Jai Dee Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 TV sends this shit by email to all members Every member is welcome to unsubscribe from this service... if you think it's shit, simply unsubscribe... the link for how to do this is in the email. BTW folks, please keep the flaming and insults in this topic to a minimum. If you have something to say, please make it contributory, not derogatory. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbkudu Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 I am truly disappointed that Thaivisa has started a thread about a bargirl, a bar and a bar punter. This clearly violates the forum rules outlined by the administration here. The administrator and moderators here made it clear that all such postings should be relegated to www.barladies.com. This is most disturbing indeed and I demand swift action at once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newworks Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 And let's not forget that bargirls are hardly representative of all Thai people as well. No more an accurate representation than taking a DC crack h* and saying... "see, this is the basis of the American way of life." <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Very well put, Heng!! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> absolutely! but i still think that there's a disturbing trend here which i mentioned previously.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foggy Bottom Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Prostitution (and it's subsequent morals and ethics) is a chicken and egg conundrum..... Which came first? The prostitutes or the punters? My guess would be the punters came first - roll time back to the time of the cavemen and you'd probably find that rape was fairly frequent - dominant male with harem situation seen today in troupes of chimpanzees and the larger apes etc. Add a few millennia to evolve from homo erectus to homo sapiens and the thinking females would have realised they could benefit from the birthing hole they carry, thus was born the oldest profession. Pretty difficult to stop, or to moralise about, something that men and women have done since they became sentient. Consider the proliferation of dating and marriage agencies in the last 50 years - they're serving a community-need, born out of today's lifestyle pressures - we now work more hours per year than at any time in history, leaving little time for finding a mate. Prostitution in the Thai style builds on that by providing a release for the male's pent up sexual energy - as said in a movie or TV series once - "if you want something from a man, empty his balls first - because you can't do anything with him when they're full" - still seems to hold true and is why the old office jokes about spotting who "got it" the night before began. When all's said and done, farangs should remember they did not invent prostitution or hostessing in Thailand - a Chinese admiral in the 1420's logged that "the only way fully please the Siamese hosts was to sleep with the wives they offered to us" and that comes to the oft quoted statistic that the farang targetted prostitution scene in Thailand is less than 1% of the total industry ...... if you think you're making a significant contribution to the economy - think again. How can western males, coming from countries where prostitution has been outlawed for a century or so, hope to outwit the sweet Siamese sirens with centuries of cultural practice? Answer - they can't! Accept it and live with it. We may have education-led intelligence on our side, but they've got street and bar smarts wisdom on theirs, something we can never equal no matter how long we stay here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axel Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 You're a real tosser axelTV sends this shit by email to all members after we click the link we get some idiot like you making this comment almost every day you are boring man <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Interesting comment klongmaster. Have you checked a mirror, recently? Otherwise go back to your klong where you belong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newworks Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Prostitution (and it's subsequent morals and ethics) is a chicken and egg conundrum.....Which came first? The prostitutes or the punters? My guess would be the punters came first - roll time back to the time of the cavemen and you'd probably find that rape was fairly frequent - dominant male with harem situation seen today in troupes of chimpanzees and the larger apes etc. Add a few millennia to evolve from homo erectus to homo sapiens and the thinking females would have realised they could benefit from the birthing hole they carry, thus was born the oldest profession. Pretty difficult to stop, or to moralise about, something that men and women have done since they became sentient. Consider the proliferation of dating and marriage agencies in the last 50 years - they're serving a community-need, born out of today's lifestyle pressures - we now work more hours per year than at any time in history, leaving little time for finding a mate. Prostitution in the Thai style builds on that by providing a release for the male's pent up sexual energy - as said in a movie or TV series once - "if you want something from a man, empty his balls first - because you can't do anything with him when they're full" - still seems to hold true and is why the old office jokes about spotting who "got it" the night before began. When all's said and done, farangs should remember they did not invent prostitution or hostessing in Thailand - a Chinese admiral in the 1420's logged that "the only way fully please the Siamese hosts was to sleep with the wives they offered to us" and that comes to the oft quoted statistic that the farang targetted prostitution scene in Thailand is less than 1% of the total industry ...... if you think you're making a significant contribution to the economy - think again. How can western males, coming from countries where prostitution has been outlawed for a century or so, hope to outwit the sweet Siamese sirens with centuries of cultural practice? Answer - they can't! Accept it and live with it. We may have education-led intelligence on our side, but they've got street and bar smarts wisdom on theirs, something we can never equal no matter how long we stay here. