Was Jesus A Homophobe? (Should We Care?)

[theblether]

My reason was to write a catchy headline. I used to do that kind of thing professionally. I did well enough to retire early in Thailand but not well enough to retire early in Australia. I will make no apologies here about my headline, and especially not to the likes of you. Be clear, I apologize on the board quite often enough ... when there is a good reason. Please bugger off this personal harassment, OK? I realize posters like though are often tempting to snipe at highly visible posters like me for dubious motivations. You're in a long line. BORING.

Next ...

Tut tut.......nothing personal here Jingthing, I hold you in very high regard, very high. You have let yourself down today, maybe you are suffering from a siege mentality. You need to chill out.

The regard isn't mutual based on your behavior on this thread.

Quite frankly this is now becoming childish. I shall respond no more.

[transam]

My reason was to write a catchy headline. I used to do that kind of thing professionally. I did well enough to retire early in Thailand but not well enough to retire early in Australia. I will make no apologies here about my headline, and especially not to the likes of you. Be clear, I apologize on the board quite often enough ... when there is a good reason. Please bugger off this personal harassment, OK? I realize posters like though are often tempting to snipe at highly visible posters like me for dubious motivations. You're in a long line. BORING.

Next ...

Tut tut.......nothing personal here Jingthing, I hold you in very high regard, very high. You have let yourself down today, maybe you are suffering from a siege mentality. You need to chill out.

The regard isn't mutual based on your behavior on this thread.

Quite frankly this is now becoming childish. I shall respond no more.

Will the next one be that Winston Churchill was a .............................

[Naam]

Will the next one be that Winston Churchill was a .............................

there... there... JT is a professional. the next one could be "Do you support the theory that Winston Churchill was <insert appropriate subject or adjective> and if 'yes' can you provide credible links and evidence whether hard or circumstantial?"

[Payboy]

Will the next one be that Winston Churchill was a .............................

I have always suspected that that Churchill fella was up to no good. No wonder then he was a ....................................

[endure]

Jingthing said that a long line of attention-seeking posters snipe at him because he's a high visibility poster. I said "Perhaps you ought to consider why that is"?

Edited April 17, 2012 by endure

[Jingthing]

My reason was to write a catchy headline. I used to do that kind of thing professionally. I did well enough to retire early in Thailand but not well enough to retire early in Australia. I will make no apologies here about my headline, and especially not to the likes of you. Be clear, I apologize and adjust my opinion on the board quite often enough ... when there is a good reason. Please bugger off this personal harassment, OK? I realize attention seeking posters like you though are often tempted to snipe at highly visible posters like me for dubious motivations. You're in a long line. BORING.

Next ...

Perhaps you ought to consider why that is?

Stalkers, don't you know? It goes with the territory.

BTW, as an ex-mod, I would have thought you would know about not altering quoted text emphasis.

Edited April 17, 2012 by Jingthing

[transam]

My reason was to write a catchy headline. I used to do that kind of thing professionally. I did well enough to retire early in Thailand but not well enough to retire early in Australia. I will make no apologies here about my headline, and especially not to the likes of you. Be clear, I apologize and adjust my opinion on the board quite often enough ... when there is a good reason. Please bugger off this personal harassment, OK? I realize attention seeking posters like you though are often tempted to snipe at highly visible posters like me for dubious motivations. You're in a long line. BORING.

Next ...

Perhaps you ought to consider why that is?

Stalkers, don't you know? It goes with the territory.

BTW, as an ex-mod, I would have thought you would know about not altering quoted text emphasis.

Pleeeeeeeeeeeeease don't bring out the stalkers card, had enough of that from the red/green thingy from you which perhaps came to an end because of you. If you want to post then you must expect responses. If they are out of order then the mod team will get involved. Man up JT, ooop's, sorry, eeeeeeeeeeer, hmmmmmmm, sorry, don't know what you must do.

[Jingthing]

Snipe if you want. I don't really care. I'm used to it and don't believe there is anything I could do to stop it short of to stop posting at all. Back to topic, please.

Edited April 17, 2012 by Jingthing

[endure]

My reason was to write a catchy headline. I used to do that kind of thing professionally. I did well enough to retire early in Thailand but not well enough to retire early in Australia. I will make no apologies here about my headline, and especially not to the likes of you. Be clear, I apologize and adjust my opinion on the board quite often enough ... when there is a good reason. Please bugger off this personal harassment, OK? I realize attention seeking posters like you though are often tempted to snipe at highly visible posters like me for dubious motivations. You're in a long line. BORING.

Next ...

Perhaps you ought to consider why that is?

