Election Commission Seeks A Court Ruling To Disqualify Pheu Thai MP Karun

[webfact]

ELECTION COMMISSION

EC seeks court's ruling to disqualify MP Karun

June 20, 2012 2:43 pm

Karun

BANGKOK: -- The Election Commission Wednesday resolved to issue a red-card against Pheu Thai MP Karun Hosakul for allegedly defaming the Democrat Party during election campaigns.

EC Secretary General Phuchong Nutrawong said the EC voted with a majority to file a lawsuit against Karun, the MP of Bangkok's Constituency 12, for allegedly defaming the Democrats and its MP on June 3 and June 12, 2011.

Phuchong said Karun must stop performing his duty as an MP if the court accepts the lawsuit for trial until the court makes a ruling.

The EC is of the opinion that Karun unfairly attacked the Democrat's candidate for Bangkok's Constituency 12, Thaenkhun Jit-isara, while he was campaigning at the Boon Anan Market and Kosoom Ruamjai Market.

Among other things, Phuchong said, Karun alleged that Thaekhun paid voters Bt300 each at the Saphan Mai Market.

Phuchong said the EC would draft a lawsuit against Karun and file charges against him with the Supreme Court's Election Cases Division.

Phuchong said the EC had also dismissed complaints against five MPs. He said the EC had received 154 complaints following the July 3, 2011 election and has yet to consider 10 more complaints.

-- The Nation 2012-06-20

[phiphidon]

So lets get this right, if an MP is sent to trial for allegedly defaming another MP he can be stopped from performing his duties as an MP until the court reaches a decision.

On the other hand an MP who has been charged with premeditated murder gets to waltz around Parliament until the "leader" of that party gets around to making a decision on whether to let him continue coming into parliament as an MP?

Am I missing something here?

Edited June 20, 2012 by phiphidon

[Moruya]

So lets get this right, if an MP is sent to trial for allegedly defaming another MP he can be stopped from performing his duties as an MP until the court reaches a decision.

On the other hand an MP who has been charged with premeditated murder gets to waltz around Parliament until the "leader" of that party gets around to making a decision on whether to let him continue coming into parliament as an MP?

Am I missing something here?

I think the EC has seen enough to red card him. He will now face criminal proceedings.

The Dem who is accused of murder should have done as Aphirak did and stepped down and that the Dems should have forced it.

However when you have the likes of Jatuporn and a handful of others able to flaunt about and continue breaking the law then the standard of personnel in the house just plummets.

Big mistake by Abhisit once again

[RogueExpat]

Am I missing something here?

Yes.

This topic is about the Red Shirt Phua Thai thug, nutter - Ka-run.

Nothing to do with the democrats.

[animatic]

So lets get this right, if an MP is sent to trial for allegedly defaming another MP he can be stopped from performing his duties as an MP until the court reaches a decision.

On the other hand an MP who has been charged with premeditated murder gets to waltz around Parliament until the "leader" of that party gets around to making a decision on whether to let him continue coming into parliament as an MP?

Am I missing something here?

I think the EC has seen enough to red card him. He will now face criminal proceedings.

The Dem who is accused of murder should have done as Aphirak did and stepped down and that the Dems should have forced it.

However when you have the likes of Jatuporn and a handful of others able to flaunt about and continue breaking the law then the standard of personnel in the house just plummets.

Big mistake by Abhisit once again

Has the alleged murder charges been accepted by the courts?

That seems to be the difference between the two cases.

Though I agree he should do what Apirak did.

[shunima]

So lets get this right, if an MP is sent to trial for allegedly defaming another MP he can be stopped from performing his duties as an MP until the court reaches a decision.

On the other hand an MP who has been charged with premeditated murder gets to waltz around Parliament until the "leader" of that party gets around to making a decision on whether to let him continue coming into parliament as an MP?

Am I missing something here?

What you missed...

But you did not miss to hit that button... (your keyboard attached here :-)

Reason for edit: not smart enough to attach files at first.

Edited June 20, 2012 by shunima

[lannarebirth]

So lets get this right, if an MP is sent to trial for allegedly defaming another MP he can be stopped from performing his duties as an MP until the court reaches a decision.

