't know jack...... but this plucky new contender has everything that it takes to be the most ignored man on TV ...... please welcome.....

[ttelise]

Seriously, these guys and gals are worse than children. Both sides.

[OzMick]

Seriously, these guys and gals are worse than children. Both sides.

It is one of the joys of older life to be able to act like a child once more. Why would anyone take TVF seriously?