Chuwit Demands Urgent Crackdown On Bangkok Gambling Den

[EyesWideOpen]

I guess Chuwit's previous efforts , Shut Down the Gambling Dens verson 1.0 , did not have much of an effect. But that one was a sort of generic strike against mysterious people of dark influence. But the new Shut Down the Gambling Dens version 2.0 seems to have a much more specific target, namely The Family ( Thaksin). Sort of makes me wonder if this is not being done with the guidance of much higher powers.........

One a side note wasn't the former Thai chief of police sacked due to supposedly allowing gambling to freely operate, and then a Thaksin relative installed in his place?? Does this latest story mean he will be sacked as well?? He is a Thaksin relative so I suppose not.......

Edited July 5, 2012 by EyesWideOpen

[OzMick]

Actually, yes. Although a reference was made in that direction, there was no suggestion that he was involved personally. Rather than a sniper shot, it was more like a double-barrel shotgun blast at his whole criminal conspiracy family and puppet government. I hope he keeps it up.Remember that the last CoP was removed for failing to crack down on gambling, and Chalerm has assured us that there are no gambling dens operating, and shortly Thailand will be drug-free. Where is the former moral outrage and rush to investigate?

all i'm asking is if you think his issue and goal is 'gambling' or 'thaksin'

and i'm satisfied with what you've answered just now, that you didn't insult your own intelligence and can see the reality.

cheers.

Refer to post #45.

yeah i seen it, still doesn't answer whether you think this about his genuine concern on the plight of gambling in thailand or is it an attempt to sling mud at thaksin and ptp...

I'll try to make it plainer - his target is police corruption, the vehicle to attack that is gambling. When you nepotistically promote a member of your family to the position responsible for police corruption (the buck stops here - keep them coming!) and he does little to correct the situation, don't be surprised if a little colateral damage comes your way. Applies double if as suggested, other members of the family are directly involved.

[softgeorge]

it is in the nature of most people in the SE Asia region to gamble and Thailand is no exception. Just about anything can be used as an opportunity to bet. There are transboundary lotteries, football matches, illegal bookmaking at the races, boxing matches, cockfights and fish fights. A recent report in the Bangkok Post newspaper stated that "Each year, the gambling world in Thailand turns over 320 million Baht. Around 110 million of this goes to gambling dens, 92 million goes to underground lotteries, 51 million goes on football bets and about 38 million to the state-run lottery"

Gambling is a major source of income for the black economy, including drug trafficking, tax evasion, illicit arms trade, prostitution and illegal logging to mention a few.

There are moves to legalise gambling to increase the state revenue, promote tourism, create new businesses and jobs, and decrease the amount of illegal cash in circulation.

Where else to have a flutter?

The neighbouring countries of Laos and Cambodia have reacted to Thailand's ban on gambling by setting up casinos just across the border.

At the Aranyaprathet border post there are no less than 7 casinos awaiting you on the Cambodian side at Poipet.

• Holiday Poipet
  
• Golden Crown Club
  
• Grand Diamond City
  
• Holiday Palace
  
• Star Vegas Entertainment
  
• Tropicana Resort
  
• Princess Hotel
  

Most of the customers are Thais. The border is open from 09.00 to 17:00 and officially a visa is needed to travel into Cambodia but we understand that there are Cambodian brokers who will get you into the casino compound if you do not have your passport available.

http://www.amazing-thailand.com/Casinos.html

[nurofiend]

I'll try to make it plainer - his target is police corruption, the vehicle to attack that is gambling. When you nepotistically promote a member of your family to the position responsible for police corruption (the buck stops here - keep them coming!) and he does little to correct the situation, don't be surprised if a little colateral damage comes your way. Applies double if as suggested, other members of the family are directly involved.

his target isn't police corruption.. is that seriously not obvious to you? rhetorical question, i know your stance now.

[Thaddeus]

I'll try to make it plainer - his target is police corruption, the vehicle to attack that is gambling. When you nepotistically promote a member of your family to the position responsible for police corruption (the buck stops here - keep them coming!) and he does little to correct the situation, don't be surprised if a little colateral damage comes your way. Applies double if as suggested, other members of the family are directly involved.

his target isn't police corruption.. is that seriously not obvious to you? rhetorical question, i know your stance now.

Who says he only has one target.

[chooka]

Wasn't Thailand considering building Casinos to attract the tourist dollar that is currently being spent in other S/E asian countries?

