Capital Punishment: Chalerm Pushes For 15 Day Execution Of Drug Convicts

[SouthernMan3]

Criminal meeting criminal equals arch-criminal.

This is what happens when he and Thaksin get together

Sounds like a Batman character...

[SouthernMan3]

PM pledges to eradicate 80% of drugs within one year

BANGKOK, Sept 11 - Thai Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra on Sunday launched an anti-narcotics operation as a national agenda with the aim to eradicate 80 per cent of drug use and drug trafficking within one year.

Chalerm wants drug runners executed faster. (How slow is lethal injection ?)

Chalerm pushes for early execution of drug convicts (How early? 6 a.m.?)

He wants the "runners" aka "mules" executed, but what about the really "Big Fish" ? Maybe too close for comfort?

It seems Brother Number 2 is keen to eradicate as many of these people before P.M. Yingluck's deadline of 80% this time next year.

Cambodia abolished the death penalty, even Burma has a moratorium in effect).

Police Killers, meanwhile, walk free (at least one did)

Are you suggesting that we should be like Burma and Cambodia ?

Bullox I say !

If you like it there, go there.....

[OzMick]

Chalerm could certainly do with some prescribed medications. A very large dose of Haldol would do for starters.

Draino would be better.

Advocating the poisoning of Thai officials is a criminal offense under Thai law.

Another example of over the top hyperbole used by some foreigners and why Thai officials will not waste time with them.

Your post should not be on here because it advocates violence against a Thai official. You should know better.

One can disagree with a government position, but advocating the poisoning of government officials is not appropriate.

How does recommending self-administration advocate violence against anybody? And I wasn't disagreeing with a government policy, I was disagreeing with the views of a corrupt scoff-law hypocrite who has been appointed by a fugitive criminal as a senior government officer.

[geriatrickid]

I always read in TVF that the drug dealers are connected to hiso powerful people and to the military, with the cops being messenger boys. Well, if the DPM is targeting the drug dealers, sooner or later he's going to start nailing some bigwigs as people will start squealing to save their lives.

This will encourage some of the lower level drug network members to give up the higher ups. Now what if by some chance the pressures on and the trail leads to some important hisos and army brass? Why by golly, then the DPM also takes care of the coup backers and supporters of his political rivals, the Democrats. Not such a bad strategy.

[AleG]

I always read in TVF that the drug dealers are connected to hiso powerful people and to the military, with the cops being messenger boys. Well, if the DPM is targeting the drug dealers, sooner or later he's going to start nailing some bigwigs as people will start squealing to save their lives.

This will encourage some of the lower level drug network members to give up the higher ups. Now what if by some chance the pressures on and the trail leads to some important hisos and army brass? Why by golly, then the DPM also takes care of the coup backers and supporters of his political rivals, the Democrats. Not such a bad strategy.

You are saying that the Democrat party is supported by Thailand's drug cartels?

Your post is an offense under Thai law. You present an unsubstantiated allegation as fact.

Your statement is an example of why Thai officials cannot take foreign guests' views seriously.

I am surprised that your false allegation is still posted.

[geriatrickid]

I always read in TVF that the drug dealers are connected to hiso powerful people and to the military, with the cops being messenger boys. Well, if the DPM is targeting the drug dealers, sooner or later he's going to start nailing some bigwigs as people will start squealing to save their lives.

This will encourage some of the lower level drug network members to give up the higher ups. Now what if by some chance the pressures on and the trail leads to some important hisos and army brass? Why by golly, then the DPM also takes care of the coup backers and supporters of his political rivals, the Democrats. Not such a bad strategy.

You are saying that the Democrat party is supported by Thailand's drug cartels?

Your post is an offense under Thai law. You present an unsubstantiated allegation as fact.

Your statement is an example of why Thai officials cannot take foreign guests' views seriously.

I am surprised that your false allegation is still posted.

Sorry, but IMO you don't demonstrate reading comprehension with your comment. The key phrase word is what if by some chance it leads to...... (I did anticipate comments from the those that are sympathetic to the drug pushers and wrote accordingly.)

Based upon the experts of TVF there is no chance that any of these hisos and brass are corrupt. They are pure as the driven snow after a snowfall, although there seems to be a bunch of allegations floating around, but I'll leave that for when the allegations are more specifically voiced. Interestingly enough, none of the bigwigs of the PTP have ever been accused of being linked to the drug trade, For all the hatred spat at Thaksin, no one can ever say he was tainted by the drug cartels. Can the Democrats say the same about some of their supporters? Golly gee, I don't know. What I do know, is that the drug cartels feared and loathed Thaksin. Anyone that was anti Thaksin would get their support.

