A Friend Of Mine Has Not Bothered To Register His Son As Dual Citizen

[hotandhumid]

My son will be 8 in August.

He has dual nationality and I DID spend the time and money to get an official translation of his Thai birth certificate and registered his birth at the UK Embassy.

His first passport has expired and I will get him another one soon.

We were married at the time and my wife asked me to get him the English nationality, birth certificate and passport though I did tell her at the time I was doing it anyway.

And your point is what exactly? No disrespect but I didn't put up this thread so everyone can tell the world about their sprogs.

[hotandhumid]

My kids are nearly five and six and I haven't done it yet . I'm not going to bother either . People seem to be confusing registering the birth and obtaining a passport . i can only speak for UK nationals but if you don't register the birth it doesn't mean you can't get a passport . All it means is that the child will not have an issued in the UK birth certificate . I don't really see the issue here .

As for the passports . Any child born after June 2006 has an automatic claim to citizenship if their father was born in the UK whether the child was born in or our of wedlock . I asked about this at the embassy myself when my children were born . Even for children born before June 2006 if the parents later married then that would legitamize the birth and citizenship would be granted .

I haven't done my kids' passports yet because I know that they can be done any time and we haven't needed to as we've only gone to neighbouring countries where the THai passport was easier . However , we're moving to the Middle East this year so I will be doing it soon . I don't anticipate any problems .

Interesting stuff, and I do seem to recall reading this somewhere before.

So when you go to apply for your sons passport a translated copy of the Thai birth cert suffices I assume?

[Jayman]

My son will be 8 in August.

He has dual nationality and I DID spend the time and money to get an official translation of his Thai birth certificate and registered his birth at the UK Embassy.

His first passport has expired and I will get him another one soon.

We were married at the time and my wife asked me to get him the English nationality, birth certificate and passport though I did tell her at the time I was doing it anyway.

And your point is what exactly? No disrespect but I didn't put up this thread so everyone can tell the world about their sprogs.

I think it's been made clear that you put up this thread to have a dig at your "mate" behind his back.. well done.

[Jayman]

My kids are nearly five and six and I haven't done it yet . I'm not going to bother either . People seem to be confusing registering the birth and obtaining a passport . i can only speak for UK nationals but if you don't register the birth it doesn't mean you can't get a passport . All it means is that the child will not have an issued in the UK birth certificate . I don't really see the issue here .

As for the passports . Any child born after June 2006 has an automatic claim to citizenship if their father was born in the UK whether the child was born in or our of wedlock . I asked about this at the embassy myself when my children were born . Even for children born before June 2006 if the parents later married then that would legitamize the birth and citizenship would be granted .

I haven't done my kids' passports yet because I know that they can be done any time and we haven't needed to as we've only gone to neighbouring countries where the THai passport was easier . However , we're moving to the Middle East this year so I will be doing it soon . I don't anticipate any problems .

Interesting stuff, and I do seem to recall reading this somewhere before.

So when you go to apply for your sons passport a translated copy of the Thai birth cert suffices I assume?

Do you even have a kid?

http://ukinthailand.fco.gov.uk/en/help-for-british-nationals/living-in-thailand/how-register-birth/

Edited June 27, 2012 by Jayman

[hotandhumid]

My son will be 8 in August.

He has dual nationality and I DID spend the time and money to get an official translation of his Thai birth certificate and registered his birth at the UK Embassy.

His first passport has expired and I will get him another one soon.

We were married at the time and my wife asked me to get him the English nationality, birth certificate and passport though I did tell her at the time I was doing it anyway.

And your point is what exactly? No disrespect but I didn't put up this thread so everyone can tell the world about their sprogs.

I think it's been made clear that you put up this thread to have a dig at your "mate" behind his back.. well done.

???????? I don't see anything that's been made clear colonel....now on your way now.

[Jayman]

Long story short...guy I know has a 4 year old son with a Thai woman, they are still together but the relationship isn't a good one, to say the least.

Anyway, I found out just recently that he hasn't bothered to register his son at the British embassy as a British citizen, the only reason is that he doesn't want to spend the Bt10,000.00 that is cost, but is quite happy to piss that up the wall in the bar. Plus he is probably too lazy to do the paperwork etc...

I am pretty stunned by this, as I have a son myself and getting him British citizenship was one of the first things I did, for obvious reasons.

For me this is pretty close to neglect, or am I over reacting? Surely he will be limiting his sons opportunitys when he grows up.

What do the wise old folk of tv think of this? I will expect the usual it isn't any of my biz, live and live live responses etc...but this doesn't sit well with me and I don't think of him in the same light as I once did...

Let's look at your OP... asking us to give you opinions on your friends actions. Telling us you don't see him in the same light anymore.

I wonder what light he would see you in if he saw this thread you started.

Then you have the nerve to tell folks this thread isn't about them it's about your mate. Already many of your posts from this thread have been DELETED by mods for that.

What are you really asking for in this thread mate? I gave you the link to the rules for UK citizenship. Are you thinking to adopt the child as your own? The way you are answering to other posts will turn this thread into a troll fest.

What is your goal with this thread eh?

In case you missed it, here it is again http://ukinthailand.fco.gov.uk/en/help-for-british-nationals/living-in-thailand/how-register-birth/

all you need to know about UK citizenship for foreign born children. Simple 2 sec search on google would have given you all the answers you needed if you were truly concerned and wanted to assist your mate.

Again, it seems very clear to me your intention is just to gossip about him. Great mate indeed.

Edited June 27, 2012 by Jayman

[Mario2008]

Many countries also have a thrid option, namely that the child or mother files a paternity suit. Competent legal advise is required to see if that is an option and what the differences will be with the father simply recognising the child.

[bermondburi]

My kids are nearly five and six and I haven't done it yet . I'm not going to bother either . People seem to be confusing registering the birth and obtaining a passport . i can only speak for UK nationals but if you don't register the birth it doesn't mean you can't get a passport . All it means is that the child will not have an issued in the UK birth certificate . I don't really see the issue here .

As for the passports . Any child born after June 2006 has an automatic claim to citizenship if their father was born in the UK whether the child was born in or our of wedlock . I asked about this at the embassy myself when my children were born . Even for children born before June 2006 if the parents later married then that would legitamize the birth and citizenship would be granted .

I haven't done my kids' passports yet because I know that they can be done any time and we haven't needed to as we've only gone to neighbouring countries where the THai passport was easier . However , we're moving to the Middle East this year so I will be doing it soon . I don't anticipate any problems .

Interesting stuff, and I do seem to recall reading this somewhere before.

So when you go to apply for your sons passport a translated copy of the Thai birth cert suffices I assume?

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A certified translation of the birth certificate and any other relevant documents like a marriage certificate etc.

[PattayaParent]

Good replies so far...I was expecting the usual 'mind your own business' 'live and let live' type of replies..

I believe there is no time frame now to do this, so my chum still can do it, but if he hasn't done it already I can't see it happening now....disgraceful IMO.

There's no need to register the kid at the Embassy in order to get a passport.

[Mario2008]

The fact if they are married or not might be of importance, as legally only when they are marreid is he the legal father of the child (unless he recognizes the child as his).