BigJohnnyBKK Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Maybe that body language stems from an underlying feeling that you may be from some law enforcement agency and someone may be getting close. Or simply shame about their lifestyle even if no one's after them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerryk Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Maybe that body language stems from an underlying feeling that you may be from some law enforcement agency and someone may be getting close. Or simply shame about their lifestyle even if no one's after them. I have been reading Andrew Drummond and it is easy to see why especially the ex cops and pseudo cops. I just stay away. Better to be alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samsiam Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Maybe that body language stems from an underlying feeling that you may be from some law enforcement agency and someone may be getting close. Or simply shame about their lifestyle even if no one's after them. I have been reading Andrew Drummond and it is easy to see why especially the ex cops and pseudo cops. I just stay away. Better to be alone. I am not on the lamb. I am not a kiwi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chooka Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Maybe that body language stems from an underlying feeling that you may be from some law enforcement agency and someone may be getting close. Or simply shame about their lifestyle even if no one's after them. I have been reading Andrew Drummond and it is easy to see why especially the ex cops and pseudo cops. I just stay away. Better to be alone. Are you saying that cops, excops are ashamed of thier lifestyle? Maybe I am just misreading what you are saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJohnnyBKK Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Are you saying that cops, excops are ashamed of thier lifestyle? Maybe I am just misreading what you are saying. Grey man wannabe's maybe going to turn the fugitive in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJohnnyBKK Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 From a fellow misanthrope What do you regard as most humane? To spare someone shame. - Friedrich Nietzsche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nocturn Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Maybe that body language stems from an underlying feeling that you may be from some law enforcement agency and someone may be getting close. Or simply shame about their lifestyle even if no one's after them. I have been reading Andrew Drummond and it is easy to see why especially the ex cops and pseudo cops. I just stay away. Better to be alone. Are you saying that cops, excops are ashamed of thier lifestyle? Maybe I am just misreading what you are saying. google works, here is what he is saying http://andrew-drummond.com/?p=1894 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softgeorge Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Maybe that body language stems from an underlying feeling that you may be from some law enforcement agency and someone may be getting close. Or simply shame about their lifestyle even if no one's after them. I have been reading Andrew Drummond and it is easy to see why especially the ex cops and pseudo cops. I just stay away. Better to be alone. I get the feeling that if you want to be part of the Thai tourist police then it is benificial to have a criminal record of some sort, the nastier the better. You wouldn't find to many excops involved in the tourist police. If there are some involved it would be best to stay well clear of them, a few apples gone rotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJohnnyBKK Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 I get the feeling that if you want to be part of the Thai tourist police then it is benificial to have a criminal record of some sort, the nastier the better. You wouldn't find to many excops involved in the tourist police. If there are some involved it would be best to stay well clear of them, a few apples gone rotten. Anyone who seeks out any involvement with police here is IMO either warped or thick, best case simply ignorant. Lots of opportunities growing up in NYC to make friends with "connected" guys, but same thing. . . I've got an ex-brother-in-law who seems OK, but I'm still happy I live 1000k away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wana Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Plenty of people use their "status " as a tourist police volunteer as an excuse to take liberties in thailand and think that being a " police vol " themselves will get them off traffic fines and other such violations As far as im concerned ,i will stay out of their way and they will stay out of mine I would not allow myself to be hassled ,detained ,questioned ,arrested by a farang in a wannabe police uniform in thailand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nocturn Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Plenty of people use their "status " as a tourist police volunteer as an excuse to take liberties in thailand and think that being a " police vol " themselves will get them off traffic fines and other such violations As far as im concerned ,i will stay out of their way and they will stay out of mine I would not allow myself to be hassled ,detained ,questioned ,arrested by a farang in a wannabe police uniform in thailand the Mickey Rourke quote in Barfly applies: "i dont hate cops, i just feel better when they are not around" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny32 Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 I would think at 40 years of age you belong home working and building a retirement but if you are working in Thailand you should be very busy trying to money that you would not worry about such things. Ofcourse you might not worry about money and have all you need but why hang around Thailand, go travel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JurgenG Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Maybe that body language stems from an underlying feeling that you may be from some law enforcement agency and