DSI Takes Up Suthep Land Case, Plus Others

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DSI takes up Suthep land case, plus others

The Nation

SURAT THANI: -- The Department of Special Investigation yesterday accepted a land encroachment case in Surat Thani, which allegedly involved a son of Democrat Party secretary-general Suthep Thaugsuban.

Many cases were accepted by the DSI. One involved a syndicate that allegedly forged identity cards for more than 1,600 illegal entrants. The group included government officials who pocketed more than Bt20 million. Another concerned a network of war weapons traders who allegedly sold arms to drug dealers in the North.

In the land "scam" at Phaeng mountain in Surat Thani, deeds of ownership were issued for an area allegedly 37 rai bigger than the actual site, which is located on a plot with a slope greater than the legal limit for property which can be privately owned.

-- The Nation 2012-03-27

[CalgaryII]

What is good for the goose, is good for the gander, if ya know wot I mean. To single out some politicians for criminalization, while ignoring others is what is called 'double standards', or agenda, or self-serving, or deception....or perhaps all of the above.

[Roadman]

What is good for the goose, is good for the gander, if ya know wot I mean. To single out some politicians for criminalization, while ignoring others is what is called 'double standards', or agenda, or self-serving, or deception....or perhaps all of the above.

Geez...read it again and then try and define who the politican is.

[sbk]

There were quite a few reported illegal land deals during the TRT period allegedly involving high ranking TRT party members,, perhaps that is what CalgaryII is referring to.

Pretty sure those people never got prosecuted either and it would be good to see if their names were also on the list of illegal land deals being investigated.

[Roadman]

There were quite a few reported illegal land deals during the TRT period allegedly involving high ranking TRT party members,, perhaps that is what CalgaryII is referring to.

Pretty sure those people never got prosecuted either and it would be good to see if their names were also on the list of illegal land deals being investigated.

In the case of this article it is the son of not the politican. Sometimes the points scoring is a bit beyond. Do agree thou that regardless of who they are treat them all the same.

[BookMan]

I don't know a lot about this 'Department of Special investigation'. I know Chalerm has been saying they will be handling aspects of his tough on drugs stance.

Is the DSI considered above corruption in Thailand?

I'd be interested in feedback if anyone has an informed comment to make.

[Siam Simon]

There were quite a few reported illegal land deals during the TRT period allegedly involving high ranking TRT party members,, perhaps that is what CalgaryII is referring to.

Pretty sure those people never got prosecuted either and it would be good to see if their names were also on the list of illegal land deals being investigated.

It's very clear that Calgaryll is referring to the op. And, whilst there may well be potential cases against erstwhile TRT memblers, they are not the subject of this thread.

[mca]

As Suthep wipes a tear from his eye and proudly declares " That's my boy. Following the old family traditions....."

[sbk]

There were quite a few reported illegal land deals during the TRT period allegedly involving high ranking TRT party members,, perhaps that is what CalgaryII is referring to.

Pretty sure those people never got prosecuted either and it would be good to see if their names were also on the list of illegal land deals being investigated.

It's very clear that Calgaryll is referring to the op. And, whilst there may well be potential cases against erstwhile TRT memblers, they are not the subject of this thread.

from the OP

Many cases were accepted by the DSI.

[Siam Simon]

There were quite a few reported illegal land deals during the TRT period allegedly involving high ranking TRT party members,, perhaps that is what CalgaryII is referring to.

Pretty sure those people never got prosecuted either and it would be good to see if their names were also on the list of illegal land deals being investigated.

It's very clear that Calgaryll is referring to the op. And, whilst there may well be potential cases against erstwhile TRT memblers, they are not the subject of this thread.

from the OP

Many cases were accepted by the DSI.

And if you go to the full article on The Nation website, there is no mention of TRT, so there was no reason for you to interpret Calgaryll's reply as a possible reference to TRT politicians. It would be entirely logical to interpret Calgaryll's reply to be a reference to the only case specifically named in the op. Nothing more.

