Thai/farang Marriage

[sierra01]

With all the uncertainty about Thai/farang marriages going the distance does the farang hold the final trump card?

Example; a British guy finds the Thai woman of his dreams, they marry and go to live in the UK, after 2 years she gets the right to live there permanently, after 3 years she gets British citizenship. Then the marriage goes pear shaped and they divorce. Maybe the guy thinks he’s been used, maybe it’s just out of spite, but can he throw a spanner in the works by contacting immigration and saying he was conned into marriage by the woman just so she can get a British passport/residency, and have her new found passport/residency withdrawn?

[Pink Mist]

If its anything like the Oz setup, you do a lot of proving a serious relationship, first time for the spouse visa, then 2 years later for PR, then citizenship.

I f the guy started yelling foul, i would be thinking sour grapes on his part.

About 50% of marriages end up down the gurgler anyway.

[sierra01]

I think Oz and the UK have similar rules and regs about a lots things anyway but my Q still stands, could he throw a spanner in the works?

The reason that Western countries are so tough on giving visas is to stop people from going for a holiday and never returning, and marriages of convenience.

[vinny]

If the Home Office (in the case of the UK) agree that the relationship and marriage was not genuine, then they may suspect the 'husband' of being in on it. It would be hard to believe that he had been conned for so long. There is a danger of him facing charges as well.

Edited December 27, 2005 by vinny

[billd766]

About 50% of marriages end up down the gurgler anyway.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I am feeling positive and the last part of your post is a little incorrect.

About 50% of the Thai Farang marriages are very successful but you don't hear so much about them because there is no excitement in good news.

Mostly you read about the failures and rarely about the successes.

I have known my wife over 12 years, been married over 5 years and our son is 16 months old.

We are happy with our life out here in the boonies.

[Pink Mist]

I wasnt talking Thai/Falang marriages, was talking success rate in general, I think in Oz the figure is closer to 60%.

[Dragonman]

About 50% of marriages end up down the gurgler anyway.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I am feeling positive and the last part of your post is a little incorrect.

About 50% of the Thai Farang marriages are very successful but you don't hear so much about them because there is no excitement in good news.

Mostly you read about the failures and rarely about the successes.

I have known my wife over 12 years, been married over 5 years and our son is 16 months old.

We are happy with our life out here in the boonies.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I'm not sure any survey has ever been done regarding Thai/Farang marriages. Would be interesting! However statistics do show that the 50% quoted relates to UK, USA, Oz, etc. ( true, nearer 60%) etc. Thailand has a divorce rate of less than a third of western cultures. So perhaps you have to split the difference when the marriage is mixed

[sierra01]

If the Home Office (in the case of the UK) agree that the relationship and marriage was not genuine, then they may suspect the 'husband' of being in on it. It would be hard to believe that he had been conned for so long. There is a danger of him facing charges as well.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Good point Vinny, I hadn't thought of it from that angle. If the husband was in on it then why would he be complaining of being conned? Usually marriages of convenience, or whatever, involve payment, if I was arranging such things I would insist on a final major payment AFTER PR or citizenship had been obtainened. If the Home Office suspected the husband's complicity then they would need to prove it, no?

As for it being hard to imagine the husband being conned for so long, is it that difficult to pretend undying love when you know what the final reward is?

I must add that my original post was/is purely hypothetical, and bears no resemblance to my own situation, or anyone I know! The thought occurred to me when I was reading the 'Selling Thai brides' topic, that's all.

[bkkharry]

Hey if you get conned, take it as a lesson in life and move on. Just don't let it happen twice.

[the scouser]

Indefinite leave can only be withdrawn if:-

1. It can be shown that at the time of the application either relevant facts were not disclosed or that an outright lie was told for the purposes of obtaining it;

2. The holder commits a serious criminal offence and is recommended for deportation;

3. The holder spends more than 2 years outside of the UK.

Scouse.

[GU22]

Scouse, what about naturalisation?

I believe that once naturalised as a British citizen, this citizenship can only be rescinded in the most extreme of circumstances, conviction of a terrorist offence against the UK for example.

Am I correct?

[caledonia]

Scouse, what about naturalisation?

I believe that once naturalised as a British citizen, this citizenship can only be rescinded in the most extreme of circumstances, conviction of a terrorist offence against the UK for example.

Am I correct?

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I know I am not scouse but from what I know you are right.

In fact up until the extremist Yemen guy with the hook for a hand (sorry but don't know his name!!) you could not have your British passport/citizenship taken away.

Was it not only with the realisation that they couldn't make him shut up that they rushed through some anti-terrorism rules about revoking British citizenship through naturalisation.

So bronco it is pretty safe to say that once the Thai lady had her pasport there is not a hope in hel_l that she would have it removed - unless the Home office and not the ex-husband had a gripe with her.