Sued For Ten Millions Baht

[JohnJohn]

Hi,

around six years ago I started a relationship with XXXX, we made only wedding party and didn't register our marriage. After one year a male born, and he got my family name on birth certificate. Two years ago, more or less, XXXX started claiming that she would like to have another baby, but I refused. In the meantime we were ruining our relationship. On April 2011, while we were in Phuket for holidays, after an altercation, she flew with our son and went away to live with her family. After a couple of months some common friends told me that she was pregnant. The second baby born on November 2011 and has, on birthday certificate, family name of mother, because I refused to sign the hospital birth statement.

Now XXXX sued me in Juvenile and Family Court for 10.000.000 baht compensation for her and 25.000 monthly support for each child.

When the first baby born she couldn’t make registration at “Amphur” as her ID card was not recognized by the computer

But that time I didn’t care too much.

On August 2011, we were already separeted and I didnt' have any news about her, XXXX changed name, and she registered the second baby after 5 days of birth, (november 2011) and after three months, it means after 5 years of birth, she registered the first born and got his birth certificate from “Amphur”.

What sounds “funny”, it’s:

The number of first and changed name ID card are different

The place of birth of XXXX is different

The name of mother of XXXX is different

But she got all documents from Amphur, with new name.

I would appreciate very much if someone could clarify this situation

John

PS I apologize for my awful English, but I’m not English mother tongue.

Edited May 29, 2012 by JohnJohn

[phl]

what a mess:(, i would only suggest getting a lawyer because it sounds and looks really messed up

[necronx99]

10 million baht compensation for what exactly?

[JohnJohn]

10 million baht compensation for what exactly?

same ex wife bonus/benefit

Edited May 29, 2012 by JohnJohn

[necronx99]

10 million baht compensation for what exactly?

same ex wife bonus/benefit

She was never your wife.

There is child support, maybe 5k per month.

Did you have any joint assets?

[JohnJohn]

10 million baht compensation for what exactly?

same ex wife bonus/benefit

She was never your wife.

There is child support, maybe 5k per month.

Did you have any joint assets?

no, good luck, nothing !

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[phl]

I think the XXXX got advice from a very smart lawyer or a friend.

she is asking for 10 000 000 and has what seems to be all fake documents, HOWEVER OP will need to prove it is fake, ie spend money on the lawyers etc.

so he would start to negotiate, 10 000 000 is a VERY good negotiating point for XXXX,

She is also seeking 25 000 per month, again excellent negotiating point.

If matter does go to court and she gets only 10% of what she is asking she would be doing great.

So, i would get a lawyer now and a good one at that, or you may end up with a very short end of a stick

PS. If she gets court order, even if OP runs away back home, she will be able to get the money through the embassy

Edited May 29, 2012 by phl

[JohnJohn]

I think the XXXX got advice from a very smart lawyer or a friend.

she is asking for 10 000 000 and has what seems to be all fake documents, HOWEVER OP will need to prove it is fake, ie spend money on the lawyers etc.

so he would start to negotiate, 10 000 000 is a VERY good negotiating point for XXXX,

She is also seeking 25 000 per month, again excellent negotiating point.

If matter does go to court and she gets only 10% of what she is asking she would be doing great.

So, i would get a lawyer now and a good one at that, or you may end up with a very short end of a stick

PS. If she gets court order, even if OP runs away back home, she will be able to get the money through the embassy

I got a lawyer already, he seems to be a good one, but I would like to share this experience here, for future memory !!

Thanks !!

[TommoPhysicist]

In Thailand

You were never married to her, you have no responsibility for her children, you are not their father.

Not even worth wasting money on the Thai lawyer.

For a couple married at the Amphur office.

Thai court awards 100bht a day maintenance, not backdated, but from the conclusion of the court case.

Edited May 29, 2012 by TommoPhysicist

[JohnJohn]

In Thailand

You were never married to her, you have no responsibility for her children, you are not their father.

Not even worth wasting money on the Thai lawyer.

For a couple married at the Amphur office.

Thai court awards 100bht a day maintenance, not backdated, but from the conclusion of the court case.

Yes, thanks !

But Family problems in Thailand are slippery !!

I think that I cannot go to the Juvenile Court alone, or don't go at all.

rgds

[farang000999]

has the 2nd child been tested for paternity?

[JohnJohn]

has the 2nd child been tested for paternity?

not yet

[samsiam]

You have not mentioned anything about the children and if you want them or not....only the money.....are they not important to you or have you given up on getting them......in this country, this could be a realistic action.

[metisdead]

A nonsense post advocating murder has been removed.

[Mario2008]

Not married, so you are not the legal father of teh child.