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> yes, there's no way that it could have evolved to the level it is at here if there weren't cultural underpinnings in place for centuries previously. thai men, even ones without enough money, buy sex A LOT. we can all thank them for the AIDS problem here. as for the contributions to the thai economy by foreign "punters" (nice euphamism!), i wish there were a way to measure how much money is deposited in upcountry bank accounts or is spent on gambling, clothes, and partying by massage girls, gogo-girls, etc. every year in this country. alas, we will most likely never know... is it really matter of "outwitting" them? if you don't want to buy sex, then stay away from them (easier said than done nowadays in bkk) or tell them "bye bye" depending on the answer to the question "khun tam ngan arai?".... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuchok Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Prostitution (and it's subsequent morals and ethics) is a chicken and egg conundrum.....Which came first? The prostitutes or the punters? I call it supply and demand .Take away the demand and then the supply dries up.Take away the supply and the price goes up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newworks Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Prostitution (and it's subsequent morals and ethics) is a chicken and egg conundrum.....Which came first? The prostitutes or the punters? I call it supply and demand .Take away the demand and then the supply dries up.Take away the supply and the price goes up. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 This is most disturbing indeed and I demand swift action at once. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Making demands is not the way to get your point across mbkudu. If you are unhappy with a topic that has been posted by George, feel free to PM him directly (or another Administrator/Moderator) to raise your objections instead of violating another forum rule and discussing moderator issues in a public thread. We had hoped this would turn into a sensible discussion and not a flamefest or trollfeast, but alas the maturity of some of our posters is obviously somewhat lower than anticipated. I'll leave this thread open for an hour or so longer, if the quality of posts doesnt improve i will close it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Dee Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 I am truly disappointed that Thaivisa has started a thread about a bargirl, a bar and a bar punter. This clearly violates the forum rules outlined by the administration here. The administrator and moderators here made it clear that all such postings should be relegated to www.barladies.com. This is most disturbing indeed and I demand swift action at once. C'mon mbkudu... this is a windup isn't it? "Most disturbing"? It's a news article only, and there is nothing derogatory in the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camerata Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 All this reminds me of one of Bernard Trink's mottoes. The motto was/is:"Never, never never never never never never ever marry a bar girl." Trink was notoriously over-cynical. He also used to say things like, "The Thai national pastime is ripping off farang." The many TV members with happy marriages to former BGs are proof it can work if you choose carefully. Regarding BGs and violence, a key factor is that many of them have extremely low self-esteem and are therefore very sensitive to any criticism and much more likely to lose it and get violent after some perceived slight. A typical story is she has been raised in some village and socialised to believe totally that her virginity is everything and without it she is nothing. Then she's either seduced by or marries some local Romeo, who subsequently abandons her. Drifting into bar work with such a fragile ego she's much quicker to reach a violent flashpoint than the average Thai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbkudu Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 I am truly disappointed that Thaivisa has started a thread about a bargirl, a bar and a bar punter. This clearly violates the forum rules outlined by the administration here. The administrator and moderators here made it clear that all such postings should be relegated to www.barladies.com. This is most disturbing indeed and I demand swift action at once. C'mon mbkudu... this is a windup isn't it? "Most disturbing"? It's a news article only, and there is nothing derogatory in the OP. Hahaha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tutsiwarrior Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 I am truly disappointed that Thaivisa has started a thread about a bargirl, a bar and a bar punter. This clearly violates the forum rules outlined by the administration here. The administrator and moderators here made it clear that all such postings should be relegated to www.barladies.com. This is most disturbing indeed and I demand swift action at once. C'mon mbkudu... this is a windup isn't it? "Most disturbing"? It's a news article only, and there is nothing derogatory in the OP. Hahaha! don't laugh, dude...I'm behind you on this one. By the way we got a lot of newbies on this thread...any chance we got a multiple moniker situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPayette Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 All this reminds me of one of Bernard Trink's mottoes. The