Thaksin Vows To Be Back In Thailand For His Birthday In July

[Jingthing]

No, he can't win such a vote. So there will be no such vote. The majority wish no civil war so naturally they wish Thaksin will STAY AWAY.

Edited April 14, 2012 by Jingthing

[hyperdimension]

I tell you what Thaksin - how about we run a little bet. A national referendum on whether you should return or not and you abide by the outcome?

Yes, indeed.

And if he won it ???'

Which well he might.

Hypothetically, if every single vote for Pheu Thai in the last election was support for Thaksin's whitewash, and every single vote for any other party was disapproval, then the majority (those in the 52% part) said they disapprove. Though of course, in reality, people voted for Pheu Thai for many other reasons than for Thaksin, such as the minimum daily wage and graduate monthly salary increases. So the true percentage of Pheu Thai voters who voted for Thaksin is likely to be much smaller than 48%.

[OzMick]

If Thaksin decides to risk a civil war by returning, he had better invest in some better head counters than Kwanchai, Jatuporn and our own Calgary, or it could be the shortest war ever.

What happens if they hold a war and nobody comes?

[animatic]

Thaksin also claimed credit for selecting his sister Yingluck Shinawatra as a prime-ministerial candidate. "Although I was overseas, I helped you appoint a prime minister. I chose my younger sister as PM candidate because I thought she could do the job," he said.

"I believe Prime Minister Yingluck will complete her [four-year] term in office," said Thaksin, who political observers believe is pulling strings behind her government.

He also said that the government was implementing many projects to help prop up prices of farm produce, help poor people and farmers with their debts, and build motorways and high-speed rail routes.

A fugitive incriminating himself and the current government by saying "I helped you appoint a prime minister" ?

Have propping up prices of farmproducts helped poor people, or even farmers ? Motorways and a highspeed rail may be talked about, but being implemented? How come dear leader didn't mention "300b/d", "15,000B/m", "tabletsPC to improve education", "30b healthcare scheme (instead of free of charge)" and of course the really excellent service of the MoFA "a hand delivered new shiny passport in two days even with the office flooded"

Well Thaksin appointed 4 or the last 6 Prime Ministers,

Himself (2nd temp PM), (-), Samak and Somchai, (-), now Yingluck.

Somchai the more specifically a direct appointment,

but Samak was hand picked and moneys provided to get him in office

exactly as was Yingkluck..

If Somchai had disolved parliament, or resigned before the PPP party was disolved,

they could have appointed another, but they dropped the ball and Abhisit got the nod.

Edited April 14, 2012 by animatic

[animatic]

If Thaksin decides to risk a civil war by returning, he had better invest in some better head counters than Kwanchai, Jatuporn and our own Calgary, or it could be the shortest war ever.

What happens if they hold a war and nobody comes?

What if the hold a war and it's conducted with a dozen expert snipers?

Not good odds.

[h90]

Thaksin said "From now on, there will be no yellow shirts and red shirts", he did not say "no more fighting between red and yellow shirts". I think he means disbandment of the Red Shirts, and he has the power to order it. He has not ordered disbandment up to now probably because he wanted to wait for his opponents to grow weary enough to come to negotiations that are now more favorable for him, and part of the negotiations may include disbandment of Yellow Shirts. So I do think Thaksin is referring to disbandment. Though whether he is sincere is another matter - he could get them to regroup in an instant any time in the future - all it takes is a good amount of money.

The Yellow Shirts have no owner, so no one can disband them.

[h90]

If Thaksin decides to risk a civil war by returning, he had better invest in some better head counters than Kwanchai, Jatuporn and our own Calgary, or it could be the shortest war ever.

What happens if they hold a war and nobody comes?

No worry can borrow some black shirts from Cambodia.

[theanimaster]

He's on Redshirt TV now, broadcasting from Laos singing a bastardised version of "Let it Be" with apparently RUDE Thai words "Change-Mei-Mang"... translated into English as "Whatever, screw your mother".

What a fitting leader for this country... and now my 5 year old is repeating this nice Thai expletive over and over.

Red shirts are scum, as is their leader.

[cgphuket]

So god damned sick of this clown. Anyone kno0w why he has not simply been assassinated?

[letitbe]

So god damned sick of this clown. Anyone kno0w why he has not simply been assassinated?

let all filth in the pond hatch out maybe apt for these times but im prepared to move to another pond if needs be

[tlansford]

My ego is more important than my country. Screw the 60 million people living there, me me me.

your post or you avatar's post??