Edited March 23, 2012 by geriatrickid

[SouthernMan3]

HRW must love this guy.

This insane war on drugs is a waste of human lives and public money.

The most logical would be to legalize all drugs. Even some US Republicans are starting to get this idea.

Although yaba is a hell of a drug, you might as well legalize it. All drugs in fact. All the criminality will disappear.

Not saying it should be a free for all. You can still have restrictions. Not under 18, only sell between 11-14 and 17-midnight etc.

Sadly, drugs will never be legalized in this country. Too many people are making boatloads of money out of it.

edit: Just though of something. Calling for the repeal of drug laws could be construed as LM.

You seem quite intellegent.

Yea, doesn't he.........

[americaninbangkok]

Does this guy ever travel outside to see beyond his vision of Fantasy Thailand? I mean, he is a dpeuty PM after all. Maybe he should attend a UN convention on Human Rights and spew share his lunacy ideas. I'm sure he will be warmly received.

[newermonkey]

Presumably the Bangkok Policemen caught bang to rights with a large amount of yaba wil be executed quickly! And his son who murdered a policeman will receive the same fate! Nah, don't think so somehow. It is the same the world over, not exclusive to Thailand. It's not what you know, it's who you know. Of course, Chalerm is probably too stupid to appreciate this truism. Or maybe he is not! Every time this guy opens his mouth he digs a deeper hole. Isn't his son now a prominent member of the Government? One would think that the deputy Prime Minister would keep his head down in the light of all these facts, but no, he can't resist claiming the high moral ground, even though anyone with limited intelligence knows that he is on very dodgy ground. His mentor in Dubai must be very proud of him, keeping up the double standards we have come to know and expect from these criminals.

Seems to me I heard his son was in charge of toilets or some equally important post.

Could be his son will be put in charge of the death camps when they are ready.

[SouthernMan3]

So what happens when a policeman searches you, plants drugs on you, andd then finds them?

Depends who you know................Do not forget where we are !

[SouthernMan3]

I wonder why he doesn't say the same thing about sons who get off scot-free for clear cases of murder when witnesses are intimidated.

You wonder, do you ?

[newermonkey]

HRW must love this guy.

This insane war on drugs is a waste of human lives and public money.

The most logical would be to legalize all drugs. Even some US Republicans are starting to get this idea.

Although yaba is a hell of a drug, you might as well legalize it. All drugs in fact. All the criminality will disappear.

Not saying it should be a free for all. You can still have restrictions. Not under 18, only sell between 11-14 and 17-midnight etc.

Sadly, drugs will never be legalized in this country. Too many people are making boatloads of money out of it.

edit: Just though of something. Calling for the repeal of drug laws could be construed as LM.

You seem quite intellegent.

Yea, doesn't he.........

I can just imagine it now...Supermarket specials this week: "Buy 2 Yabba get one free" "heroin spiked milk 50% off this week only" "Buy a new nokia from us and get whole years supply of Thai bud" "Happy mothers day say it with cocaine" (Buy coke today... made with real coke" etc...

Hey whilst were at it lets legalize perverts & pedophilia as well... the ads go something like this: "over 50? Join the boy scouts today... go camping it up with a boy of your choice" "Become a school volunteer, perverts welcome" You get my drift.

Edited March 23, 2012 by newermonkey

[SouthernMan3]

HRW must love this guy.

This insane war on drugs is a waste of human lives and public money.

The most logical would be to legalize all drugs. Even some US Republicans are starting to get this idea.

Although yaba is a hell of a drug, you might as well legalize it. All drugs in fact. All the criminality will disappear.

Not saying it should be a free for all. You can still have restrictions. Not under 18, only sell between 11-14 and 17-midnight etc.

Sadly, drugs will never be legalized in this country. Too many people are making boatloads of money out of it.

edit: Just though of something. Calling for the repeal of drug laws could be construed as LM.

You seem quite intellegent.

Yea, doesn't he.........

I can just imagine it now...Supermarket speacials this week: "Buy 2 yabba get one free" "heroin flavoured milk 50% off this week only" "Buy a new nokia from us and get whole years supply of thai bud" "Happy mothers day say it with cocane" (Buy coke today... made with real coke" etc...

Hey whilst were at it let legalise pedofilia ... the ads go something like this: "over 50? Join the boy scouts today... go camping it up with a boy of your choice" "Become a school volenteer, perverts welcome" You get my drift.

I'm with you all the way !

[metisdead]

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[GentlemanJim]

I always read in TVF that the drug dealers are connected to hiso powerful people and to the military, with the cops being messenger boys. Well, if the DPM is targeting the drug dealers, sooner or later he's going to start nailing some bigwigs as people will start squealing to save their lives.