[udonguy]

What is good for the goose, is good for the gander, if ya know wot I mean. To single out some politicians for criminalization, while ignoring others is what is called 'double standards', or agenda, or self-serving, or deception....or perhaps all of the above.

ah so that's ok then!

[AleG]

What is good for the goose, is good for the gander, if ya know wot I mean. To single out some politicians for criminalization, while ignoring others is what is called 'double standards', or agenda, or self-serving, or deception....or perhaps all of the above.

Then why do you defend Thaksin and his obvious graft and corrupt practices?

I see no one here defending corrupt politicians, except the Thaksin Cheerleading Brigade.

[pipo1000]

There were quite a few reported illegal land deals during the TRT period allegedly involving high ranking TRT party members,, perhaps that is what CalgaryII is referring to.

Pretty sure those people never got prosecuted either and it would be good to see if their names were also on the list of illegal land deals being investigated.

In the case of this article it is the son of not the politican. Sometimes the points scoring is a bit beyond. Do agree thou that regardless of who they are treat them all the same.

So You think the son managed this without the help of his father,the politician?

I would be very surprised if the whole project doesn't belong to Suthep but is just registered in the son's name,only to create some smoke screens.

[h90]

There were quite a few reported illegal land deals during the TRT period allegedly involving high ranking TRT party members,, perhaps that is what CalgaryII is referring to.

Pretty sure those people never got prosecuted either and it would be good to see if their names were also on the list of illegal land deals being investigated.

If you travel to the best places and speak with the people, you'll hear about thousands of cases. Large resorts without documents, bought islands, national park officers threatened with dead etc etc

Of course not all TRT....across the political and influential family spectrum....

Basically nothing is happening.

[Siam Simon]

There were quite a few reported illegal land deals during the TRT period allegedly involving high ranking TRT party members,, perhaps that is what CalgaryII is referring to.

Pretty sure those people never got prosecuted either and it would be good to see if their names were also on the list of illegal land deals being investigated.

If you travel to the best places and speak with the people, you'll hear about thousands of cases. Large resorts without documents, bought islands, national park officers threatened with dead etc etc

Of course not all TRT....across the political and influential family spectrum....

Basically nothing is happening.

If we're going offtopic from the op, how much resort land/property is owned by the military? And if so, why? I bet there aren't too many posters wanting to discuss this thorny subject. Far easier to slag off the politicians.

[Thai at Heart]

There were quite a few reported illegal land deals during the TRT period allegedly involving high ranking TRT party members,, perhaps that is what CalgaryII is referring to.

Pretty sure those people never got prosecuted either and it would be good to see if their names were also on the list of illegal land deals being investigated.

In the case of this article it is the son of not the politican. Sometimes the points scoring is a bit beyond. Do agree thou that regardless of who they are treat them all the same.

So You think the son managed this without the help of his father,the politician?

I would be very surprised if the whole project doesn't belong to Suthep but is just registered in the son's name,only to create some smoke screens.

Surely not a nominee? How dastardly....

[OzMick]

And if you go to the full article on The Nation website, there is no mention of TRT, so there was no reason for you to interpret Calgaryll's reply as a possible reference to TRT politicians. It would be entirely logical to interpret Calgaryll's reply to be a reference to the only case specifically named in the op. Nothing more.

Nor would I expect there to be, given the bent (pun intended) of the current government. At risk of "double standards" can I expect to see a round of "politically motivated charges" posts, a few "why single him out, they're all guilty," and, if he does a runner. "bring back suthep's son"

[animatic]

There were quite a few reported illegal land deals during the TRT period allegedly involving high ranking TRT party members,, perhaps that is what CalgaryII is referring to.

Pretty sure those people never got prosecuted either and it would be good to see if their names were also on the list of illegal land deals being investigated.

It's very clear that Calgaryll is referring to the op. And, whilst there may well be potential cases against erstwhile TRT memblers, they are not the subject of this thread.

from the OP

Many cases were accepted by the DSI.

It's perfectly fair play to bring it up because the subject is

'Potentially crooked land deals by politicians and their families',

and to ignore the Current Regimes old friends and families bad land deals,

is to put the head firmly in the sand, or rectum.

