No, I Did Not: Fugitive Ex-Premier Thaksin

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THAKSIN VS INSURGENTS

No, I did not: fugitive ex-premier

The Nation

Former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra has denied an allegation he held talks with southern insurgents in Malaysia.

HONG KONG: -- "I am not in the position to conduct such negotiations since I am just an unemployed man," he said in an interview in Hong Kong.

Two Democrat MPs, Prasert Phongsuwansiri and Thaworn Senneam, alleged that an insurgency-linked website posted a picture of Thaksin in a meeting with some 18 southern insurgents, voicing suspicion that recent bomb attacks in Hat Yai and Yala might have been set off by insurgents opposing the talks.

Thaksin said remarks by the two Democrats were groundless, insisting he had never met with any insurgent leaders, including those from the PULO movement.

He said talks, if ever they take place, should be with a neighbouring country like Malaysia in order to deny the insurgents a safe haven. When Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra paid a visit to Kuala Lumpur in February, she sought Malaysian cooperation in tracking down the insurgents, he said.

Although in his opinion, every war should end at the negotiating table and not the battlefield, the Thai government should not be a direct party engaged in talks with insurgents, Thaksin said.

Democrat Party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva said he was willing to share any information gathered by the Democrats to help the government shed light on the so-called "secret" talks.

Abhisit said the Democrats had been informed via several sources, including the Malaysian authorities, that Thai officials had had a number of meetings with insurgents.

He said the idea to form a special administrative zone in Pattani as floated by former PM Chavalit Yongchaiyudh should be viewed with caution.

In past elections, the idea was billed as a campaign pledge, but none of the candidates were elected on such a platform, he said, claiming local residents had already rejected the formation of a special administrative zone.

In regard to designation of insurgency-prone areas, he said the Democrats were willing to work with security authorities in convincing local residents to accept any inconvenience caused by security checks.

He urged authorities to step up prevention measures for vehicle theft which was a precursor to car bombs.

Chavalit said the continuing southern insurgency was proof the government had failed to come up with a remedy to restore peace in the South.

He said the insurgency would persist if the government could not meet the aspirations of local residents.

-- The Nation 2012-04-09

[mca]

News Update: In a related incident the opposition Democrat party are demanding to know about Thaksin Shinawatra's business relationship with a pork pie manufacturer with close links to the government and the former Prime Minister's astonishing ability to devour all the products produced by the aforementioned company.

[Buchholz]

re: OP Photo

The years on the run have been taking their toll.

"I am not in the position to conduct such negotiations since I am just an unemployed man,"

Once again, logic fails the fugitive with unrelated blathering.

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[CalgaryII]

The whole Southern insurgency thing is complex and beyond meaningfull, superficial commentary here, but use of it for making silly little political points in the above article is noted. Everything from shouting out in bold heading the 'fugitive' terminology,hoping to project felonious innuendo onto a political adversary, and using 1/3 of the article to reverentially quote a political leader with truly culpable baggage that would be congruent with the 'fugitive' moniker, demonstrates subtle intent perhaps not noticeable to many.

Edited April 9, 2012 by CalgaryII

[SomTumTiger]

The whole Southern insurgency thing is complex and beyond meaningfull, superficial commentary here, but use of it for making silly little political points in the above article is noted. Everything from shouting out in bold heading the 'fugitive' terminology,hoping to project felonious innuendo onto a political adversary, and using 1/3 of the article to reverentially quote a political leader with truly culpable baggage that would be congruent with the 'fugitive' moniker, demonstrates subtle intent perhaps not noticeable to many.

Fact - He is indeed a known fugitive from the Thai Justice System

Fact - He is a known liar

What else need be said?

[Yunla]

The whole Southern insurgency thing is complex and beyond meaningfull, superficial commentary here, but use of it for making silly little political points in the above article is noted. Everything from shouting out in bold heading the 'fugitive' terminology,hoping to project felonious innuendo onto a political adversary, and using 1/3 of the article to reverentially quote a political leader with truly culpable baggage that would be congruent with the 'fugitive' moniker, demonstrates subtle intent perhaps not noticeable to many.

Fact - He is indeed a known fugitive from the Thai Justice System

Fact - He is a known liar

What else need be said?

Only that he has been comfort-eating a lot over the last 4 years.

[ratcatcher]

The whole Southern insurgency thing is complex and beyond meaningfull, superficial commentary here, but use of it for making silly little political points in the above article is noted. Everything from shouting out in bold heading the 'fugitive' terminology,hoping to project felonious innuendo onto a political adversary, and using 1/3 of the article to reverentially quote a political leader with truly culpable baggage that would be congruent with the 'fugitive' moniker, demonstrates subtle intent perhaps not noticeable to many.

Fact - He is indeed a known fugitive from the Thai Justice System

Fact - He is a known liar

What else need be said?

