PM Yingluck Asks For Prem's Help

[animatic]

She and Youngyuth are wearing pink the Kings Birthday Colors.

HRH King Bhumibol was born on a Monday - so his birthday color is Yellow.

Since we are being precise here, it would be H.M.(His Majesty) King Bhumibol as the title H.R.H. (His Royal Highness) is reserved for Prince Maha Vajiralongkorn.

Ok, Mea Culpa

I should have said H.M. Good Luck and Good Health colors.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7120561.stm

Of course that reinforces my message equally well.

The are making a point in meeting Prem, the #1 Royal Councilor,

in the Most Auspicious Colors for H.M. King Bhumibol.

Barami intact and strong as an ox.

...The word barami can be translated loosely as charisma.

But, in fact, it means more than charisma.

Barami often refers to personal character

or a disposition of benevolence and compassionate use of power.

As William Klausner, a well known expert on Thai culture and society stated,

“for barami one should also possess a certain gravitas

which connotes a weighted dignity and seriousness of purpose.

Barami is earned by a serious dedication to performing beneficial works

and by doing so with dignity, wisdom and vision”...

http://www.thailandt...ary/article/194

Edited April 27, 2012 by animatic

[oldsailor35]

Fence mending. Good, I guess, but hardly front-page news. With all due respect, Ms Yingluck looks like she plasters on too much whitening cream and powder, and she could benefit from a few minutes in the sun. She's whiter than the white door at Prem's house.

Suppose you would say that if your wife is a half black Issaan rice farmers daughter.

[animatic]

In a true democracy, the boss is the one that the people have chosen at the polling booth .

In Thailand, various unelected people historicaly have had and still do have power and influence.

The Thai delusion in full swing .

Of course power is bestowed on some by general acclaim and reverence.

While others are bestowed jobs to do by voters, or cliques,

but not because they have earned reverence in any fashion.

Just the ability to manipulate and control via machinations.

[TheCure]

In a true democracy, the boss is the one that the people have chosen at the polling booth .

In Thailand, various unelected people historicaly have had and still do have power and influence.

The Thai delusion in full swing .

Of course power is bestowed on some by general acclaim and reverence.

While others are bestowed jobs to do by voters, or cliques,

but not because they have earned reverence in any fashion.

Just the ability to manipulate and control via machinations.

The undeniable historical truth is, and always will be that Prem was an appointed Prime Minister. He never was elected by the Thai people.

[animatic]

quote name='TheCure' timestamp='1335526745' post='5254777'

In a true democracy, the boss is the one that the people have chosen at the polling booth .

In Thailand, various unelected people historicaly have had and still do have power and influence.

The Thai delusion in full swing .

Of course power is bestowed on some by general acclaim and reverence.

While others are bestowed jobs to do by voters, or cliques,

but not because they have earned reverence in any fashion.

Just the ability to manipulate and control via machinations.

The undeniable historical truth is, and always will be that Prem was an appointed Prime Minister. He never was elected by the Thai people.

You mean his total of 8 years and 154 days as the 42-43-44th PMs.

• 3 March 1980 House of Representatives Resolution 30 April 1983 Dissolution: 19 January General Election

• 30 April 1983 House of Representatives Resolution 5 August 1986 Dissolution: 1 May General Election

• 5 August 1986 House of Representatives Resolution 4 August 1988 Dissolution: 29 April General Election

So if there is a House of Representatives,

and all those MP's were elected by the people,

and they elect him as PM 3 times in a row,

he is chosen by the MP's who represent the people.

Each time he called an election by dissolution of Parliament .

A hint: House of Representatives Resolution

is listed as how PMs Thaksin, Samak, Somchai, Yingluk, were given their PM status.

Not to mention; Anand, Chauan, Banharn, Chavalit, Meechai, Succhinda, Chatachai.

Same as 52 of the total of 60 Thailand Prime Ministers.

Undeniably they all got the jobs the same way.

There has never ONCE been a directly elected Thailand Prime Minister.

Nor for that matter a directly elected American President,

the 'Electoral College' sits between the people and the assignment of presidential authority.

Edited April 27, 2012 by animatic

[phiphidon]

Body language in Thailand is very important as signals and responses culturally.

The supplicants come to see Prem have definitely submissive demeanors.

Even to the point of maintaining a Semi-Wai position, with inclined heads,

clasped hands, eyes focused on him.

While Prem is completely up right and gesticulating with his hands, and looking away.

And what's your point? Obviously she is the lower-status between them according to Thai culture - female, younger, his being the monarchy's representative. . .

Nothing to do with anything but that.