First she can claim you are the legal father, which she will win as you are the father. That opens up the way to claim child support. Child suppor in Thailand is bewteen 3,000 and 6,000 a month with both parents sharing the medical and educational cost.

For the other child a DNA check seems required to determine if you are the father. If you are, the same goes for that child. If not...

Family law is not slipery. A lawyer might be a wise choice.

[Chivas]

I think the XXXX got advice from a very smart lawyer or a friend.

she is asking for 10 000 000 and has what seems to be all fake documents, HOWEVER OP will need to prove it is fake, ie spend money on the lawyers etc.

so he would start to negotiate, 10 000 000 is a VERY good negotiating point for XXXX,

She is also seeking 25 000 per month, again excellent negotiating point.

If matter does go to court and she gets only 10% of what she is asking she would be doing great.

So, i would get a lawyer now and a good one at that, or you may end up with a very short end of a stick

PS. If she gets court order, even if OP runs away back home, she will be able to get the money through the embassy

Embassies are not in the slightest interested in my recent experience....!!

[phl]

I think the XXXX got advice from a very smart lawyer or a friend.

she is asking for 10 000 000 and has what seems to be all fake documents, HOWEVER OP will need to prove it is fake, ie spend money on the lawyers etc.

so he would start to negotiate, 10 000 000 is a VERY good negotiating point for XXXX,

She is also seeking 25 000 per month, again excellent negotiating point.

If matter does go to court and she gets only 10% of what she is asking she would be doing great.

So, i would get a lawyer now and a good one at that, or you may end up with a very short end of a stick

PS. If she gets court order, even if OP runs away back home, she will be able to get the money through the embassy

Embassies are not in the slightest interested in my recent experience....!!

Present them with a court order and see what happens especially when it comes to child support

[JohnJohn]

You have not mentioned anything about the children and if you want them or not....only the money.....are they not important to you or have you given up on getting them......in this country, this could be a realistic action.

As today, I'll think to children next step, now I have to solve the first problem, I mean to understand if XXXX has the rights to sue me for that sum.

Thanks !!

Edited May 30, 2012 by JohnJohn

[Chivas]

I think the XXXX got advice from a very smart lawyer or a friend.

she is asking for 10 000 000 and has what seems to be all fake documents, HOWEVER OP will need to prove it is fake, ie spend money on the lawyers etc.

so he would start to negotiate, 10 000 000 is a VERY good negotiating point for XXXX,

She is also seeking 25 000 per month, again excellent negotiating point.

If matter does go to court and she gets only 10% of what she is asking she would be doing great.

So, i would get a lawyer now and a good one at that, or you may end up with a very short end of a stick

PS. If she gets court order, even if OP runs away back home, she will be able to get the money through the embassy

Embassies are not in the slightest interested in my recent experience....!!

Present them with a court order and see what happens especially when it comes to child support

Ok I'll quantify that by saying British Embassy......

Not in the slightest interested and the words "we do not become embroiled in situations like this".......

Quite happy to forward the email to you.

Approx one week prior to this post.

[beano2274]

Maybe true about the British Embassy, but the OP is not British, and maybe his Embassy have different guidelines.

[Chivas]

Maybe true about the British Embassy, but the OP is not British, and maybe his Embassy have different guidelines.

Yes fair play.....

In the meantime I guess no one can be surprised by the BE's lack of interest......

They take the phrase "not my business" to new levels....

[TommoPhysicist]

Maybe true about the British Embassy, but the OP is not British, and maybe his Embassy have different guidelines.

Yes fair play.....

In the meantime I guess no one can be surprised by the BE's lack of interest......

They take the phrase "not my business" to new levels....

I have never heard of any Thai court order being upheld by any foreign country (for damages, payments, etc).

Not that she has a hope in hell of winning any court order at all in Thailand.

As far as I know you can't even be sued for a specific amount of child maintenance in Thailand.

All they could do is

1) Apply for you to be recognized as father (If you don't voluntarily supply DNA, they can't rule)

2) If recognition as father was done, then they could apply for maintenance (but not specify an amount, not claim in arrears)

I suspect no application has been made to any court and either

1) you are a troll, and the whole story is bo*&^%ks. or

2) they are trying to scare you into a cash settlement.

Edited May 30, 2012 by TommoPhysicist

[Chivas]

Maybe true about the British Embassy, but the OP is not British, and maybe his Embassy have different guidelines.

Yes fair play.....

In the meantime I guess no one can be surprised by the BE's lack of interest......

They take the phrase "not my business" to new levels....

I have never heard of any Thai court order being upheld by any foreign country (for damages, payments, etc).

Not that she has a hope in hell of winning any court order at all in Thailand.