[OzMick]

I'll try to make it plainer - his target is police corruption, the vehicle to attack that is gambling. When you nepotistically promote a member of your family to the position responsible for police corruption (the buck stops here - keep them coming!) and he does little to correct the situation, don't be surprised if a little colateral damage comes your way. Applies double if as suggested, other members of the family are directly involved.

his target isn't police corruption.. is that seriously not obvious to you? rhetorical question, i know your stance now.

Took long enough to grasp! Chuwit has made plain statements that he is against police corruption after being forced to pay millions in bribes in his former business. His past actions have backed those statements. Why is it surprising that The Shinawatra clan gets a mention when one of them is the Chief of Police and another is alleged to be in the illegal gambling business?

[Moruya]

Just how deep is this government's involvement here?

Shinawatra, Damapong, Yoobamrung?

thaksin was dealing the cards

And you're the joker.

Hi Moruya! How are you?

Bloody marvelous thanks mate.

[MunterHunter]

Clandestine operations occur all the time in Thailand. It's how they arrested many of the redshirts. They also undertake these clandestine operations when catching some of the drugdealers. The allegations of large gambling dens are sufficiently serious to involve the DSI, especially since it would mean that there was widescale police corruption. The reality is that until someone brings forward a serious complaint and insists on intervention, nothing will happen. Mr. Chuwit has more tools at his disposal than most anyone else to attack police corruption. Nothing is stopping him from holding hearings on the subject. Or rather I should say, that if he had the support of the Democrat opposition party he could force hearings into the subject. For the life of me, I don't understand why the Democrats won't support the man.

I wondered how long it would take yo uto start attacking the Democrats on this.

Please stay on topic GK, you know the rules better than most here

[Skywalker69]

If all things illegal were rooted out & stopped what would happen

There would be a lot of unemployed policemen.

+ alot less "mia noi´s.

[MunterHunter]

If all things illegal were rooted out & stopped what would happen

There would be a lot of unemployed policemen.

+ alot less "mia noi´s.

Knife sales will go up

and a lot more crime... those cops gotta supplement there (lack of) income somehow

[billd766]

Gambling is illegal in Thailand as is prostitution, however without these two major industries Thailand would probably lose half it's gross income.

As with most things Thai, a blind eye is always preferred to confrontation, especially when a nice little earner is made by all.

If all things illegal were rooted out & stopped what would happen to all our city centre entrepreneurs & beach resorts ??

It would improve no end and more punters would come to Thailand.

[OzMick]

I guess Chuwit's previous efforts , Shut Down the Gambling Dens verson 1.0 , did not have much of an effect. But that one was a sort of generic strike against mysterious people of dark influence. But the new Shut Down the Gambling Dens version 2.0 seems to have a much more specific target, namely The Family ( Thaksin). Sort of makes me wonder if this is not being done with the guidance of much higher powers.........

One a side note wasn't the former Thai chief of police sacked due to supposedly allowing gambling to freely operate, and then a Thaksin relative installed in his place?? Does this latest story mean he will be sacked as well?? He is a Thaksin relative so I suppose not.......

Due for compulsory retirement in about 3 months

[Ferangled]

Chuwit has made plain statements that he is against police corruption after being forced to pay millions in bribes in his former business. His past actions have backed those statements. Why is it surprising that The Shinawatra clan gets a mention when one of them is the Chief of Police and another is alleged to be in the illegal gambling business?

Chuwit paid bribes to keep his illegal prostitution business running... police corruption exists because of the likes of Chuwit!

You painting him as a poor innocent businessman being forced to pay bribes is either incredibly naive or deliberately deceitful. Which is it I wonder Mick?

If he wasn't engaged in an illegal enterprise he wouldn't have had to pay anyone to keep quiet, why? Because there would have been nothing for anyone to keep quiet about!!!

You seem to miss the point that without those seeking to conduct illegal enterprises and paying whatever it takes to achieve their aims, there would be no corruption.

For one who likes to give off the impression of being a crusader for justice (at least when it comes to obssessing over one man/ family) you are incredibly selective in your reasoning to the point of being totally blinkered.

[LuckyLew]

This just in ... gambling den has been relocated

[sjjmmi]

This just in ... gambling den has been relocated

+ 10

[saltandpepper]

This just in ... gambling den has been relocated

+ 10

And a new one has been added next to it in order to cover the loss of earnings

[Pseudolus]

Ex brothel owner Chuwit is the only politician in Thailand with a shred of integrity. Not through choice but having it forced upon him.

What is abundantly clear is that certain politicians don't want him making waves. They want him to shut up and go away. They are even threatening him with legal action because he says the police are scum and need charging (to paraphrase).