Precisely.Odd how some feel qualified to pontificate on complex political matters when they even absorbed the elementary basics of everyday Thai courtesy.A more mean spirited person might suggest this simply reflects the rather limited Thai circles they move in.

I think animatic was just pointing out that the picture shows clearly who's boss. During Thaksin's time, he felt that he was boss, and hence did not feel the need to consult Prem on affairs. The fact that Yingluck has now "requested permission to consult" him on affairs of state may suggest that Thaksin now realizes that ignoring him can have dire consequences.

He's 91 years old <deleted>, he'd probabably just forgotten what he was talking about.

[phiphidon]

In a true democracy, the boss is the one that the people have chosen at the polling booth .

In Thailand, various unelected people historicaly have had and still do have power and influence.

The Thai delusion in full swing .

You think so, for once and probably this once only, I am in agreement with hyperdimension. (though we probably have different people in mind)

[tukkytuktuk]

Yingluck" oh let Thaksin come back, please, don't be a spoil sport", Prem "No, no, no, no", Yingluck" Right, Abihsit is for the grinder" Prem " So what, I don't care", Yingluck " I'll call Thida then, indict you too on the charge of war crimes", Prem " Right, that's it, wait till Prayuth heres about this, your for it now my girl", Yingluck " Bring it on grandad, your bark is worse than your bite", Prem" Why you, good for nothing...."

[hellodolly]

In a true democracy, the boss is the one that the people have chosen at the polling booth .

In some 'Democracies' you would be absolutely right, but as you probably know, Thailand is a Constitutional Monarchie.

Just as many other countries. Wikipedia has the complete list of tens of other 'democracies' in which the people do not choose the boss at the polling stations. Directly that is.

In a democracy the majority of votes decides the winner.

Look at the states the majority wanted Gore the supreme court said no Bush and we all know who became president. That is not a democracy. In Thailand the PT got 48% of the vote but a majority of the seats, That is not a democracy, Some of the posters sound like the red shirts always talking democracy and not knowing what it is.

[hyperdimension]

In a true democracy, the boss is the one that the people have chosen at the polling booth .

In Thailand, various unelected people historicaly have had and still do have power and influence.

The Thai delusion in full swing .

You think so, for once and probably this once only, I am in agreement with hyperdimension. (though we probably have different people in mind)

I think some of them would be the same people, e.g. Military generals. I'd add Thaksin to the list too, of course.

[allan michaud]

I read this as simply an attempt to test the waters on everyone avoiding prison. Doesn't look like Prem went for it to me.

[nurofiend]

In a true democracy, the boss is the one that the people have chosen at the polling booth .

In some 'Democracies' you would be absolutely right, but as you probably know, Thailand is a Constitutional Monarchie.

Just as many other countries. Wikipedia has the complete list of tens of other 'democracies' in which the people do not choose the boss at the polling stations. Directly that is.

In a democracy the majority of votes decides the winner.

Look at the states the majority wanted Gore the supreme court said no Bush and we all know who became president. That is not a democracy. In Thailand the PT got 48% of the vote but a majority of the seats, That is not a democracy, Some of the posters sound like the red shirts always talking democracy and not knowing what it is.

or maybe you're just simplifying democracy, ever so slightly...

tell me, who do you think should have got a majority of the seats???

[KireB]

In a democracy the majority of votes decides the winner.

Look at the states the majority wanted Gore the supreme court said no Bush and we all know who became president. That is not a democracy. In Thailand the PT got 48% of the vote but a majority of the seats, That is not a democracy, Some of the posters sound like the red shirts always talking democracy and not knowing what it is.

Sorry to disagree but your are reasoning from a two party political system with a directly chosen President as head of state. There are plenty of democracies where a majority do not necessarily choose the next PM. Please understand the difference between a President and a Prime Minister!

A very good exmapkle is the Polder model as used by the Dutch governments in which a coalition can be formed based on dogma, believe and compromise. To call the Netherlands an undemocratic country is just not correct. And the political system in the Netherlands, just as Thailand is based on a Constitutional Monarchy!

[Payboy]

She and Youngyuth are wearing pink the Kings Birthday Colors.

HRH King Bhumibol was born on a Monday - so his birthday color is Yellow.

Since we are being precise here, it would be H.M.(His Majesty) King Bhumibol as the title H.R.H. (His Royal Highness) is reserved for Prince Maha Vajiralongkorn.

To be very precise, HRH is not "reserved" for the Crown Prince alone. It also applies to his sisters, consorts and children.

[ratcatcher]

She and Youngyuth are wearing pink the Kings Birthday Colors.

HRH King Bhumibol was born on a Monday - so his birthday color is Yellow.

