volk666 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 Chaiyaphorn Janthana, chairman of the Council of Employees of Independent Labour of Thailand, said his group was opposed to a delay in the roll-out of the Bt300 minimum wage, as the price of everyday goods had soared and employees' lives were already difficult. Like a hamster in a wheel - can't stop now, the wheel is turning so fast it will crash you, so go harder to keep up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdoom6996 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 By raising the vat. And the wage hike is a double edged swords. The world already knows the Thai economy is in turmoil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soi Sauce Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 (edited) By raising the vat. And the wage hike is a double edged swords. The world already knows the Thai economy is in turmoil. But while they were doing this, they were cutting corporate tax by 10 percent. Kill the poor reds, they've done their duty. Now we can become beyond rich. Wot a government. Wait and watch. Disaster is coming. The Asian Zimbabwe is not too far away. Edited May 2, 2012 by Soi Sauce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaiChai Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 The 300 baht minimum wage has been undone by the governments high inflation policies. Betime its implemented it will need to be increased to counter inflation. The government is being totally reckless with the countries finances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperdimension Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 By raising the vat. And the wage hike is a double edged swords. The world already knows the Thai economy is in turmoil. But while they were doing this, they were cutting corporate tax by 10 percent. It was a 23.3% cut (from 30% to 23%) starting from 1 January 2012. It will then be reduced further to 20% starting from 1 January 2013. 30% to 20% is a 33.3% cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperdimension Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 (edited) The 300 baht minimum wage has been undone by the governments high inflation policies. Betime its implemented it will need to be increased to counter inflation. There is no plan to increase the minimum daily wage beyond 300 baht, so it's likely that it will remain fixed for the government's entire term. Edited May 3, 2012 by hyperdimension Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 (edited) Yingluck vows to meet minimum wage deadline THE NATION A model of Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra is shown at the Labour Day rally organised by workers of the Thai Labour Solidarity Committee and State Enterprises Workers' Relations Confederation. Nationphoto /by Sakol Sandhiratne BANGKOK: -- The government insisted yesterday it would roll out the Bt300 daily minimum wage to the remaining 70 provinces as scheduled following its launch in seven provinces including Bangkok on April 7, despite employers' complaints and threats of non-compliance. In her speech at the main May Day event at the Royal Plaza, Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra said the government would meet the election promise of a Bt300 wage across the country It'll be interesting to see how well Yingluck keeps her "vow to speed up improving quality of life for workers" after several huge labor organizations (like above photo) are taking their complaints to the government with reports against employers, who have followed through with their warning (above) about non-compliance. Just since it's implementation in April, there have already been dozens of complaints over various methods employers have used to circumvent Yingluck's policy, eg. off-setting the expense of previously-provided free items to come up with a 300 baht daily salary and also cases where companies have actually lowered the wages of those workers that had earlier made more than 300 per day in order to pay the added expense of paying 300 to all. There are also complaints that a number of workers were laid-off just before April start date in order to avoid paying severance monies based on the new rate. The labor unions are demanding that the Pheu Thai Party follow through with their election promise and rectify all these shortcomings of their scheme. We'll see what she does. . Edited May 14, 2012 by Buchholz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phiphidon Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Yingluck vows to meet minimum wage deadline THE NATION A model of Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra is shown at the Labour Day rally organised by workers of the Thai Labour Solidarity Committee and State Enterprises Workers' Relations Confederation. Nationphoto /by Sakol Sandhiratne BANGKOK: -- The government insisted yesterday it would roll out the Bt300 daily minimum wage to the remaining 70 provinces as scheduled following its launch in seven provinces including Bangkok on April 7, despite employers' complaints and threats of non-compliance. In her speech at the main May Day event at the Royal Plaza, Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra said the government would meet the election promise of a Bt300 wage across the country It'll be interesting to see how well Yingluck keeps her "vow to speed up improving quality of life for workers" after several huge labor organizations (like above photo) are taking their complaints to the government with reports against employers, who have followed through with their warning (above) about non-compliance. Just since it's implementation in April, there have already been dozens of complaints over various methods employers have used to circumvent Yingluck's policy, eg. off-setting the expense of previously-provided free items to come up with a 300 baht daily salary and also cases where companies have actually lowered the wages of those workers that had earlier made more than 300 per day in order to pay the added expense of paying 300 to all. There are also complaints that a number of workers were laid-off just before April start date in order to avoid paying severance monies based on the new rate. The labor unions are demanding that the Pheu Thai Party follow through with their election promise and rectify all these shortcomings of their scheme. We'll see what she does. . So you see it as Yinglucks problem that companies have circumvented her minimum wage policy, not that the the companies are exploiting the workforce? Would you have had the same viewpoint if this scenario had happened with the democrat party promises of minimum wage increase to around 275 baht in 2013 and it's percentage equivalent in 2012? I would regard you as naive at the very least if you think that these "altruistic companies" would have treated the dems populist policy in any different way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 (edited) (reply to buchholz) So you see it as Yinglucks problem that companies have circumvented her minimum wage policy, not that the the companies are exploiting the workforce? Would you have had the same viewpoint if this scenario had happened with the democrat party promises of minimum wage increase to around 275 baht in 2013 and it's percentage equivalent in 2012? I would regard you as naive at the very least if you think that these "altruistic companies" would have treated the dems populist policy in any different way. I agree with the last sentence, the Dem's might have had the same problems although they only made the campaign promise to increase by 25% at first. Thailand has to adapt it's wage/salary system, no doubts about that. One may wonder though in what steps and how quickly. Without improvements and increases in productively simply increasing wages may