george Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 Two-timing husbands foiled by cheat-proof marriage registrations BANGKOK: -- Two-timers -- already married men who marry again -- will be blocked from deceiving women into additional marriages by new registration recommendations by a Thammasat University researcher. Marriage registrations should be allowed only in the home town of either the husband or the wife, said an academic from Thammasat's Faculty of Law, and the registrar should be held accountable for making sure that no party has ever registered before. The two measures are recommended as deterrents against the current rampant duplication of marriage registration as practiced by Thai men. Asst. Prof. Mataluck Or-rungroj of Thammasat University's Faculty of Law was commissioned by the Ministry of Social Development and Human Security to research discrimination against women --to assist in drafting a new law that will give equal rights and opportunities to women. In the final report of her research, she proposed to resolve the problem of already-married Thai men luring other women by registering new marriages, usually in different localities. First, the researcher said, the registrar must check the data of both men and women applying for marriage registration -- to make sure that neither party was married legally before. Failure to conduct thorough check would be deemed the offence of dereliction of duty on the registrar's part. Secondly, she recommended that marriage registrations be allowed only in the home locality of either the man or the woman, instead of anywhere -- as is the case right now -- which leads to duplication. Thirdly, a minimum period of residency in certain locality must be clarified by the law before a man is allowed to register the marriage, otherwise some men can just keep moving home and registering a marriage wherever they move to, said Dr. Mataluck. Kingkaew Inwang, Deputy Director of the Women's Affairs and Family Development Office of the Ministry, said the Office has received Dr. Mataluck's final research report and agreed with the overall fndings. However, implementation of the researcher's recommendations or not is subject to detailed consideration, and depends upon the outcome of that process, Mrs. Kingkaew said. --TNA 2006-01-09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khutan Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 Wouldn't a central Database fix all that ? I thought all the information including fingerprints etc was already on file when the IDcard is applied for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marquess Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 Two-timing husbands foiled by cheat-proof marriage registrationsBANGKOK: -- Two-timers -- already married men who marry again -- will be blocked from deceiving women into additional marriages by new registration recommendations by a Thammasat University researcher. Marriage registrations should be allowed only in the home town of either the husband or the wife, said an academic from Thammasat's Faculty of Law, and the registrar should be held accountable for making sure that no party has ever registered before. The two measures are recommended as deterrents against the current rampant duplication of marriage registration as practiced by Thai men. Asst. Prof. Mataluck Or-rungroj of Thammasat University's Faculty of Law was commissioned by the Ministry of Social Development and Human Security to research discrimination against women --to assist in drafting a new law that will give equal rights and opportunities to women. In the final report of her research, she proposed to resolve the problem of already-married Thai men luring other women by registering new marriages, usually in different localities. First, the researcher said, the registrar must check the data of both men and women applying for marriage registration -- to make sure that neither party was married legally before. Failure to conduct thorough check would be deemed the offence of dereliction of duty on the registrar's part. Secondly, she recommended that marriage registrations be allowed only in the home locality of either the man or the woman, instead of anywhere -- as is the case right now -- which leads to duplication. Thirdly, a minimum period of residency in certain locality must be clarified by the law before a man is allowed to register the marriage, otherwise some men can just keep moving home and registering a marriage wherever they move to, said Dr. Mataluck. Kingkaew Inwang, Deputy Director of the Women's Affairs and Family Development Office of the Ministry, said the Office has received Dr. Mataluck's final research report and agreed with the overall fndings. However, implementation of the researcher's recommendations or not is subject to detailed consideration, and depends upon the outcome of that process, Mrs. Kingkaew said. --TNA 2006-01-09 Wouldn't it just be simpler to have a computerised system?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ijustwannateach Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 Ah, the old "we will fix the problem by pinning responsibility on the lowest, least-well paid person in the hierarchy who also has the busiest job and the fewest resources." More government propaganda, nothing more. "Steven" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard10365 Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 What a sexisit recommendation. No wonder women have no power in Thailand. I like the way she pinned this on the men. You don't suppose there are any girls down in places like Pattaya doing the same thing to love sick farangs? I'm sure there are pleanty of 2 timing women running around Thailand as well. I don't think this sexist recommendation will get passed into law until she takes out the sexist remarks. Then the law will be equal to both men and women. Did I mention how sexist this sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeaceBlondie Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 Yes, you mentioned it. Also, aren't a lot of Thai men and women legally married to one partner, and having a long-term