There is a double standard being applied without doubt,

and the DSI quite clearly goes with the political winds of the day.

ALL crooked land deals should be dealt with fairly by DSI.

[animatic]

There were quite a few reported illegal land deals during the TRT period allegedly involving high ranking TRT party members,, perhaps that is what CalgaryII is referring to.

Pretty sure those people never got prosecuted either and it would be good to see if their names were also on the list of illegal land deals being investigated.

In the case of this article it is the son of not the politican. Sometimes the points scoring is a bit beyond. Do agree thou that regardless of who they are treat them all the same.

So You think the son managed this without the help of his father,the politician?

I would be very surprised if the whole project doesn't belong to Suthep but is just registered in the son's name,only to create some smoke screens.

Surely not a nominee? How dastardly....

So he might be called ' The Dastard Son ' ?

[animatic]

There were quite a few reported illegal land deals during the TRT period allegedly involving high ranking TRT party members,, perhaps that is what CalgaryII is referring to.

Pretty sure those people never got prosecuted either and it would be good to see if their names were also on the list of illegal land deals being investigated.

If you travel to the best places and speak with the people, you'll hear about thousands of cases. Large resorts without documents, bought islands, national park officers threatened with dead etc etc

Of course not all TRT....across the political and influential family spectrum....

Basically nothing is happening.

If we're going offtopic from the op, how much resort land/property is owned by the military? And if so, why? I bet there aren't too many posters wanting to discuss this thorny subject. Far easier to slag off the politicians.

National security comes to mind.

Navel bases, military bases and the like are absolutely normal to have in ANY country.

Or are you implying the military offices and retired military are not allowed to own property?

Edited March 27, 2012 by animatic

[OzMick]

It's perfectly fair play to bring it up because the subject is

'Potentially crooked land deals by politicians and their families',

and to ignore the Current Regimes old friends and families bad land deals,

is to put the head firmly in the sand, or rectum.

There is a double standard being applied without doubt,

and the DSI quite clearly goes with the political winds of the day.

ALL crooked land deals should be dealt with fairly by DSI.

No update on the Yingluk et al perjury case then. I expect it will be pulled out of the back filing cabinet two days after the statute of limitations expires the case.

[Rimmer]

Off topic posts bringing HM the King into the conversation removed, Please stick to the topic in hand which is:

DSI Takes Up Suthep Land Case, Plus Others

[Tatsujin]

Is the DSI considered above corruption in Thailand?

This is Thailand, where Police and Govt. officials don't get paid that much . . . so, what do you think? lol

[phiphidon]

Some background information including why Sutheps name has been mentioned. As this case is still being pursued it appears that Suthep hasn't come up with the title deeds as promised otherwise this matter would have been cleared up to everyones satisfaction. Now, nearly two years later, the case has been taken from the NACC and handed over to the DSI to investigate.

Legal warning over Koh Samui land claims

By The Nation

Published on June 14, 2010

Deputy Prime Minister Suthep Thaugsuban said yesterday he would file a libel suit against Pheu Thai MP Jatuporn Promphan for saying a mob had been arranged to block the Opposition party from going into a plot of land his son owns in Koh Samui.

He said his son Taen had already checked before buying to determine if the land had lawful title deeds and had owned the block since 2001. There had been attempts to scrutinise land ownership twice by the Pheu Thai Party.

Pheu Thai Party spokesman Prompong Nopparit said the Opposition team appointed to check on ownership of the block was followed by a motorcycle taxi gang from Samui airport and was threatened they would face a charge of illegal invasion if they entered Taen's land.

He said the incident happened despite the fact the party sought cooperation from Deputy Interior Minister Taworn Senniam to check on the land. A mob had been mobilisation by local community radio stations to get people from Nakhon Si Thammarat and Surat Thani's Muang District to block the team

.

Prompong said an initial inspection found that the 60-rai plot was located more than 200 metres above mean sea level, which meant land title deeds could not be issued. He said a 25-rai plot bordering Taen's land belonging to Thoop Poopaiboon, who also did not have a land title deed.