On the other hand an MP who has been charged with premeditated murder gets to waltz around Parliament until the "leader" of that party gets around to making a decision on whether to let him continue coming into parliament as an MP?

Am I missing something here?

You make a good point, but oh and BTW, how's the investigation coming along on the murder of that Democrat canvasser in Pathum Thani? Much progress yet?

[LuckyLew]

Thai politics at its best

[carra]

same shit, different day, both sides are as bad as each other

[lannarebirth]

Thai politics at its best

Mudslinging and murder. It's a dirty business up Don Mueang way.

http://zambia.culturefile.com/don-muang

[phiphidon]

So lets get this right, if an MP is sent to trial for allegedly defaming another MP he can be stopped from performing his duties as an MP until the court reaches a decision.

On the other hand an MP who has been charged with premeditated murder gets to waltz around Parliament until the "leader" of that party gets around to making a decision on whether to let him continue coming into parliament as an MP?

Am I missing something here?

You make a good point, but oh and BTW, how's the investigation coming along on the murder of that Democrat canvasser in Pathum Thani? Much progress yet?

Who knows - was a PTP MP responsible?

[lannarebirth]

So lets get this right, if an MP is sent to trial for allegedly defaming another MP he can be stopped from performing his duties as an MP until the court reaches a decision.

On the other hand an MP who has been charged with premeditated murder gets to waltz around Parliament until the "leader" of that party gets around to making a decision on whether to let him continue coming into parliament as an MP?

Am I missing something here?

You make a good point, but oh and BTW, how's the investigation coming along on the murder of that Democrat canvasser in Pathum Thani? Much progress yet?

Who knows - was a PTP MP responsible?

That's the presumption. Karun has gained wide mention.

[lannarebirth]

PM 'troubled' by murder of Democrat MP's canvasser

The Nation

Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra said yesterday she had instructed the chiefs of the Bangkok and national police forces quickly to find the killer of a canvasser for Democrat Party MP Thankoon Jitissara.

She said she was troubled by Chutidej Suwannakerd's killing, which she described as the sort of incident that should not happen in Thailand.

Asked whether the investigation would be compromised because of allegations that Pheu Thai MPs might be involved in the crime, Yingluck said everything would be done in accordance with the law.

Thankoon, an MP for Bangkok's Don Muang district, is believed to be on a "hit list". Yingluck said she had coordinated with police to provide protection for him.

In a related development, Deputy Prime Minister Chalerm Yoobamrung said the killing of Chutidej could have been either political or personal. Chalerm said he had reminded police to proceed carefully, as a "third hand" sought to create a misunderstanding among the public.

He added that politically motivated killings were not usually carried out in an especially cruel manner, whereas Chutidej had been shot in the mouth.

Asked whether he had spoken to the Pheu Thai MP for Don Muang, Karun Hosakul, Chalerm said he had not, and insisted the case would be handled in a straightforward manner.

National police chief General Priewphan Damaphong held a meeting to discuss the case yesterday for about half an hour. He later said much progress had been made, but it was too early to identify a motive for the killing. Priewphan added, however, that more weight was now being given to personal conflict as the motive, as the victim was a "well-known person" who ran a business trading in Buddhist amulets and had a history of conflict with another traderlast year that led to physical assault(he was assaulted or the other trader?).

Police said mobile-phone records show that the victim had a verbal argument with someone before he was killed(possible for records to show content of conversation?.Thankoon meanwhile said he had no confidence in the police and suspected that a scapegoat would be arrested. He called on Pheu Thai MP Karun to apologise in front of the coffin of his late aide for condescending remarks Karun allegedly made about the victim.

Thankoon vowed not to withdraw from politics despite believing that he may also be marked for death.

[animatic]

So lets get this right, if an MP is sent to trial for allegedly defaming another MP he can be stopped from performing his duties as an MP until the court reaches a decision.

On the other hand an MP who has been charged with premeditated murder gets to waltz around Parliament until the "leader" of that party gets around to making a decision on whether to let him continue coming into parliament as an MP?

Am I missing something here?