[OZEMADE]

After yesterdays extremely poor Red Shirt turn out,to welcome Thaksin in Laos,his plan to come back on his Birthday in July sound more like a plea,than a promise.

Me thinks you had better have a read of the unmentionable news paper. There were that many thousands, they had trouble handling the crowd, and they were there to meet their leader. Politicans, Family and his followers from Thailand and other countries. Sounds like the Nation is out of step with the news again, not to mention the facts or the truth.

[Skywalker69]

After yesterdays extremely poor Red Shirt turn out,to welcome Thaksin in Laos,his plan to come back on his Birthday in July sound more like a plea,than a promise.

Me thinks you had better have a read of the unmentionable news paper. There were that many thousands, they had trouble handling the crowd, and they were there to meet their leader. Politicans, Family and his followers from Thailand and other countries. Sounds like the Nation is out of step with the news again, not to mention the facts or the truth.

It´s Hun-Sen´s way of making some money out of Thaksin.

Rent 10 Red Shirt Cambodians get one free.

If you rent a 1000 he trows in an extra 100.

Edited April 14, 2012 by Skywalker69

[americaninbangkok]

wasn't he coming in Dec for family wedding, was NEVER going to miss that. This man has been called on TV a fugitive,Liar,Bull###ter,coward,a S-stirrer, terrorists assistant,runaway,God,which one does he fit best ???? He reminds me of father Christmas, his followers believe he exists until they GROW UP.

Hey, Red Shirts: There is NO Santa Claus. The sooner you stop leaving milk & cookies out praying for Thaksin to come visit, the sooner Thailand can get on with its life!

[philw]

He's on Redshirt TV now, broadcasting from Laos singing a bastardised version of "Let it Be" with apparently RUDE Thai words "Change-Mei-Mang"... translated into English as "Whatever, screw your mother".

What a fitting leader for this country... and now my 5 year old is repeating this nice Thai expletive over and over.

Red shirts are scum, as is their leader.

Your avatar is apt.

[mca]

He's on Redshirt TV now, broadcasting from Laos singing a bastardised version of "Let it Be" with apparently RUDE Thai words "Change-Mei-Mang"... translated into English as "Whatever, screw your mother".

What a fitting leader for this country... and now my 5 year old is repeating this nice Thai expletive over and over.

Well why aren't you as a fitting father stopping her and explaining that's it's not a nice thing to say?

[h90]

He's on Redshirt TV now, broadcasting from Laos singing a bastardised version of "Let it Be" with apparently RUDE Thai words "Change-Mei-Mang"... translated into English as "Whatever, screw your mother".

What a fitting leader for this country... and now my 5 year old is repeating this nice Thai expletive over and over.

Well why aren't you as a fitting father stopping her and explaining that's it's not a nice thing to say?

if he let a child watch Red TV he already failed.

[OzMick]

He's on Redshirt TV now, broadcasting from Laos singing a bastardised version of "Let it Be" with apparently RUDE Thai words "Change-Mei-Mang"... translated into English as "Whatever, screw your mother".

What a fitting leader for this country... and now my 5 year old is repeating this nice Thai expletive over and over.

Well why aren't you as a fitting father stopping her and explaining that's it's not a nice thing to say?

That works with 5yo kids, IDT.

[mca]

Worked with mine.

[phiphidon]

and anyone who disagrees will be sent for re-education ?

That's exactly the idea - Abhisit had this to say back in December 2011;

Opposition leader Abhisit Vejjajiva said yesterday that he would work to bring all sides together provided there were no more red-shirt villages and the movement was dispersed.

"If the red-shirt movement does not come to an end, then the reconciliation cannot be achieved as per the 66/23 model," he said.....

...........The 66/23 model was used by General Prem Tinsulanonda's government, which allowed communists to return to society and join a national development programme.

http://www.nationmul...e-30172336.html

[phiphidon]

I tell you what Thaksin - how about we run a little bet. A national referendum on whether you should return or not and you abide by the outcome?

Yes, indeed.

And if he won it ???'

Which well he might.

Hypothetically, if every single vote for Pheu Thai in the last election was support for Thaksin's whitewash, and every single vote for any other party was disapproval, then the majority (those in the 52% part) said they disapprove. Though of course, in reality, people voted for Pheu Thai for many other reasons than for Thaksin, such as the minimum daily wage and graduate monthly salary increases. So the true percentage of Pheu Thai voters who voted for Thaksin is likely to be much smaller than 48%.

Likewise, the proportion of voters who didn't vote for the PTP didn't, in reality, mean their vote was for the democrat party - unfortunately most of the members on here seem to believe that this is the case. Taking that in consideration the PTP still got more seats than the nearest opposing party, the democrat party and that, in reality, is why they are in power.