motto was/is:"Never, never never never never never never ever marry a bar girl." <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Trink was notoriously over-cynical. He also used to say things like, "The Thai national pastime is ripping off farang." The many TV members with happy marriages to former BGs are proof it can work if you choose carefully. Regarding BGs and violence, a key factor is that many of them have extremely low self-esteem and are therefore very sensitive to any criticism and much more likely to lose it and get violent after some perceived slight. A typical story is she has been raised in some village and socialised to believe totally that her virginity is everything and without it she is nothing. Then she's either seduced by or marries some local Romeo, who subsequently abandons her. Drifting into bar work with such a fragile ego she's much quicker to reach a violent flashpoint than the average Thai. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I agree totally, especially the most likely path to the profession, and being abandoned by "some Romeo"...most likely a Thai man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zardoz17 Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Well, gang, I thought I'd post before the thread gets shut down I still marvel at the fact he's 43. There's a line from an old Dylan song that's been running through my head: "Ah, but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now".. I'm 55 and married to a former BG, freely admitted, now for 6 years. Back in my 20's I used to say "asian women exist so dumb, ugly, white boys can still get married." It's funny how things have a way of coming around and biting you in the as*s. My comment back then was quite stupid and arrogant, and I apologize to any and all who might take offense. I feel sorry for the Swede for not reading the "brochure" and not so sorry for the BG. After all, if someone were to finance her becoming, umm, a hairdresser, do you think she would? Maybe, but probably not. A good number of them are comfortable in their own skin in what they do for a living. I was just lucky in finding one who wasn't... Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruittbatt Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Prostitution (and it's subsequent morals and ethics) is a chicken and egg conundrum.....Which came first? The prostitutes or the punters? My guess would be the punters came first - roll time back to the time of the cavemen and you'd probably find that rape was fairly frequent - dominant male with harem situation seen today in troupes of chimpanzees and the larger apes etc. Add a few millennia to evolve from homo erectus to homo sapiens and the thinking females would have realised they could benefit from the birthing hole they carry, thus was born the oldest profession. Pretty difficult to stop, or to moralise about, something that men and women have done since they became sentient. Consider the proliferation of dating and marriage agencies in the last 50 years - they're serving a community-need, born out of today's lifestyle pressures - we now work more hours per year than at any time in history, leaving little time for finding a mate. Prostitution in the Thai style builds on that by providing a release for the male's pent up sexual energy - as said in a movie or TV series once - "if you want something from a man, empty his balls first - because you can't do anything with him when they're full" - still seems to hold true and is why the old office jokes about spotting who "got it" the night before began. When all's said and done, farangs should remember they did not invent prostitution or hostessing in Thailand - a Chinese admiral in the 1420's logged that "the only way fully please the Siamese hosts was to sleep with the wives they offered to us" and that comes to the oft quoted statistic that the farang targetted prostitution scene in Thailand is less than 1% of the total industry ...... if you think you're making a significant contribution to the economy - think again. How can western males, coming from countries where prostitution has been outlawed for a century or so, hope to outwit the sweet Siamese sirens with centuries of cultural practice? Answer - they can't! Accept it and live with it. We may have education-led intelligence on our side, but they've got street and bar smarts wisdom on theirs, something we can never equal no matter how long we stay here. yes, there's no way that it could have evolved to the level it is at here if there weren't cultural underpinnings in place for centuries previously. thai men, even ones without enough money, buy sex A LOT. we can all thank them for the AIDS problem here. as for the contributions to the thai economy by foreign "punters" (nice euphamism!), i wish there were a way to measure how much money is deposited in upcountry bank accounts or is spent on gambling, clothes, and partying by massage girls, gogo-girls, etc. every year in this country. alas, we will most likely never know... is it really matter of "outwitting" them? if you don't want to buy sex, then stay away from them (easier said than done nowadays in bkk) or tell them "bye bye" depending on the answer to the question "khun tam ngan arai?".... Talking about the so-called "cultural underpinnings" of prostitution in Thailand denies the importance of recent sex-imperialist history. Thailand's destination as an "R & R" destination for US troops during the Vietnam war in the 1970s undoubtedly gave a massive impetus to the sex-industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newworks Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Prostitution (and it's subsequent morals and ethics) is a chicken and egg conundrum.....Which came first? The prostitutes or the punters? My guess would be the punters came first - roll time back to the time of the cavemen and you'd probably find that rape was fairly frequent - dominant male with harem situation seen today in troupes of chimpanzees