As far as I know you can't even be sued for a specific amount of child maintenance in Thailand.

All they could do is

1) Apply for you to be recognized as father (If you don't voluntarily supply DNA, they can't rule)

2) If recognition as father was done, then they could apply for maintenance (but not specify an amount, not claim in arrears)

I suspect no application has been made to any court and either

1) you are a troll, and the whole story is bo*&^%ks. or

2) they are trying to scare you into a cash settlement.

Are you completely drunk or high on something.....!!

Go back to the OP son and try and grasp the concept that you're abusing the wrong person.........

Nor am I a troll <deleted>.....

Its not my thread-an apology is in order.

[TommoPhysicist]

Are you completely drunk or high on something.....!!

I was replying to the OP, I seem to have included a random quote from you and another poster in my reply.

Sorry, my bad, must have hit "quote" by mistake.

Edited May 30, 2012 by TommoPhysicist

[Chivas]

Are you completely drunk or high on something.....!!

I was replying to the OP, I seem to have included a random quote from you and another poster in my reply.

Sorry, my bad, must have hit "quote" by mistake.

My bad what ?? Whats that supposed to mean in Queen's English...?

You weren't quoting anyone by mistake ..... You quoted Beano who had responded to a post of mine and myself......??

[phl]

Are you completely drunk or high on something.....!!

I was replying to the OP, I seem to have included a random quote from you and another poster in my reply.

Sorry, my bad, must have hit "quote" by mistake.

My bad what ?? Whats that supposed to mean in Queen's English...?

You weren't quoting anyone by mistake ..... You quoted Beano who had responded to a post of mine and myself......??

Chivas, why are you looking for a flame?

This is not addicts site, guy apologized, move on.

What did you expect a bunch of roses and a kiss along with apology?

[JohnJohn]

Maybe true about the British Embassy, but the OP is not British, and maybe his Embassy have different guidelines.

Yes fair play.....

In the meantime I guess no one can be surprised by the BE's lack of interest......

They take the phrase "not my business" to new levels....

I have never heard of any Thai court order being upheld by any foreign country (for damages, payments, etc).

Not that she has a hope in hell of winning any court order at all in Thailand.

As far as I know you can't even be sued for a specific amount of child maintenance in Thailand.

All they could do is

1) Apply for you to be recognized as father (If you don't voluntarily supply DNA, they can't rule)

2) If recognition as father was done, then they could apply for maintenance (but not specify an amount, not claim in arrears)

I suspect no application has been made to any court and either

1) you are a troll, and the whole story is bo*&^%ks. or

2) they are trying to scare you into a cash settlement.

Do you want to bet 10.000.000 Baht ?

I'm ready !!

[Chivas]

Maybe true about the British Embassy, but the OP is not British, and maybe his Embassy have different guidelines.

Yes fair play.....

In the meantime I guess no one can be surprised by the BE's lack of interest......

They take the phrase "not my business" to new levels....

I have never heard of any Thai court order being upheld by any foreign country (for damages, payments, etc).

Not that she has a hope in hell of winning any court order at all in Thailand.

As far as I know you can't even be sued for a specific amount of child maintenance in Thailand.

All they could do is

1) Apply for you to be recognized as father (If you don't voluntarily supply DNA, they can't rule)

2) If recognition as father was done, then they could apply for maintenance (but not specify an amount, not claim in arrears)

I suspect no application has been made to any court and either

1) you are a troll, and the whole story is bo*&^%ks. or

2) they are trying to scare you into a cash settlement.

Do you want to bet 10.000.000 Baht ?

I'm ready !!

So who are you referring too....??

If you want to bet 10 Million Baht that the British Embassy wont assist you than I won't be taking the wager as couldn't agree with you more.....

[Chivas]

Are you completely drunk or high on something.....!!

I was replying to the OP, I seem to have included a random quote from you and another poster in my reply.

Sorry, my bad, must have hit "quote" by mistake.

My bad what ?? Whats that supposed to mean in Queen's English...?

You weren't quoting anyone by mistake ..... You quoted Beano who had responded to a post of mine and myself......??

Chivas, why are you looking for a flame?

This is not addicts site, guy apologized, move on.

What did you expect a bunch of roses and a kiss along with apology?

I wouldn't worry too much about any Sex forum like Addicts too much longer......!

Nor do I believe the OP is a troll.....

[JohnJohn]

I suspect no application has been made to any court and either

1) you are a troll, and the whole story is bo*&^%ks. or

2) they are trying to scare you into a cash settlement.

Do you want to bet 10.000.000 Baht ?

I'm ready !!

I'm referring to this

cheers !

Edited May 30, 2012 by JohnJohn