This will encourage some of the lower level drug network members to give up the higher ups. Now what if by some chance the pressures on and the trail leads to some important hisos and army brass? Why by golly, then the DPM also takes care of the coup backers and supporters of his political rivals, the Democrats. Not such a bad strategy.

You are saying that the Democrat party is supported by Thailand's drug cartels?

Your post is an offense under Thai law. You present an unsubstantiated allegation as fact.

Your statement is an example of why Thai officials cannot take foreign guests' views seriously.

I am surprised that your false allegation is still posted.

Sorry, but IMO you don't demonstrate reading comprehension with your comment. The key phrase word is what if by some chance it leads to...... (I did anticipate comments from the those that are sympathetic to the drug pushers and wrote accordingly.)

Based upon the experts of TVF there is no chance that any of these hisos and brass are corrupt. They are pure as the driven snow after a snowfall, although there seems to be a bunch of allegations floating around, but I'll leave that for when the allegations are more specifically voiced. Interestingly enough, none of the bigwigs of the PTP have ever been accused of being linked to the drug trade, For all the hatred spat at Thaksin, no one can ever say he was tainted by the drug cartels. Can the Democrats say the same about some of their supporters? Golly gee, I don't know. What I do know, is that the drug cartels feared and loathed Thaksin. Anyone that was anti Thaksin would get their support.

Sorry Gerriatrickid but you walked straight into a flat iron. Your untypical attack at OzMick's off the cuff flippant comment, which most of us would take it as it was intended...a joke was unnecessary and a little bit strange to be honest, nauseous almost. Then you come out with a similarly flippant comment and when someone calls you on it, you try and explain your way out. Are we having a sad day today? Take it on the chin and say 'oop's fair cop'. Me thinks you are wise enough and mature enough that you dont need to be told such things.

[tlansford]

15 days? This is just pure insanity.

Can we hold him responsible, personally, if there is ever someone executed that should not have been?

Then he has ordered their murder, plain and simple.

there is still a path to appeal, ...

in the next life

[tlansford]

HRW must love this guy.

This insane war on drugs is a waste of human lives and public money.

The most logical would be to legalize all drugs. Even some US Republicans are starting to get this idea.

Although yaba is a hell of a drug, you might as well legalize it. All drugs in fact. All the criminality will disappear.

Not saying it should be a free for all. You can still have restrictions. Not under 18, only sell between 11-14 and 17-midnight etc.

Sadly, drugs will never be legalized in this country. Too many people are making boatloads of money out of it.

edit: Just though of something. Calling for the repeal of drug laws could be construed as LM.

I do not know if you've ever lost a family member to drugs, but I can assure you that making drugs legal and more accessible won't help soften the blow. Whether you are watching a slow downward spiral to death, or going to identify a body at a morgue, the notion of having more drugs rather than less would seem a kind of evil.

A lot of people have seen friends and family suffer from drugs - not all of them illegal, either. If that has happened in your family, then a lot of people can sympathize with you.

Legalizing drugs is about reducing the crime around the drug business, reducing drug use, and about treatment for drug users.

Countries which have gone that route have proven that it works. In fact, it works really well.

Countries which have escalated the penalties and punishments just end up with more people in prison and/or executed.

[KarenBravo]

Is this the same man who's son gunned down a man in a night-club in front of hundreds of witnesses, yet, spent no time in jail?

[yumidesign]

"I won't listen to National Human Right Commission or NGOs, because I answer to the country and the public."

is there a contradiction in terms in this statement? or is he just confused?

[manarak]

This Chalerm guy makes very agressive law & order statements every other day.

His public campaign seems a bit odd.

I wonder what his agenda is.

Does he want to become prime minister?

Governor of Bangkok?

[bigbamboo]

This Chalerm guy makes very agressive law & order statements every other day.

His public campaign seems a bit odd.

I wonder what his agenda is.

Does he want to become prime minister?

Governor of Bangkok?

The Thaiminator.

[Soupdragon]

This Chalerm guy makes very agressive law & order statements every other day.

His public campaign seems a bit odd.

I wonder what his agenda is.

Does he want to become prime minister?

Governor of Bangkok?

I suspect his current brief is to make such a TIT out of himself in the media it draws attention away from the PM. If that isn't the case, oh dear....

[AleG]

Is this the same man who's son gunned down a man in a night-club in front of hundreds of witnesses, yet, spent no time in jail?

Allegedly Yes.

Allegedly Daddy sorted things out while his... ehh... spawn, was in "self imposed exile", making sure alleged witnesses were sufficiently amnesic about the whole thing.

Also allegedly further pushed his weight around to make sure he had a nice, fat promotion in military rank after, allegedly going AWOL in the fore mentioned "self imposed exile".