Your hypothetical case is as it says and therefore cannot be used as a method of guaging the popularity, or not, of Thaksin.

Ask yourself this: if Thaksin is so unpopular and nobody wants him back why have the democrat party in general, and abhisit in particular, got such an erection over him?

[whybother]

Likewise, the proportion of voters who didn't vote for the PTP didn't, in reality, mean their vote was for the democrat party - unfortunately most of the members on here seem to believe that this is the case. Taking that in consideration the PTP still got more seats than the nearest opposing party, the democrat party and that, in reality, is why they are in power.

Your hypothetical case is as it says and therefore cannot be used as a method of guaging the popularity, or not, of Thaksin.

Ask yourself this: if Thaksin is so unpopular and nobody wants him back why have the democrat party in general, and abhisit in particular, got such an erection over him?

No one has said that a vote not for PTP is a vote for Democrats.

[whybother]

and anyone who disagrees will be sent for re-education ?

That's exactly the idea - Abhisit had this to say back in December 2011;

Opposition leader Abhisit Vejjajiva said yesterday that he would work to bring all sides together provided there were no more red-shirt villages and the movement was dispersed.

"If the red-shirt movement does not come to an end, then the reconciliation cannot be achieved as per the 66/23 model," he said.....

...........The 66/23 model was used by General Prem Tinsulanonda's government, which allowed communists to return to society and join a national development programme.

http://www.nationmul...e-30172336.html

It was the PTP that was pushing for reconciliation with this model.

[billd766]

Worked with mine.

It works with mine too and he is 7.

[theanimaster]

He's on Redshirt TV now, broadcasting from Laos singing a bastardised version of "Let it Be" with apparently RUDE Thai words "Change-Mei-Mang"... translated into English as "Whatever, screw your mother".

What a fitting leader for this country... and now my 5 year old is repeating this nice Thai expletive over and over.

Well why aren't you as a fitting father stopping her and explaining that's it's not a nice thing to say?

I did and so did my in-laws who aren't red shirt supporters.

[theanimaster]

He's on Redshirt TV now, broadcasting from Laos singing a bastardised version of "Let it Be" with apparently RUDE Thai words "Change-Mei-Mang"... translated into English as "Whatever, screw your mother".

What a fitting leader for this country... and now my 5 year old is repeating this nice Thai expletive over and over.

Well why aren't you as a fitting father stopping her and explaining that's it's not a nice thing to say?

if he let a child watch Red TV he already failed.

The mother-in-law had it on TV... yes, it's her house, but I've already made arrangements to fly my own family back to the States. Let the Thais ruin themselves for all I care.

[hyperdimension]

There were that many thousands, they had trouble handling the crowd, and they were there to meet their leader.

So you now acknowledge that Yingluck is not really the leader.

[hyperdimension]

Hypothetically, if every single vote for Pheu Thai in the last election was support for Thaksin's whitewash, and every single vote for any other party was disapproval, then the majority (those in the 52% part) said they disapprove. Though of course, in reality, people voted for Pheu Thai for many other reasons than for Thaksin, such as the minimum daily wage and graduate monthly salary increases. So the true percentage of Pheu Thai voters who voted for Thaksin is likely to be much smaller than 48%.

Likewise, the proportion of voters who didn't vote for the PTP didn't, in reality, mean their vote was for the democrat party - unfortunately most of the members on here seem to believe that this is the case.

I never said that. I am not really a Democrat party supporter myself, I just think that they are the lesser evil whilst led by Abhisit until hopefully some other group arises.

Taking that in consideration the PTP still got more seats than the nearest opposing party, the democrat party and that, in reality, is why they are in power.

Referendums are not based on parliament seats.

Your hypothetical case is as it says and therefore cannot be used as a method of guaging the popularity, or not, of Thaksin.

So how would you estimate an outcome of a referendum if one was held with the question "Do you want all charges and convictions against Thaksin dropped?"?

Edited April 15, 2012 by hyperdimension

[bigbamboo]

Re Hyperdimension's question above........ there was a recent poll in which the figures broke down approx like this. A quarter didn't want Thaksin back at all, a quarter wanted to see Thaksin return a free man and the remaining half wanted to see him return to fight the charges in a court of appeal.

Edited April 15, 2012 by bigbamboo

[kmj]

So god damned sick of this clown. Anyone kno0w why he has not simply been assassinated?

I bet he's still alive and going when most the whinging old farts on TV are dead and buried 55555