Since we are being precise here, it would be H.M.(His Majesty) King Bhumibol as the title H.R.H. (His Royal Highness) is reserved for Prince Maha Vajiralongkorn.

To be very precise, HRH is not "reserved" for the Crown Prince alone. It also applies to his sisters, consorts and children.

Spot on and perfectly precise, as I should have clarified, H.M. also refers to Her Majesty the Queen.

[animatic]

To be honest buchholz you do put yourself up for criticism. I think most people got the idea when you said that yingluck not answering questions was standard operating procedure. To repeat it ad nauseum, while it might get your post rate up, is now tending to grate. When the "message" is as shallow as this is, it really does leave only the messenger to criticise.................

Yingluck is not answering any questions dear PhiPhiDon, isn't that clear to you now! Especially those questions that are critical of her performance, of her Government of criminals' and of course of her exiled Don Corleone brother, She does not just not answer them, she runs away from them with the velocity of an Olympic champion , It is good to repeat these facts ad nauseum, cause its exactly what's happening!, One and one make two! Sad state of affairs, so transparent for the worse , that only ignorant retards or those with their an own agenda keep defending her!

So the question arises dear PhiPhiDOn, and not for the first time, are you a troll, are you part of this corrupt dynasty or are you just as smart as Forest Gump?

Please enlighten us about the true motives of your answers and posts (if yo dare of course, which I doubt)

Hmm......A post containing the words retard and asking if a poster is as smart as Forrest Gump while at the same time asking if he is a troll?

It's Multiple-Choice.

He could say he's "part of this corrupt dynasty",

I'd personally prefer being Forrest Gump.

Slow on the uptake, but always getting the right answer eventually.

As opposed to never getting there at all.

He also could have given choices:

a ) Malign Flaming Troll

b ) Corrupt, Running-Dog, Lacky, of the Capitalist Oppressor in sheeples clothing

c ) Famous, beloved movie icon, with common sense.

Edited April 28, 2012 by animatic

[metisdead]

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[animatic]

In a true democracy, the boss is the one that the people have chosen at the polling booth .

In some 'Democracies' you would be absolutely right, but as you probably know, Thailand is a Constitutional Monarchie.

Just as many other countries. Wikipedia has the complete list of tens of other 'democracies' in which the people do not choose the boss at the polling stations. Directly that is.

In a democracy the majority of votes decides the winner.

Look at the states the majority wanted Gore the supreme court said no Bush and we all know who became president. That is not a democracy. In Thailand the PT got 48% of the vote but a majority of the seats, That is not a democracy, Some of the posters sound like the red shirts always talking democracy and not knowing what it is.

or maybe you're just simplifying democracy, ever so slightly...

tell me, who do you think should have got a majority of the seats???

The point is they did NOT get a majority, but put a coalition together by the usual bargaining means,

and the fact most politicians would rather cut a bad deal and be getting a slice of the pie, than be on the outside looking in but their principles intact. If it were not for money used to pre-purchase partners fo0r their PTP coalition, PTP wouldn't have close to the 48% under their name. Remove Shin Clan money, arm twisting and deal making and they would be doing no better than the Dems.

In this case the Shin Clan is having to be the suplicants because their MONEY doesn't buy everything even in Thailand. But public groveling goes a long way to partial aquiesence.

Edited April 28, 2012 by animatic

[nurofiend]

In some 'Democracies' you would be absolutely right, but as you probably know, Thailand is a Constitutional Monarchie.

Just as many other countries. Wikipedia has the complete list of tens of other 'democracies' in which the people do not choose the boss at the polling stations. Directly that is.

In a democracy the majority of votes decides the winner.

Look at the states the majority wanted Gore the supreme court said no Bush and we all know who became president. That is not a democracy. In Thailand the PT got 48% of the vote but a majority of the seats, That is not a democracy, Some of the posters sound like the red shirts always talking democracy and not knowing what it is.

or maybe you're just simplifying democracy, ever so slightly...

tell me, who do you think should have got a majority of the seats???

The point is they did NOT get a majority, but put a coalition together by the usual bargaining means,

and the fact most politicians would rather cut a bad deal and be getting a slice of the pie, than be on the outside looking in but their principles intact. If it were not for money used to pre-purchase partners fo0r their PTP coalition, PTP wouldn't have close to the 48% under their name. Remove Shin Clan money, arm twisting and deal making and they would be doing no better than the Dems.

In this case the Shin Clan is having to be the suplicants because their MONEY doesn't buy everything even in Thailand. But public groveling goes a long way to partial aquiesence.

No... His point is, that it's not a democracy.