He said the Opposition team was threatened that their hotel would be burnt down, which forced them to sneak out of the hotel to stay somewhere else.

A two-metre deep hole had also been dug on the road towards Taen's land to prevent the team's vehicles from getting to the plot.

He called on PM Abhisit Vejjajiva to revoke the land ownership, saying the Opposition believed the case was similar to land owned" by former PM Surayud Chulanont at Khao Yai Thiang.

He claimed Suthep used his son as nominee to own the land. If Abhisit failed to take legal action, the party would will file a complaint with the National Counter Corruption Commission to take the PM to task.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/home/2010/06/14/politics/Legal-warning-over-Koh-Samui-land-claims-30131494.html

PM: land bill violators subject to prosecution

BANGKOK, 26 June 2010 (NNT) – Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva vows to comply with the law in case of land policy scandals involving Democrat executives.

Mr Tan Thaugsuban, the son of Deputy Prime Minister Suthep Thaugsuban was accused by the opposition Pheu Thai Party of obtaining illegal issuance of title deeds on Ko Samui. To counter the accusation, Mr Suthep claimed that the land was possessed legitimately. Related documents will be presented as evidence to the National Anti-Corruption Commission (NACC) whenever requested.

http://thainews.prd.go.th/en/news.php?id=255306260027

[bigbamboo]

There were quite a few reported illegal land deals during the TRT period allegedly involving high ranking TRT party members,, perhaps that is what CalgaryII is referring to.

Pretty sure those people never got prosecuted either and it would be good to see if their names were also on the list of illegal land deals being investigated.

What is good for the goose, is good for the gander, if ya know wot I mean. To single out some politicians for criminalization, while ignoring others is what is called 'double standards', or agenda, or self-serving, or deception....or perhaps all of the above.

Absolutely. All criminal politicians should be dealt with regardless of their connections and if found guilty by a court of law should accept the consequences, pay the penalty for their criminality and at least retain some honour. Those who don't can always do that peculiarily Thai thing of 'fleeing the scene'.

Edited March 27, 2012 by bigbamboo

[sparebox2]

Suthep was found innocent by Mark government.

This is another scam set up by Thaksin to discredit Mark's government members.

[BookMan]

Is the DSI considered above corruption in Thailand?

This is Thailand, where Police and Govt. officials don't get paid that much . . . so, what do you think? lol

Ummmm... Please refer back to my original post...lol

Is the DSI considered above corruption in Thailand?

I'd be interested in feedback if anyone has an informed comment to make.

[udonguy]

Suthep was found innocent by Mark government.

This is another scam set up by Thaksin to discredit Mark's government members.

so funny - so the deputy PM from Marks government MUST be innocent! I mean there is no bias right? if he has nothing to hide let it all come out in the open right?

[oldsailor35]

Its a fact that there were many "shady" land deals carried out here in the south when Suthep was in control.

The govt made available many blocks of land for poorer farmers. This was administered by Suthep and it was discovered that at least 9 of these blocks of land were given to very rich families, friends of Suthep. So he probably gave one to his son, this has to be investigated. There are other suggestions about him regarding shady deals with the importing of Palm Oil from Malaysia. His family are in the Palm Oil business also !

[oldsailor35]

There were quite a few reported illegal land deals during the TRT period allegedly involving high ranking TRT party members,, perhaps that is what CalgaryII is referring to.

Pretty sure those people never got prosecuted either and it would be good to see if their names were also on the list of illegal land deals being investigated.

If you travel to the best places and speak with the people, you'll hear about thousands of cases. Large resorts without documents, bought islands, national park officers threatened with dead etc etc

Of course not all TRT....across the political and influential family spectrum....

Basically nothing is happening.

If we're going offtopic from the op, how much resort land/property is owned by the military? And if so, why? I bet there aren't too many posters wanting to discuss this thorny subject. Far easier to slag off the politicians.

Yes, but its the corrupt politicians who are facillitating it.