someone may be getting close. Or simply shame about their lifestyle even if no one's after them. I have been reading Andrew Drummond and it is easy to see why especially the ex cops and pseudo cops. I just stay away. Better to be alone. The two worst source of information about local affairs in Thailand are The Nation and Andrew Drummond. The Nation has a clear anti Thaksin agenda and no real journalists, the only advantage is it's free, a clear reminder of "you pay peanuts, you get monkey" . The same can be said about A.D. Then you have Stickman but Stickman can be funny so it's ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samsiam Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Stickman over AD.....says a lot about you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerryk Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Maybe that body language stems from an underlying feeling that you may be from some law enforcement agency and someone may be getting close. Or simply shame about their lifestyle even if no one's after them. I have been reading Andrew Drummond and it is easy to see why especially the ex cops and pseudo cops. I just stay away. Better to be alone. The two worst source of information about local affairs in Thailand are The Nation and Andrew Drummond. The Nation has a clear anti Thaksin agenda and no real journalists, the only advantage is it's free, a clear reminder of "you pay peanuts, you get monkey" . The same can be said about A.D. Then you have Stickman but Stickman can be funny so it's ok. Drummond is a journalist with many years of experience writing for reputable news organizations. Stickman is a website selling advertisements for both male and female escorts, S&M clubs, Go go bars and other sex oriented Thai businesses. I don't think the two are comparable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JurgenG Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 (edited) Drummond is a journalist with many years of experience writing for reputable news organizations. Stickman is a website selling advertisements for both male and female escorts, S&M clubs, Go go bars and other sex oriented Thai businesses. I don't think the two are comparable. As I said Stickman is entertaining. So if you take it for what it is, it's ok AD has other pretension. I personally think he's not up to it and he has an expat arrogant tone that I don't like. But it's just an opinion, you're free to differ. Edited May 9, 2012 by JurgenG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinclapham Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 (edited) Drummond is a journalist with many years of experience writing for reputable news organizations. Stickman is a website selling advertisements for both male and female escorts, S&M clubs, Go go bars and other sex oriented Thai businesses. I don't think the two are comparable. As I said Stickman is entertaining. So if you take it for what it is, it's ok AD has other pretension. I personally think he's not up to it and he has an expat arrogant tone that I don't like. But it's just an opinion, you're free to differ. Drummond certainly manages to clean up the place! So many undesirables out there and I actually admire him for his one man crusades. He certainly has balls! Arrogant! Nah! Just my opinion of course. Edited May 9, 2012 by edwinclapham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GuestHouse Posted May 9, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted May 9, 2012 (edited) AD has other pretension. I personally think he's not up to it and he has an expat arrogant tone that I don't like. But it's just an opinion, you're free to differ. Like him or hate him AD does somehhing that very few journalists here in Thailand dare do - He investigates, reports and puts names to criminal activity, corruption and abuse of power here in Thailand. Without his reporting people who weild power and influence in the expat community might quietly cover up their criminal activity, convictions and court appearances. AD reports on stuff that others seemingly dare not touch and breaks the conspiracy of silence that crooks in Thailand are protected by. I'd give you a very specific example but that might only serve to prove my point too well. Edited May 9, 2012 by GuestHouse 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YipYipYa123 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 AD has other pretension. I personally think he's not up to it and he has an expat arrogant tone that I don't like. But it's just an opinion, you're free to differ. Like him or hate him AD does somehhing that very few journalists here in Thailand dare do - He investigates, reports and puts names to criminal activity, corruption and abuse of power here in Thailand. Without his reporting people who weild power and influence in the expat community might quietly cover up their criminal activity, convictions and court appearances. AD reports on stuff that others seemingly dare not touch and breaks the conspiracy of silence that crooks in Thailand are protected by. I'd give you a very specific example but that might only serve to prove my point too well. he will keep doing it until he does it to the wrong person/group and gets his wings clipped, will anyone care? Probably not..... Its not a job I would undertake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendix Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 I get the feeling that if you want to be part of the Thai tourist police then it is benificial to have a criminal record of some sort, the nastier the better. You wouldn't find to many excops involved in the tourist police. If there are some involved it would be best to stay well clear of them, a few apples gone rotten. It's a shame that Thaivisa's two most famous Thai tourist police volunteers haven't commented on this yet. Transam is usually up for an entertaining 'I love helping people, me' type rationalisation. As for the other member who was a member of the tourist police in Phuket - katabeachbum . . . . . . well, I don't know where he is these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 I get the feeling that if you want to be part of the Thai tourist police then it is