You make a good point, but oh and BTW, how's the investigation coming along on the murder of that Democrat canvasser in Pathum Thani? Much progress yet?

Who knows - was a PTP MP responsible?

That's the presumption. Karun has gained wide mention.

Who stands to benefit?

[Orac]

Though the Thai parliament would undoubtably be a better place without the likes of Karun in it given his past history, I find it ironic that the only specific charge mentioned is of accusing someone of vote buying. Something that is said to be widespread across the political spectrum but strangely invisible to the EC that are responsible for dealing with it.

Edited June 20, 2012 by Orac

[Buchholz]

Am I missing something here?

Yes.

This topic is about the Red Shirt Phua Thai thug, nutter - Ka-run.

Nothing to do with the democrats.

Another Red Shirt Leader Pheu Thai Party MP Out On Bail with a long history of violence whether it's physically attacking another MP, inciting others to violence while on a Red Shirt stage, or just some old-fashioned spouse abuse, this "vile scum" highlights the present administration.

An outstanding Red Shirt Leader, an impressive Pheu Thai MP, and a loving husband.

Quote:

A violent history

>> Karun Hosakul, 41, allegedly beat his former wife, Ratchadawan. In April 2005, she divorced him.

>> Two months after the divorce, Karun attacked her at Don Mueang Airport as she returned from a trip abroad. Karun grabbed her hair, slapped her and threatened to disfigure her. She was rescued by airport guards.

>> In 2006, Karun assaulted a guard at an abandoned cinema, when he and his friends were refused entry. He kicked the guard twice in the head, reportedly shouting: "I will be back. Don't you know who I am?"

>> In 2007, as a Bangkok City Councillor, Karun head-butted an undercover policeman at a cockfight

>> In 2005, Karun was stopped from contesting a Bangkok seat because he lacked the educational qualifications required.

Unquote.

Vile scum.

Edited June 20, 2012 by Buchholz

[Buchholz]

Thankoon meanwhile said he had no confidence in the police and suspected that a scapegoat would be arrested. He called on Pheu Thai MP Karun to apologise in front of the coffin of his late aide for condescending remarks Karun allegedly made about the victim.

Karun has never been held accountable for a long list of misdeeds.

Seems he's now added speaking ill of the dead to his repertoire.

Has he also escalated to add murder to his bag of tricks?

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Edited June 20, 2012 by Buchholz

[Crushdepth]

So lets get this right, if an MP is sent to trial for allegedly defaming another MP he can be stopped from performing his duties as an MP until the court reaches a decision.

On the other hand an MP who has been charged with premeditated murder gets to waltz around Parliament until the "leader" of that party gets around to making a decision on whether to let him continue coming into parliament as an MP?

Am I missing something here?

You appear to be missing half your brain. The country is run by a criminal fugitive (or his sister, depending on your point of view). Deputy PM Chalerm has an interesting legal history and Deputy PM Yongyuth is currently up on malfeasance, yet PTP are happy to keep them in these posts. PTP has several party list candidates that were charged with terrorism, one that was convicted of bribing court officials with a snack box full of cash (coincidentally he was a lawyer working for the aforementioned criminal fugitive). Chalerm's son, current advisor to the transport minister, has also faced charges related to the shooting of a police officer (happily he was acquitted, although his Glock was found at the scene).

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/home/Wanchalerm-denies-role-93087.html

...you want I should continue, or has the point been sufficiently made?

Edited June 20, 2012 by Crushdepth

[bigbamboo]

So lets get this right, if an MP is sent to trial for allegedly defaming another MP he can be stopped from performing his duties as an MP until the court reaches a decision.

On the other hand an MP who has been charged with premeditated murder gets to waltz around Parliament until the "leader" of that party gets around to making a decision on whether to let him continue coming into parliament as an MP?

Am I missing something here?