Only that he has been comfort-eating a lot over the last 4 years.

You don't expect him to be eating fish and rice do you?

[Yunla]

The whole Southern insurgency thing is complex and beyond meaningfull, superficial commentary here, but use of it for making silly little political points in the above article is noted. Everything from shouting out in bold heading the 'fugitive' terminology,hoping to project felonious innuendo onto a political adversary, and using 1/3 of the article to reverentially quote a political leader with truly culpable baggage that would be congruent with the 'fugitive' moniker, demonstrates subtle intent perhaps not noticeable to many.

Fact - He is indeed a known fugitive from the Thai Justice System

Fact - He is a known liar

What else need be said?

Only that he has been comfort-eating a lot over the last 4 years.

You don't expect him to be eating fish and rice do you?

My belief is that he will ultimately eat humble-pie & wash it down with a tall glass of karma-cola.

[FOODLOVER]

The divider lies again! Shocker.

[givenall]

Thaksin never lies

[edwinchester]

Thaksin never lies

Only when his lips are moving.

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[MEL1]

The whole Southern insurgency thing is complex and beyond meaningfull, superficial commentary here, but use of it for making silly little political points in the above article is noted. Everything from shouting out in bold heading the 'fugitive' terminology,hoping to project felonious innuendo onto a political adversary, and using 1/3 of the article to reverentially quote a political leader with truly culpable baggage that would be congruent with the 'fugitive' moniker, demonstrates subtle intent perhaps not noticeable to many.

Fact - He is indeed a known fugitive from the Thai Justice System

Fact - He is a known liar

What else need be said?

Only that he has been comfort-eating a lot over the last 4 years.

You don't expect him to be eating fish and rice do you?

His obesity is due to him having to eat his own words, a lot!

-mel.

[Soupdragon]

Surely all he has to do is to prove where he WAS rather than tell us where he was not.

[MEL1]

Surely all he has to do is to prove where he WAS rather than tell us where he was not.

I don't think he can remember which passport he uses, never mind where he is. ... .

He says, "No I did not", when there are many sources say he did. Of course, the man never lies. Maybe he just had a cold, took a flu tablet or two from his matey Chalerm, and ended up high in the sky falling down locally in Malaysia? (pseudo-everdream)..

-mel.

[mijan24]

Thaksin never lies

What particular one are you referring to ?? or is this a double edged post??

[kawaiimomo]

I think the talks are good, in fact the only way to solve the conflict in the south. However I believe this $%*# is very responsible for the current situation and he just held those talks to meet his own agenda instead of for the country benefit.

BTW, funny comment that thing about being an unemployed man...

[ezzra]

I say that man is lower than a snake full of buckshot

( Foghorn Leghorn )

[h90]

re: OP Photo

The years on the run have been taking their toll.

"I am not in the position to conduct such negotiations since I am just an unemployed man,"

Once again, logic fails the fugitive with unrelated blathering.

.

yes he looks a bit sick, or he got fat....Don't know, maybe the food in Montenegro is excellent?

[MEL1]

Thaksin never lies

What particular one are you referring to ?? or is this a double edged post??

Could be the unemployed man, or it could be 'puss in boots'. I think I'd go for both, as puss in boots ( Le Chat Botté) always uses trickery and deceit to gain power, wealth, and the hand of a princess in marriage for his penniless and low-born master. In modern today roles changed, and puss in Burberry boots became female, acting on behalf of her master.

Master is certainly close to being penniless nowadays, and the puss that fills the role of boots doesn't know a limp from a kick.

Bless her little cotton socks.... ooops let's not go there. (said about someone, especially an adult, when you are pretending that you like them)

-mel.

Edit: sorry for the puss in boots analogy, but then what would you get if you squeezed her ears together?

Edited April 9, 2012 by MEL1

[FOODLOVER]

It's the lipstick. It makes his cheek bones "Pop".

[Gillespie]

So Thaksin is a liar.

Unlike all his political opponents, who are paragons of honesty, selflessness and rectitude.

[Bakseedaa]

The whole Southern insurgency thing is complex and beyond meaningfull, superficial commentary here, but use of it for making silly little political points in the above article is noted. Everything from shouting out in bold heading the 'fugitive' terminology,hoping to project felonious innuendo onto a political adversary, and using 1/3 of the article to reverentially quote a political leader with truly culpable baggage that would be congruent with the 'fugitive' moniker, demonstrates subtle intent perhaps not noticeable to many.

Keep taking your medicine..!

[CalgaryII]

So Thaksin is a liar.

Unlike all his political opponents, who are paragons of honesty, selflessness and rectitude.

LOL

Right on!