benificial to have a criminal record of some sort, the nastier the better. You wouldn't find to many excops involved in the tourist police. If there are some involved it would be best to stay well clear of them, a few apples gone rotten. It's a shame that Thaivisa's two most famous Thai tourist police volunteers haven't commented on this yet. Transam is usually up for an entertaining 'I love helping people, me' type rationalisation. As for the other member who was a member of the tourist police in Phuket - katabeachbum . . . . . . well, I don't know where he is these days. In prison waiting trial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YipYipYa123 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 I don't think they need a trial if he's already admitted guilt Awaiting sentencing might be more accurate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuestHouse Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 he will keep doing it until he does it to the wrong person/group and gets his wings clipped, will anyone care? Probably not..... Its not a job I would undertake Well I hope your wrong. But be assured the prdiction you make is of an outcome that many who admire journalists who stand up and speak up about abused of power would care about. The foundations of liberal plural society are built on people who are willing to speak up against criminality, corruption and abuse of power - more so when these crimes are commited by the connected and powerful. I'm certain AD understands the risks, all the more reason to admire him for exposing the criminality he does expose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerryk Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 he will keep doing it until he does it to the wrong person/group and gets his wings clipped, will anyone care? Probably not..... Its not a job I would undertake Well I hope your wrong. But be assured the prdiction you make is of an outcome that many who admire journalists who stand up and speak up about abused of power would care about. The foundations of liberal plural society are built on people who are willing to speak up against criminality, corruption and abuse of power - more so when these crimes are commited by the connected and powerful. I'm certain AD understands the risks, all the more reason to admire him for exposing the criminality he does expose. I am in complete agreement with GH and that does not happen that often. And then you have the paid shills who disparage AD and I have to wonder what is their motivation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 I've found the "expat clubs" to be places to be avoided at all costs. Ongoing pissing contests, personal battles between members and some external shady characters whirring around like flies trying to get profit .. better be independent and collect the needed information from as many sources as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StreetCowboy Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 ... I am in complete agreement with GH and that does not happen that often. And then you have the paid shills who disparage AD and I have to wonder what is their motivation. What more motivation does one need than the shilling for shilling? SC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJohnnyBKK Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 AD reports on stuff that others seemingly dare not touch and breaks the conspiracy of silence that crooks in Thailand are protected by. I'd give you a very specific example but that might only serve to prove my point too well. he will keep doing it until he does it to the wrong person/group and gets his wings clipped, will anyone care? Probably not..... Its not a job I would undertake Well I hope your wrong. But be assured the prdiction you make is of an outcome that many who admire journalists who stand up and speak up about abused of power would care about. The foundations of liberal plural society are built on people who are willing to speak up against criminality, corruption and abuse of power - more so when these crimes are commited by the connected and powerful. I'm certain AD understands the risks, all the more reason to admire him for exposing the criminality he does expose. I hope you don't think Thailand aspires to be a liberal pluralist society? I do wonder about the size of AD's cojones, sometimes I wonder if he's got a well-connected protector or two among TPTB and he runs story ideas past them to avoid digging too deep into areas that would otherwise get him disappeared? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJohnnyBKK Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 I've found the "expat clubs" to be places to be avoided at all costs. Ongoing pissing contests, personal battles between members and some external shady characters whirring around like flies trying to get profit .. better be independent and collect the needed information from as many sources as possible. What kind of clubs are you talking about? I've never heard of any that anyone would consider useful for "collecting information". . . Like Rotary and Lions? Aren't they dominated by Thais here? Or are there expat branches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somtampet Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Anybody who cannot make friends in Thailand or any other part of the world has some major issues.I have many friends here,both thai and western. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerryk Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 I've found the "expat clubs" to be places to be avoided at all costs. Ongoing pissing contests, personal battles between members and some external shady characters whirring around like flies trying to get profit .. better be independent and collect the needed information from as many sources as possible. What kind of clubs are you talking about? I've never heard of any that anyone would consider useful for "collecting information". . . Like Rotary and Lions? Aren't they dominated by Thais here? Or are there expat branches? There are two expat clubs in Pattaya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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