You appear to be missing half your brain. The country is run by a criminal fugitive (or his sister, depending on your point of view). Deputy PM Chalerm has an interesting legal history and Deputy PM Yongyuth is currently up on malfeasance, yet PTP are happy to keep them in these posts. PTP has several party list candidates that were charged with terrorism, one that was convicted of bribing court officials with a snack box full of cash (coincidentally he was a lawyer working for the aforementioned criminal fugitive). Chalerm's son, current advisor to the transport minister, has also faced charges related to the shooting of a police officer (happily he was acquitted, although his Glock was found at the scene).

http://www.nationmul...role-93087.html

...you want I should continue, or has the point been sufficiently made?

This Karun sounds like a charming chap just like so many others in positions of power here.

One thing is certainly true in Thai politics..... the scum always seems to rise to the top.

Edited June 20, 2012 by bigbamboo

[MEL1]

So lets get this right, if an MP is sent to trial for allegedly defaming another MP he can be stopped from performing his duties as an MP until the court reaches a decision.

On the other hand an MP who has been charged with premeditated murder gets to waltz around Parliament until the "leader" of that party gets around to making a decision on whether to let him continue coming into parliament as an MP?

Am I missing something here?

You appear to be missing half your brain. The country is run by a criminal fugitive (or his sister, depending on your point of view). Deputy PM Chalerm has an interesting legal history and Deputy PM Yongyuth is currently up on malfeasance, yet PTP are happy to keep them in these posts. PTP has several party list candidates that were charged with terrorism, one that was convicted of bribing court officials with a snack box full of cash (coincidentally he was a lawyer working for the aforementioned criminal fugitive). Chalerm's son, current advisor to the transport minister, has also faced charges related to the shooting of a police officer (happily he was acquitted, although his Glock was found at the scene).

http://www.nationmul...role-93087.html

...you want I should continue, or has the point been sufficiently made?

One thing is certainly true in Thai politics..... the scum always seems to rise to the top.

Erm.. may I add a few adjecives please?

"bent, corrupt and, therefore, becoming 'richer' scum rise to the top!"

-mel.

[webfact]

EC red cards Pheu Thai MP Karun for slander

The Nation

MP vows to fight case in court while Democrat complainant Tankhun says he will contest the resulting by-election

BANGKOK: -- The Election Commission, with a majority vote, yesterday decided to give Bangkok's Constituency 12 MP Karun Hosakul a red card, withdrawing his election rights. The commission ruled Karun guilty of slandering Democrat candidate Tankhun Jitt-itsara during the election campaign.

The EC will hand the case to the Supreme Court's Election Cases Division and if the court accepts the complaint, Karun must cease his duties as an MP until the court issues its ruling. In the past, the Supreme Court has usually ruled along with the EC.

Karun yesterday accepted the EC's decision and said he would seek advice from his legal team on the court hearing. However, he said the ruling didn't bother him unduly.

"In politics, sometimes we might feel uncomfortable or disappointed but I am still confident about my actions. I didn't try to defame [anyone] and my words didn't specify anyone. This should be a case study, saying that we can't speak [about] anything." Karun said.

Asked who would be the Pheu Thai Party candidate if the court went along with the EC decision, Karun said the party had many choices as Constituency 12 is his base. But they would have to decide later who was the most suitable.

Karun said he would fight the EC decision in the Supreme Court with sincerity. "That will prove our ability. Only the way of democracy will allow the country to move forward," said Karun.

Tankhun, the Democrat candidate, yesterday told The Nation that he would run as a candidate in the by-election.

He said he is preparing for the campaign, where security will be an issue after his canvasser was shot during the previous election. He said that he would begin planning with his party today, and seek special security from police during the campaign.

"I will have to be extra careful. However, I feel more confident about this by-election campaign than the last one," said Tankhun.

He is confident that Karun will be prohibited from running as a candidate if the court ruling supports the EC. However, he believes the Pheu Thai could field Karun's wife as candidate.

Tankhun also said he believed there was public misunderstanding over what was behind Karun being handed a red card. Some were accusing him, Tankhun, of political defamation. He would arrange a press conference this week to explain the truth, to thank the EC and to announce himself as the Democrat candidate.

"I feel glad to see justice even though it took long, a year since I filed the case. But I hope people will give me a chance this time." Tankhun said.