Stalkers, don't you know? It goes with the territory.

BTW, as an ex-mod, I would have thought you would know about not altering quoted text emphasis.

Pleeeeeeeeeeeeease don't bring out the stalkers card, had enough of that from the red/green thingy from you which perhaps came to an end because of you. If you want to post then you must expect responses. If they are out of order then the mod team will get involved. Man up JT, ooop's, sorry, eeeeeeeeeeer, hmmmmmmm, sorry, don't know what you must do.

Ask Gareth Thomas

[Jingthing]

endure, I love you too.

[LeCharivari]

I'm used to it and don't believe there is anything I could do to stop it short of to stop posting at all.....

Romans 8:24

[Jingthing]

I'm used to it and don't believe there is anything I could do to stop it short of to stop posting at all.....

Romans 8:24

San Franciscans 2:69

[Ijustwannateach]

Ok, this has been a strange topic so far. A couple of posts have been deleted at request, or being-off topic or disallowed, or replies to same.

I know that JT is a fascinating topic for all (and he loves the attention), but let's try to stay on the initial topic.

Transam, it's big of you to apologise (though really that kind of remark isn't encouraged forum-wide), so no foul for now.

[Ijustwannateach]

Will the next one be that Winston Churchill was a .............................

This is really getting off-topic, but on the principle that when it's needed to revise 'straight history:

From this source:

According to The Alyson Almanac (New York: Alyson Publications, 1990, p. 107), Somerset Maugham got Winston Churchill to admit he had once slept with a man – Novello. Asked what it had been like, Churchill answered, "Musical!"

[Payboy]

Jesus was not a homophobe

Seems that's settled then.

But can anyone disprove that he wasn't a big drama queen?

[jaizan]

Will the next one be that Winston Churchill was a .............................

At least Winston Churchill actually existed and achieved rather a lot.

As for this Jesus character, well the whole thing has the look of a work of fiction, so perhaps a comparison with Peter Pan would be a better anaology.

[Ijustwannateach]

Once again, I'd like to remind any erstwhile straight audience that we're not about the debate here and we don't care about your homophobic religious views. This isn't the place. One message deleted.

[Jingthing]

Speak of the devil! I mean speak of Jesus.

Turns out this Jesus was not a homophobe meme has legs!

Good news for Ohio’s gay and lesbian students: You can be openly gay once a year now that Wayne Local School District officials have granted a small concession, after a little nudge from a lawsuit, and cleared Maverick Couch, 16, to wear his “Jesus is not a homophobe” T-shirt to school exactly one time.

Read more: http://ideas.time.co...t#ixzz1voY0IY3z

Edited May 24, 2012 by Jingthing

[nausea]

Paul hated women, he was probably mentally deranged, and his blindness was most likely sexually driven, not physioloically innate. Jesus was trying to set up a heaven on earth, it's fairly obvious if you really listen to his message. This was later perverted to mean some future non-existent heaven. Unfortunately Jesus forgot to factor into his equation that like 10% of the human race are psychopaths. He wasn't the only one, the Marxists did the same. When someone comes up with a utopian solution, I always ask, "What about the psychpaths?". In fact, in my darker moments, I sometimes suspect the whole human race is psychopathic, and they only behave through fear. I, myself, love Jesus's world. Now this is a vision we can aspire to, the lamb lays down with the lion. In reality, I don't know. It's an old tale, the strong protect the weak, and the weak comfort the strong. The strange thing is that we actually have this within our grasp today, with all the modern technologies. The question I ask is why don't we protect the weak in Africa, and India, and South America. We exploit them and base our lifestyle upon that exploitation. We have two cars and 3 TVs based upon this. Now, come on, do you really need two cars and three TVs. Just accept a little less and maybe, just maybe, there'll be enough for everybody. It will really take a sea change in attitudes. Not just here in the west but in Asia too. I, myself, am willing to adopt a lower standard of living, if I know people in Africa are not starving, but I want to see political changes accompany that. I don't care about democracy, but I want to see the government accountable to the people. I want to see ordinary people having their say in what's going on. The day's of Patriarch's is gone, we are living in an age of Oligarch's. Fair enough. If I had to speak to an Oligarch what would I say? OK, you're gonna die. What legacy do you want to leave behind you? Well that's it realy. I can't fight the oligarchs, they're too powerful. But maybe one or two of you are human, not psychopaths, you want the general good. You can tap into the general discontent. The two big issues - the Western domination over the East, and democracy in the East. Of course this is based upon a prevous superior technological advantage which is fast disappearing. So we're left with democracy. I think this is peculiar to western people. In particular to the British. It's never really manifested itself except in Britain (I use Britain cos it involves the English, the Scottish and the Welsh). The Irish maybe. If ever there was an attempt to mould three (or four) nations into one here it is. And basically, that's what's happening all over the world. We are like the template. They're all fighting to establish their National Identity. But it's a waste of time. The British identity was established by a very strong indigenous population nstalling its values over a rather weak and mediocre conquering people - the Normans. I'm sure, if all the british people had been determined, they could have fuc_ked the Normans. But we let them take over, as is the British way, and sort of integrated them into British society. And so it continues. The Pakistanis, and the Indians, and the Albanians, and God Knows What Else. Second generation, just listen to them, they're more British than you are. In my opinion it strengthens our society to have these peopole here. OK it might threaten your job, but a second language speaker is never going to reach your level of proficiency, no matter how stupid you are. You'l have a job, I'm sure. As to getting a good paying job, well as always that depends how clever you are, who you know, and who you're parents know.