[FOODLOVER]

The whole Southern insurgency thing is complex and beyond meaningfull, superficial commentary here, but use of it for making silly little political points in the above article is noted. Everything from shouting out in bold heading the 'fugitive' terminology,hoping to project felonious innuendo onto a political adversary, and using 1/3 of the article to reverentially quote a political leader with truly culpable baggage that would be congruent with the 'fugitive' moniker, demonstrates subtle intent perhaps not noticeable to many.

Keep taking your medicine..!

Increase the dosage..!

[BigJohnnyBKK]

Fact - He is indeed a known fugitive from the Thai Justice System

Fact - He is a known liar

Every politician is a liar, part of the job description, far from a disqualifier.

"Thai Justice System" - "Jumbo shrimp? It's like military intelligence. The words just don't go together." (George Carlin)

Prosecution of anyone with real power here is by definition arbitrary and politically motivated. The so-called "felon on the run" label used so freely here, just as with the whole Thai system of government has no credibility internationally,

The Thai people have the system of government they deserve, let them have the consequences of their choice, give him enough rope to hang himself, and if things get so bad down the road that it's worth risking civil war, the opposition can always stage another coup.

But in the meantime let's give this government a chance to be effective and stop requiring it to be managed by remote control from Dubai.

[anterian]

It would seem that this thread is just an excuse for the anti-Thaksin folk to vent their spleen. At the risk of upsetting the mods I do wonder how they can see that Thaksin's appearance or eating habits are relevant to the thread topic.

[Ferangled]

It amazes me that so many people here are so absolutely knowledgeable when it comes to Thai politics, completely sure that they are correct in their own opinions as to what has, is and will transpire politically in Thailand... or is it just there's a whole lot of people here with far too much time on their hands and a lack of anything constructive to do?

Personally I remain highly skeptical of all Thai politicians and have no evidence to prove that any one individual is more or less corrupt than another, which couldn't be seen as propaganda spouted deliberately by their opponents.

When all sides of the political spectrum use propaganda to further their aims and influence, I'd suggest a bit more thought and a bit less talking/ posting would benefit many on here.... I struggle to see how anyone can hold such strong political convictions when the entire process is shrouded in BS and only those actually involved could ever cast any meaningful light as to what really happens behind the scenes.

To be so pro or anti anyone involved seems ludicrous to me; how could you possibly be so sure in your own beliefs?

[hellodolly]

Surely all he has to do is to prove where he WAS rather than tell us where he was not.

I don't think he can remember which passport he uses, never mind where he is. ... .

He says, "No I did not", when there are many sources say he did. Of course, the man never lies. Maybe he just had a cold, took a flu tablet or two from his matey Chalerm, and ended up high in the sky falling down locally in Malaysia? (pseudo-everdream)..

-mel.

He had no other alternative than to deny it. The whole thing was a flop with not one possible good point to it.

No way could he say he failed that would be to lose face and that is more important to him than Thailand.

Now if he had a little bit of success it would have been headlines put out by him ten minutes after the talk complete with pictures.

[Arkady]

Maybe he met them and maybe not but his own words are the least reliable source on this on anything else. The man is such a pathological liar that he can no longer tell the difference between the truth and his own tangled web of lies.

If he didn't meet them, there must have been a conspiracy of exiled rebel leaders to agree in advance about the quotes they were going to make about the meeting that was not going to take place. Several of them have come out to say they thought he was sincere at the meeting but they apparently have no influence over the rebels on the grounds. They are organised in small compact cells with very little connection to other cells or the chain of command. This is borrowed by the structure of the FLN rebels that fought the French in Algeria. The French paratroopers found that burning off the genitalia of captured FLN cell members with oxy-acetylene burners did not help them extract information because the cell members didn't know anything. The Thai army enthusiastically employs the French methods but also to no avail and they will never win that way.

[OzMick]

Fact - He is indeed a known fugitive from the Thai Justice System

Fact - He is a known liar

Every politician is a liar, part of the job description, far from a disqualifier.

"Thai Justice System" - "Jumbo shrimp? It's like military intelligence. The words just don't go together." (George Carlin)

Prosecution of anyone with real power here is by definition arbitrary and politically motivated. The so-called "felon on the run" label used so freely here, just as with the whole Thai system of government has no credibility internationally,

The Thai people have the system of government they deserve, let them have the consequences of their choice, give him enough rope to hang himself, and if things get so bad down the road that it's worth risking civil war, the opposition can always stage another coup.

But in the meantime let's give this government a chance to be effective and stop requiring it to be managed by remote control from Dubai.

The ONE time since I have been here (some time) that the Thai justice system gets it right and hands down a conviction for one of the ruling elite in a clear-cut, even blatant, case of breaking a law with little room for misinterpretation - and for that you cast aspersions.

Thaksin has admitted he broke the law (but claims he did nothing wrong), tried to bribe the judges to get an acquittal, failed to lodge an appeal, and fled the country. So which part of "felon on the run" fails the acid test?