only mean that PM Yingluck's vow to speed up 'improving quality of life' for workers is done by reducing the number of workers and ignoring those no longer with a job Edited May 14, 2012 by rubl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 (edited) Yingluck vows to meet minimum wage deadline THE NATION A model of Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra is shown at the Labour Day rally organised by workers of the Thai Labour Solidarity Committee and State Enterprises Workers' Relations Confederation. Nationphoto /by Sakol Sandhiratne BANGKOK: -- The government insisted yesterday it would roll out the Bt300 daily minimum wage to the remaining 70 provinces as scheduled following its launch in seven provinces including Bangkok on April 7, despite employers' complaints and threats of non-compliance. In her speech at the main May Day event at the Royal Plaza, Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra said the government would meet the election promise of a Bt300 wage across the country It'll be interesting to see how well Yingluck keeps her "vow to speed up improving quality of life for workers" after several huge labor organizations (like above photo) are taking their complaints to the government with reports against employers, who have followed through with their warning (above) about non-compliance. Just since it's implementation in April, there have already been dozens of complaints over various methods employers have used to circumvent Yingluck's policy, eg. off-setting the expense of previously-provided free items to come up with a 300 baht daily salary and also cases where companies have actually lowered the wages of those workers that had earlier made more than 300 per day in order to pay the added expense of paying 300 to all. There are also complaints that a number of workers were laid-off just before April start date in order to avoid paying severance monies based on the new rate. The labor unions are demanding that the Pheu Thai Party follow through with their election promise and rectify all these shortcomings of their scheme. We'll see what she does. . So you see it as Yinglucks problem that companies have circumvented her minimum wage policy, not that the the companies are exploiting the workforce? The multitudes of labor union workers see it as Yingluck's problem that companies have followed through with their threats of non-compliance with the new wage rules. They are well aware that the companies are being non-compliant and that they are being exploited. They want the government to do something to get the companies to comply as they are understandably not in a position to do so themselves. The government made the new rules. It's reasonable of the workers to expect their government to enforce the new rules that the government instituted. . Edited May 14, 2012 by Buchholz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellodolly Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Have many sayings re-this party in power, 1 Bungalow with lights on and no one at home. 2 they haven't got all the chairs in one room. 3 Ostriches. are the red shirts still getting hand outs in the red villages ??? if so it explains why even THEY are not up in arms on the streets. As their families MUST be feeling the pinch. Are you sugesting donations for the people caught up in the flood that never got to them are showing up in red shirt villages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellodolly Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 By raising the vat. And the wage hike is a double edged swords. The world already knows the Thai economy is in turmoil. Yes the whole world economy is in a turmoil I was wondering 1 she promises 2 she vows 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellodolly Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 (reply to buchholz) So you see it as Yinglucks problem that companies have circumvented her minimum wage policy, not that the the companies are exploiting the workforce? Would you have had the same viewpoint if this scenario had happened with the democrat party promises of minimum wage increase to around 275 baht in 2013 and it's percentage equivalent in 2012? I would regard you as naive at the very least if you think that these "altruistic companies" would have treated the dems populist policy in any different way. I agree with the last sentence, the Dem's might have had the same problems although they only made the campaign promise to increase by 25% at first. Thailand has to adapt it's wage/salary system, no doubts about that. One may wonder though in what steps and how quickly. Without improvements and increases in productively simply increasing wages may only mean that PM Yingluck's vow to speed up 'improving quality of life' for workers is done by reducing the number of workers and ignoring those no longer with a job Actually the Dems had used some common sense. They said in 2013 giving every one time to adjust to the raise. And as you say they were only going to raise it to 275 baht a day. For many of the workers that would not be that big of a raise and defiantly easier for the companies to adjust to. It was in fact a well thought out idea. The Dems will never get elected if they continue to be sensible. That is not what the Thai's want they want the pie in the sky. This is not to say it would stop inflation that is going to happen even with out raises and if the Dems had won the election. But it would defiantly soften the blow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GentlemanJim Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 The thing is that when you vote people into running a country who have zero political experience, zero global economic experience, zero diplomatic experience then you can't complain when you wake up and find the lunatics are running the assylum. I just find it all so so frustrating, but I guess one must apply one of the first rules of stress...there is no point getting stressed about something if you cannot do anything about it. I don't think most people understand (including many on TV) just how close the Thai economy is to being flushed down the toilet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperdimension Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 (reply to buchholz) So you see it as Yinglucks problem that companies have circumvented her minimum wage policy, not that the the companies are exploiting the workforce? Would you have had the same viewpoint if this scenario had happened with the democrat party promises of minimum wage increase to around 275 baht in 2013 and it's percentage equivalent in 2012? I would regard you as naive at the very least if you think that these "altruistic companies" would have treated the dems populist policy in any different way. I agree with the last sentence, the Dem's might have had the same problems although they only made the campaign promise to increase by 25% at first. I think their pledge was a gradual increase up to an overall final raise of 25% by the end of their term. This is obviously more sensible, but not as attractive to the masses many of whom, understandably, only care for themselves. simply increasing wages may only mean that PM Yingluck's vow to speed up 'improving quality of life' for workers is done by reducing the number of workers and ignoring those no longer with a job I wonder if she has said anything about speeding up improving quality of life for those who are (or have become) unemployed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosha Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 She's going to improve quality of life for the workers. Now what will she do for those who will have no job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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