and the larger apes etc. Add a few millennia to evolve from homo erectus to homo sapiens and the thinking females would have realised they could benefit from the birthing hole they carry, thus was born the oldest profession. Pretty difficult to stop, or to moralise about, something that men and women have done since they became sentient. Consider the proliferation of dating and marriage agencies in the last 50 years - they're serving a community-need, born out of today's lifestyle pressures - we now work more hours per year than at any time in history, leaving little time for finding a mate. Prostitution in the Thai style builds on that by providing a release for the male's pent up sexual energy - as said in a movie or TV series once - "if you want something from a man, empty his balls first - because you can't do anything with him when they're full" - still seems to hold true and is why the old office jokes about spotting who "got it" the night before began. When all's said and done, farangs should remember they did not invent prostitution or hostessing in Thailand - a Chinese admiral in the 1420's logged that "the only way fully please the Siamese hosts was to sleep with the wives they offered to us" and that comes to the oft quoted statistic that the farang targetted prostitution scene in Thailand is less than 1% of the total industry ...... if you think you're making a significant contribution to the economy - think again. How can western males, coming from countries where prostitution has been outlawed for a century or so, hope to outwit the sweet Siamese sirens with centuries of cultural practice? Answer - they can't! Accept it and live with it. We may have education-led intelligence on our side, but they've got street and bar smarts wisdom on theirs, something we can never equal no matter how long we stay here. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> yes, there's no way that it could have evolved to the level it is at here if there weren't cultural underpinnings in place for centuries previously. thai men, even ones without enough money, buy sex A LOT. we can all thank them for the AIDS problem here. as for the contributions to the thai economy by foreign "punters" (nice euphamism!), i wish there were a way to measure how much money is deposited in upcountry bank accounts or is spent on gambling, clothes, and partying by massage girls, gogo-girls, etc. every year in this country. alas, we will most likely never know... is it really matter of "outwitting" them? if you don't want to buy sex, then stay away from them (easier said than done nowadays in bkk) or tell them "bye bye" depending on the answer to the question "khun tam ngan arai?".... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Talking about the so-called "cultural underpinnings" of prostitution in Thailand denies the importance of recent sex-imperialist history. Thailand's destination as an "R & R" destination for US troops during the Vietnam war in the 1970s undoubtedly gave a massive impetus to the sex-industry. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> it was more in the 60's that that started here. i agree though that the war in v.n. jump-started it here. a similar progression happened in the philippines, and also japan, both of which as you know have been host to u.s. troops for long periods. however, as a guy who lived in tokyo for 8 years, i can tell you categorically that there is not a sex-industry geared SPECIFICALLY towards foreigners there like there is here. in fact, most of that stuff there is off-limits to foreigners. that is partly because the people running those businesses are foreigner-hating yakuza-types. it is also partly because the japanese aren't nearly as foreigner-friendly in general as the thais are. but it is MOSTLY because japan is a country and a society where women, even "poor ones", have real economic opportunities in life, can do any number of other jobs and make enough money to live, and aren't expected or motivated to support multiple siblings, deadbeat alcoholic fathers, leeching relatives and ex-boyfriends, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPayette Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 [ Talking about the so-called "cultural underpinnings" of prostitution in Thailand denies the importance of recent sex-imperialist history. Thailand's destination as an "R & R" destination for US troops during the Vietnam war in the 1970s undoubtedly gave a massive impetus to the sex-industry. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I find it strange, and disturbing, that most of these posts indicate a high distaste for the oldest profession in the world, and seem to implicate Thailand as a "world center" for prostitution. There is prostitution all over the world, even where it is illegal and the law is enforced, just not as visible. Is prostitution so bad, and the bargirls so evil to be deserving of many of the degrading posts here? From just this thread there are several posts of very happy marriages to these "low life, evil..." creatures. Come on guys, if it weren't for us men, there wouldn't be prostitutes. Poo showed a bad and violent side that I would wager is not typical of BGs, and is also NOT unique to Thai prostitutes. Ever been to France or China??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuchok Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 (edited) Talking about the so-called "cultural underpinnings" of prostitution in Thailand denies the importance of recent sex-imperialist history. Thailand's destination as an "R & R" destination for US troops during the Vietnam war in the 1970s undoubtedly gave a massive impetus to the sex-industry. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You should qualify that. Above gave an impetus for the Farung sex industry. Edited January 4, 2006 by chuchok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackJack Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 when will people understand that u dont fall in love in Thailand u fall in lust love takes time to evolve lust is instant oh too serious this talk truth is he was a tosser i fell in love with a girl named POO from a bar in Phuket oh come on - didnt the guy read his guide book it says on page one in big bold letter dont fall in love with a bar girl named poo, she is married and has kids nuff said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronabroad Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 (edited) Do not judge all girls working in bars, maybe family send them to work because situation home. Not all of them choose by them self. We western people makes them be like her! Treat them nice and you got a lot back. Me also swede but do not ask to much of their background. My girl she pays when we go out and she is proud to be doing that! She also paid fine for motorbike because i treat her like a woman. But if she sees me sitting in a girly-bar i think she do like POM But then i dig my own grave.... Now we will soon be married to each other Even if she started in a bar! ฉันรักเธอ หน่อย <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I hope her husband/boyfriend is invited to the wedding. I laugh at how many people say my bargirl is different ..heeheeheehee...sorry had to laugh again. Of course she pays now, the payoff at the end will be huge. Read "Private Dancer" by Stephen Leather (attached) before you marry her. I think the main female in the story's sister would interest you If you want to marry a Thai girl meet a decent working girl. Would you marry a whore at home??? **attachment deleted for copyright reasons** Edited January 4, 2006 by cdnvic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapfries Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 i don't know which stupefies me more; the endless parade of idiot foreigners here who get themselves involved like this with low-life prostitutes, or the larger picture of how much the economy of this country is BUILT on prostitution. it truly BOGGLES the mind... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ==================================================== Well; Mr. "Newworks": I bet you now feel whole lot better for having blown-off steam, huh ?!? Before you 'classify' the Thai Bar-Girls in general as being "low-life prostitutes", perhaps you should learn a little bit more about the why and the how of Thai societity. Your severe insult at these fellow human-beings is totally un-fair and unacceptabe. I, for one, am not surprised that your mind boggles, by your own admission: it's pretty obvious that there's some seriously underdeveloped grey-matter where there could be common sense ! J. Klasema Pattaya-City Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Dee Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 ... or the larger picture of how much the economy of this country is BUILT on prostitution. it truly BOGGLES the mind... You are kidding right? Unbelievable... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Unicorn Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 (edited) i don't know which stupefies me more; the endless parade of idiot foreigners here who get themselves involved like this with low-life prostitutes, or the larger picture of how much the economy of this country is BUILT on prostitution. it truly BOGGLES the mind... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Low life prostitues....hmmmmm....not sure what you mean by that. Seems alittle pompous to me and naive. From my experince most are nice young ladies trying to earn a buck in a country that doesn't provide them with much option. They behave a heck of alot better than most English girls out on a Friday night thats for sure and they don't fill every sentence with swearing. Yes there are bad ones but there are just as many horrible girls back home who are what I call sluts. As for the economy built on prostitution.....probably. They have ceratinly enticed millions of people from all over the globe and brought billions of dollars into an otherwise poor nation. Good luck to them ! Where would Thailand be without them, especially as it seems they are kept down and not provided with the necessary education or employment where they can ever earn much money. Bit like South Africa in the good old days eh ? An underclass who provided cheap labour to a tiny elite of wealthy people..........someone's nots stupid. Edited January 4, 2006 by Blue Unicorn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. BOOZER Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 There are good and bad at all levels in life, and understanding why some Thai girls prostitute themselves is to have gained some insight into life in the country. Have met up with many chaps that have had long and succesful marriages with ex BGs, also the other side of the coin. I wonder, do other members have similar opinions of the women back in the U.K. that set themselves up as "Trophy Wives"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPayette Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 i don't know which stupefies me more; the endless parade of idiot foreigners here who get themselves involved like this with low-life prostitutes, or the larger picture of how much the economy of this country is BUILT on prostitution. it truly BOGGLES the mind... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Low life prostitues....hmmmmm....not sure what you mean by that. Seems alittle pompous to me and naive. From my experince most are nice young ladies trying to earn a buck in a country that doesn't provide them with much option. They behave a heck of alot better than most English girls out on a Friday night thats for sure and they don't fill every sentence with swearing. Yes there are bad ones but there are just as many horrible girls back home who are what I call sluts. As for the economy built on prostitution.....probably. They have ceratinly enticed millions of people from all over the globe and brought billions of dollars into an otherwise poor nation. Good luck to them ! Where would Thailand be without them, especially as it seems they are kept down and not provided with the necessary education or employment where they can ever earn much money. Bit like South Africa in the good old days eh ? An underclass who provided cheap labour to a tiny elite of wealthy people..........someone's nots stupid. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Blue Unicorn, Thank you for your insiteful comments. I totally agree. I don't know what's up with "Neworks", but sounds like he's had a few bad experiences with BGs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newworks Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 i don't know which stupefies me more; the endless parade of idiot foreigners here who get themselves involved like this with low-life prostitutes, or the larger picture of how much the economy of this country is BUILT on prostitution. it truly BOGGLES the mind... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ==================================================== Well; Mr. "Newworks": I bet you now feel whole lot better for having blown-off steam, huh ?!? Before you 'classify' the Thai Bar-Girls in general as being "low-life prostitutes", perhaps you should learn a little bit more about the why and the how of Thai societity. Your severe insult at these fellow human-beings is totally un-fair and unacceptabe. I, for one, am not surprised that your mind boggles, by your own admission: it's pretty obvious that there's some seriously underdeveloped grey-matter where there could be common sense ! J. Klasema Pattaya-City <{POST_SNAPBACK}> who's blowing off steam? i am well-aware of and in a subsequent post acknowledged the "why and how" to which you refer, and i don't intend to get into a knowledge-of-thai-society-credentials contest with you or anyone else in this forum. i would hold my own, trust me... in my original post i referred to the lovely knife-wielding miss poo as a low-life, and not necessarily prostitutes in general, although it seems that i could have worded my post more thoughtfully. i thought that i clarified that in an earlier subsequent post as well. perhaps you only read the first page or two and then responded... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newworks Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 ... or the larger picture of how much the economy of this country is BUILT on prostitution. it truly BOGGLES the mind... You are kidding right? Unbelievable... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> no. not kidding at all. just in bangkok, can you even begin to estimate the number of women selling their bodies? JUST in bangkok. all the gogo-bars, all the beer bars, all the aab-ob-nuat places, all the massage-delivery places, all the freelancers, all the... jeez, i don't even know what else there is, but i am sure there is plenty. how could all of that, both the "thai-oriented" stuff and all the other stuff that is SO intimately intertwined with the huge tourism industry, NOT be a massive part of the economy??? either you have a different definition of the word "economy" than i do, or you are living in a thailand in an alternate universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanaka Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Maybe the married mother of one worked as a bar girl because her thai husband did not support her or her child. The "friend" the told the swede was a jealous coworker. The swede obviously had no notion of the thai way of non confortation, made a drunken scene in public and commited the ultimate error of making a thai lose face. It would be wise not to be a drunken farang without understanding the culture. The police will take the side of the farang( but not to seriously) because the money comes from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newworks Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 (edited) i don't know which stupefies me more; the endless parade of idiot foreigners here who get themselves involved like this with low-life prostitutes, or the larger picture of how much the economy of this country is BUILT on prostitution. it truly BOGGLES the mind... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Low life prostitues....hmmmmm....not sure what you mean by that. Seems alittle pompous to me and naive. From my experince most are nice young ladies trying to earn a buck in a country that doesn't provide them with much option. They behave a heck of alot better than most English girls out on a Friday night thats for sure and they don't fill every sentence with swearing. Yes there are bad ones but there are just as many horrible girls back home who are what I call sluts. As for the economy built on prostitution.....probably. They have ceratinly enticed millions of people from all over the globe and brought billions of dollars into an otherwise poor nation. Good luck to them ! Where would Thailand be without them, especially as it seems they are kept down and not provided with the necessary education or employment where they can ever earn much money. Bit like South Africa in the good old days eh ? An underclass who provided cheap labour to a tiny elite of wealthy people..........someone's nots stupid. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Blue Unicorn, Thank you for your insiteful comments. I totally agree. I don't know what's up with "Neworks", but sounds like he's had a few bad experiences with BGs. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> i never called anyone evil, although i do think that the societal conditions to which blue uni. and a couple of others have alluded to are somewhat evil. thailand can do better than this, in my humble opinion. as for bad experiences with bargirls, actually not really... i quit while i was ahead a long time ago. Edited January 4, 2006 by newworks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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