[nausea]

Just to be clear, Jesus was talking about heaven on earth now, not some weird in the future, be a good boy and you'll get your reward in the future, kind of stuff.

[MrRealDeal]

It seems odd to me to ask "was jesus a homophobe?" and then be told that ..... this isn't the place for a debate or a place to discuss religous homophobic views ! But I am a new member and will keep that in mind in the future and aplogise if I offended anyone.

[lostinisaan]

He was gay and had a serious relationship with Santa Claus, mostly using cucumbers to satisfy their needs.

[lostinisaan]

Paul hated women, he was probably mentally deranged, and his blindness was most likely sexually driven, not physioloically innate. Jesus was trying to set up a heaven on earth, it's fairly obvious if you really listen to his message. This was later perverted to mean some future non-existent heaven. Unfortunately Jesus forgot to factor into his equation that like 10% of the human race are psychopaths. He wasn't the only one, the Marxists did the same. When someone comes up with a utopian solution, I always ask, "What about the psychpaths?". In fact, in my darker moments, I sometimes suspect the whole human race is psychopathic, and they only behave through fear. I, myself, love Jesus's world. Now this is a vision we can aspire to, the lamb lays down with the lion. In reality, I don't know. It's an old tale, the strong protect the weak, and the weak comfort the strong. The strange thing is that we actually have this within our grasp today, with all the modern technologies. The question I ask is why don't we protect the weak in Africa, and India, and South America. We exploit them and base our lifestyle upon that exploitation. We have two cars and 3 TVs based upon this. Now, come on, do you really need two cars and three TVs. Just accept a little less and maybe, just maybe, there'll be enough for everybody. It will really take a sea change in attitudes. Not just here in the west but in Asia too. I, myself, am willing to adopt a lower standard of living, if I know people in Africa are not starving, but I want to see political changes accompany that. I don't care about democracy, but I want to see the government accountable to the people. I want to see ordinary people having their say in what's going on. The day's of Patriarch's is gone, we are living in an age of Oligarch's. Fair enough. If I had to speak to an Oligarch what would I say? OK, you're gonna die. What legacy do you want to leave behind you? Well that's it realy. I can't fight the oligarchs, they're too powerful. But maybe one or two of you are human, not psychopaths, you want the general good. You can tap into the general discontent. The two big issues - the Western domination over the East, and democracy in the East. Of course this is based upon a prevous superior technological advantage which is fast disappearing. So we're left with democracy. I think this is peculiar to western people. In particular to the British. It's never really manifested itself except in Britain (I use Britain cos it involves the English, the Scottish and the Welsh). The Irish maybe. If ever there was an attempt to mould three (or four) nations into one here it is. And basically, that's what's happening all over the world. We are like the template. They're all fighting to establish their National Identity. But it's a waste of time. The British identity was established by a very strong indigenous population nstalling its values over a rather weak and mediocre conquering people - the Normans. I'm sure, if all the british people had been determined, they could have fuc_ked the Normans. But we let them take over, as is the British way, and sort of integrated them into British society. And so it continues. The Pakistanis, and the Indians, and the Albanians, and God Knows What Else. Second generation, just listen to them, they're more British than you are. In my opinion it strengthens our society to have these peopole here. OK it might threaten your job, but a second language speaker is never going to reach your level of proficiency, no matter how stupid you are. You'l have a job, I'm sure. As to getting a good paying job, well as always that depends how clever you are, who you know, and who you're parents know.

OK it might threaten your job, but a second language speaker is never going to reach your level of proficiency, no matter how stupid you are. You'l have a job, I'm sure.

Are you one of them who's got English as the second language?

A M E N

Edited June 20, 2012 by lostinisaan