affair with another partner? Those relationships aren't registered. Now that I've been divorced for twenty years, I don't remember why it all matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astral Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 Unofficial "Mai Noi" are very common and this new move will not affect these relationships one iota. From what I have seen many Thai's just do not worry about the government marriage certificate at all. The Buddhist ceremony is much more important and that does not need government sanction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard10365 Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 According to the article, she was commissioned by the Ministry of Social Development and Human Security to research discrimination against women --to assist in drafting a new law that will give equal rights and opportunities to women. I think she strayed a bit of topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NedKelly Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 I reckon a lot of local registrars will be quitting their jobs soon. Or, mayb ethey will see it as a way of making more under the table cash in hand !! More risk = higher baksheesh or tea money as it's called here. But what a serious waste of money to pay a Uni researcher to come up with this recomendation........I assume it was a woman......that puts ethical doubts in mind right away.......and the actual recomendation is at best lacking any vision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chang_paarp Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 I think you will find the esteemed researcher has spent time in the west getting the qualifications and attitude adjustment that come from "liberal arts" study in popular institutions. It sounds just like the research and sugestions that eminate from the "wimmins study" networks. In Oz we have whole government departments that have nothing better to do than pay someone else to create the research that agrees with their ideology. Let us hope this person is not alowed to spread this poison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaivisitor Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 Two-timing husbands foiled by cheat-proof marriage registrationsBANGKOK: -- Two-timers -- already married men who marry again -- will be blocked from deceiving women into additional marriages by new registration recommendations by a Thammasat University researcher. Marriage registrations should be allowed only in the home town of either the husband or the wife, said an academic from Thammasat's Faculty of Law, and the registrar should be held accountable for making sure that no party has ever registered before. However, implementation of the researcher's recommendations or not is subject to detailed consideration, and depends upon the outcome of that process, Mrs. Kingkaew said. --TNA 2006-01-09 hahaha, and they call this "cheat proof"... hahahahahahahahahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nam Kao Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 Are STs still ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard10365 Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Kinda makes you wonder about the quality of lawyers being produced at Thammasat University's Faculty of Law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_heart_thief Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 Kinda makes you wonder about the quality of lawyers being produced at Thammasat University's Faculty of Law. Awwwwww. Come on. They kinda make sense this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard10365 Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 Kinda makes you wonder about the quality of lawyers being produced at Thammasat University's Faculty of Law. Awwwwww. Come on. They kinda make sense this time. Yes....about as much sense as another famous Thai man who said he would eliminate poverty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lingyai Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 So exactly what are most of you whining about? What is unreasonable about this proposal? Why not spell it out instead of attacking the woman (hey it’s a woman, why is she educated in the first place right, is that what you are thinking?) who came up this idea? Maybe you can get married a few times more before a idea like this becomes law, get on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard10365 Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 So exactly what are most of you whining about? What is unreasonable about this proposal? Why not spell it out instead of attacking the woman (hey it’s a woman, why is she educated in the first place right, is that what you are thinking?) who came up this idea?Maybe you can get married a few times more before a idea like this becomes law, get on it. I did spell it out (you don't read very well). Women in Thailand are guilty of this too. It is a sexist proposal. Take out the sexist remarks and make it equal for men and women. If not, its a joke and male lawmakers will not take it seriously. I already know its a woman who came up with this idea and my comments have nothing to do with her education (although I am starting to wonder about yours). Why not add it also wants to protect men from women from Pattaya or Phuket doing the same thing to love struck men from the west. They come here for a vacation and fall in love with a girl. The girl seems completly in love with the man but little does he know that in her province in another part of Thailand she is married with a family. She also has boyfriends from 4 different countries sending her money every month. This too is a common pratice in Thailand because the women who work in these areas come from all over Thailand. My point is, take out the reference to gender and the proposal will pass. Keep them in and the University that hired the independent researcher will have wasted their money on a law that will never get passed by a body of law makers who are by majority men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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