This, ladies and gentlemen, is the guy running the show behind Yingluck's PM façade. Put in charge in great measure by a group of people that claim to hate, hate I tell you!, double standards.

Dang, what do you mean there's no 0.001 font size?

[BookMan]

Where is the U.N. human rights commission when you need them?

They are probably still meeting to figure out what they could have done better and sooner in Bosnia/Kosovo/Serbia in the mid nineties.

[warfie]

I'm dam_n sure more suffer and die as a result of using motor vehicles... should we start putting car dealers to death?

[BookMan]

HRW must love this guy.

This insane war on drugs is a waste of human lives and public money.

The most logical would be to legalize all drugs. Even some US Republicans are starting to get this idea.

Although yaba is a hell of a drug, you might as well legalize it. All drugs in fact. All the criminality will disappear.

Not saying it should be a free for all. You can still have restrictions. Not under 18, only sell between 11-14 and 17-midnight etc.

Sadly, drugs will never be legalized in this country. Too many people are making boatloads of money out of it.

edit: Just though of something. Calling for the repeal of drug laws could be construed as LM.

I do not know if you've ever lost a family member to drugs, but I can assure you that making drugs legal and more accessible won't help soften the blow. Whether you are watching a slow downward spiral to death, or going to identify a body at a morgue, the notion of having more drugs rather than less would seem a kind of evil.

A lot of people have seen friends and family suffer from drugs - not all of them illegal, either. If that has happened in your family, then a lot of people can sympathize with you.

Legalizing drugs is about reducing the crime around the drug business, reducing drug use, and about treatment for drug users.

Countries which have gone that route have proven that it works. In fact, it works really well.

Countries which have escalated the penalties and punishments just end up with more people in prison and/or executed.

I don't think Chalerm's statements are about fact or rational thinking. They are just populist measures about 'getting tough on crime', to appeal to a broad audience.

Many first world countries the world over do the same thing.

[trainman34014]

I asked a Thai friend what he thought about this statement earlier today. His answer was... 'Eh? Don't know anything, I not listen to politic all just junk. Pick Bean more important for me and have beer with you later'. Seems the voters couldn't care less !

[BookMan]

I asked a Thai friend what he thought about this statement earlier today. His answer was... 'Eh? Don't know anything, I not listen to politic all just junk. Pick Bean more important for me and have beer with you later'. Seems the voters couldn't care less !

Well, one voter anyway...

[tlansford]

HRW must love this guy.

This insane war on drugs is a waste of human lives and public money.

The most logical would be to legalize all drugs. Even some US Republicans are starting to get this idea.

Although yaba is a hell of a drug, you might as well legalize it. All drugs in fact. All the criminality will disappear.

Not saying it should be a free for all. You can still have restrictions. Not under 18, only sell between 11-14 and 17-midnight etc.

Sadly, drugs will never be legalized in this country. Too many people are making boatloads of money out of it.

edit: Just though of something. Calling for the repeal of drug laws could be construed as LM.

I do not know if you've ever lost a family member to drugs, but I can assure you that making drugs legal and more accessible won't help soften the blow. Whether you are watching a slow downward spiral to death, or going to identify a body at a morgue, the notion of having more drugs rather than less would seem a kind of evil.

A lot of people have seen friends and family suffer from drugs - not all of them illegal, either. If that has happened in your family, then a lot of people can sympathize with you.

Legalizing drugs is about reducing the crime around the drug business, reducing drug use, and about treatment for drug users.

Countries which have gone that route have proven that it works. In fact, it works really well.

Countries which have escalated the penalties and punishments just end up with more people in prison and/or executed.

I don't think Chalerm's statements are about fact or rational thinking. They are just populist measures about 'getting tough on crime', to appeal to a broad audience.

Many first world countries the world over do the same thing.

I agree.

[oops]

HRW must love this guy.

This insane war on drugs is a waste of human lives and public money.

The most logical would be to legalize all drugs. Even some US Republicans are starting to get this idea.

Although yaba is a hell of a drug, you might as well legalize it. All drugs in fact. All the criminality will disappear.

Not saying it should be a free for all. You can still have restrictions. Not under 18, only sell between 11-14 and 17-midnight etc.

Sadly, drugs will never be legalized in this country. Too many people are making boatloads of money out of it.

edit: Just though of something. Calling for the repeal of drug laws could be construed as LM.

What is really sad are the children that end up with the drugs from either parents that have them around their home or a relative that feels he/she is envinceable then talks a child into taking them

I am all for legalizing it but only if they create a building in which those that want to take these drugs can go do it for free and as much as they want until they kill themselves. At the back of the building should be an incenerator.....so they can burn the bodies.