On June 17, 2011 Tankhun filed a complaint with the EC in Bangkok to have Karun withdrawn as the Pheu Thai candidate, "for slandering or inducing misunderstanding in the popularity of any candidate or political party following the Electoral law, Article 53 of the penal code."

The EC decided "it was of the opinion that Karun unfairly attacked Tankhun on personal issues and defamed [him by claiming] that Tankhun paid voters Bt300 each at Saphan Mai Market".

-- The Nation 2012-06-21

[Buchholz]

Like Jatuporn, yet another Criminal Red Shirt Leader masquerading as an MP is shown the exit door,

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Edited June 21, 2012 by Buchholz

[Moruya]

Like Jatuporn, yet another Criminal Red Shirt Leader masquerading as an MP is shown the exit door,

.

and a very interesting by-election to follow

[Skywalker69]

So lets get this right, if an MP is sent to trial for allegedly defaming another MP he can be stopped from performing his duties as an MP until the court reaches a decision.

On the other hand an MP who has been charged with premeditated murder gets to waltz around Parliament until the "leader" of that party gets around to making a decision on whether to let him continue coming into parliament as an MP?

Am I missing something here?

Yes, your medicine.

[Skywalker69]

So lets get this right, if an MP is sent to trial for allegedly defaming another MP he can be stopped from performing his duties as an MP until the court reaches a decision.

On the other hand an MP who has been charged with premeditated murder gets to waltz around Parliament until the "leader" of that party gets around to making a decision on whether to let him continue coming into parliament as an MP?

Am I missing something here?

You appear to be missing half your brain. The country is run by a criminal fugitive (or his sister, depending on your point of view). Deputy PM Chalerm has an interesting legal history and Deputy PM Yongyuth is currently up on malfeasance, yet PTP are happy to keep them in these posts. PTP has several party list candidates that were charged with terrorism, one that was convicted of bribing court officials with a snack box full of cash (coincidentally he was a lawyer working for the aforementioned criminal fugitive). Chalerm's son, current advisor to the transport minister, has also faced charges related to the shooting of a police officer (happily he was acquitted, although his Glock was found at the scene).

http://www.nationmul...role-93087.html

...you want I should continue, or has the point been sufficiently made?

Agreed.

[brd199]

the EC would draft a lawsuit against Karun and file charges against him with the Supreme Court's Election Cases Division

The Nation May 9, 2013

Pheu Thai MP Karun Hosakul disqualified by Supreme Court

The Supreme Court's Election Division Thursday disqualified Karun Hosakul as Pheu Thai MP for Bangkok's Constituency 12 for defaming Democrat candidate Thaenkhun Jit-isara.

The Supreme Court found Karun guilty of defaming Thaenkhun in a way that affected the election result.

The court found that Karun violated the MPs and Senators Election Act by attacking Thaenkhun's background and alleging that he posted for nude photos in a gay magazine.

The court ordered a by-election in Bangkok's Constituency 12.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/Pheu-Thai-MP-Karun-Hosakul-disqualified-by-Supreme-30205760.html

[waza]

I guess Karun has been moved to an inactive post

[GentlemanJim]

the EC would draft a lawsuit against Karun and file charges against him with the Supreme Court's Election Cases Division

The Nation May 9, 2013

Pheu Thai MP Karun Hosakul disqualified by Supreme Court

The Supreme Court's Election Division Thursday disqualified Karun Hosakul as Pheu Thai MP for Bangkok's Constituency 12 for defaming Democrat candidate Thaenkhun Jit-isara.

The Supreme Court found Karun guilty of defaming Thaenkhun in a way that affected the election result.

The court found that Karun violated the MPs and Senators Election Act by attacking Thaenkhun's background and alleging that he posted for nude photos in a gay magazine.

The court ordered a by-election in Bangkok's Constituency 12.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/Pheu-Thai-MP-Karun-Hosakul-disqualified-by-Supreme-30205760.html

Excellent update thanks.

[Robby nz]

Probably go back to being a red shirt leader like his mate Jatuporn.

[slapout]

Wonder if Pheu Thai will be required to pay for the election for a replacement?

They cited health reasons for the CM mp who resigned, an subsquently replaced by sister, thus they were not liable.