This argument pisshead Chalerm uses that they need a court hearing to issue a warrent is balls. If I set up a casino in my house, a copper walking past was told hewould be straight in through the door to either arrest me or to ask for black money. If someone calls up the cops and says "heh, there is a crime happening right now inside this building" the cops would be there, spank the door down, and in they go. The only reason they are not is that they make so much money from it as does, most likely from the tone of their spokesperson, does a few people in the government.

Oh, and by the way, Viktor Bout is scum as well.

[Yunla]

He also campaigned about the flood-looting crisis.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/505032-chuwit-warns-shortages-could-lead-to-looting-flood-crisis/

Its actually a sad indictment of the mismanagement in PTP (and earlier regimes), that a lone-sheriff figure, and a reformed controversial one at that, is trying to do the regulatory work that the PTP should have been doing in Parliament from the start of their time in office. The same goes for the gambling dens or anything else, it should be the government taking action on the police, and the police taking action on things that are illegal. But ultimately it is the government who should take action first and most decisively. I have nothing against gambling personally, infact legal casinos are a lot safer than these backhouse places and makes more sense to me. But if they illegal then they should be shut, or legalised entirely and either way it is the governments job to take action.

[tragickingdom]

Amazing that a former pimp became more Catholic than the pope himself. Chuwit should have been serving a 20 year or so jail term for trafficking very young children, beating up bar owners at Sukhumvit and falsely imprisoning girls as well as physical and mental tortures of minors by his mengdaas. It says a lot about the Nation that they are willing to put a criminal like Chuwit on the front page and let him take the high ground. It seems everything is allowed to bring the Democrat party back into power. As they cannot win elections they need a bit of help and even help from the scum of the earth seems fine. Chuwit is certainly not the reliable "character witness" the press should hold him for.

[saltandpepper]

Amazing that a former pimp became more Catholic than the pope himself. Chuwit should have been serving a 20 year or so jail term for trafficking very young children, beating up bar owners at Sukhumvit and falsely imprisoning girls as well as physical and mental tortures of minors by his mengdaas. It says a lot about the Nation that they are willing to put a criminal like Chuwit on the front page and let him take the high ground. It seems everything is allowed to bring the Democrat party back into power. As they cannot win elections they need a bit of help and even help from the scum of the earth seems fine. Chuwit is certainly not the reliable "character witness" the press should hold him for.

I don't know what you're on, but you'd better stop it before it kills you!

[Colabamumbai]

Say what you like, he has got balls.

[ginjag]

What gambling, drugs, scams, corruption, please don't blame the bib. They are only doing what their elders did. The government trust them, (no choice). The corrupt having crackdowns on gambling/drugs/scams, complete and utter baffoons. All these people would not be out of place in a Thai T.V. soap opera.

[bigbamboo]

"Now if the police don't take immediate action, the operators of the den will have time to relocate,"

this guy's such a moron.

Really!

Sure he has his scaly past history, and he admits it. So what!

With the police and other agencies ignoring many legal activities, every citizen has the right to stand up and demand action. That's what democracy is all about.

What I assume Nurofiend meant is that in order to rid Thai society of corruption, it is better to sit indoors all day pontificating endlessly on internet forums, instead of going out into the world and bravely tackling state corruption head-on despite the risks to oneself.

Its true, Chuwit is a cowardly moron, it is keyboard-gandalfs who are going to save society.

Chuwit is no saint, nor does he claim to be, but he is a breath of fresh air in the putrid world of Thai politics and systemic corruption.

[kerryk]

Amazing that a former pimp became more Catholic than the pope himself. Chuwit should have been serving a 20 year or so jail term for trafficking very young children, beating up bar owners at Sukhumvit and falsely imprisoning girls as well as physical and mental tortures of minors by his mengdaas. It says a lot about the Nation that they are willing to put a criminal like Chuwit on the front page and let him take the high ground. It seems everything is allowed to bring the Democrat party back into power. As they cannot win elections they need a bit of help and even help from the scum of the earth seems fine. Chuwit is certainly not the reliable "character witness" the press should hold him for.

Where did you find this information about young children and imprisoning girls? I think you are making it up. If you are, and I think you are, that is very bad. If you can't provide some sort of factual basis for saying that I think your post should be removed. You will notice I said young children and imprisoning girls.

[Ferangled]

Amazing that a former pimp became more Catholic than the pope himself. Chuwit should have been serving a 20 year or so jail term for trafficking very young children, beating up bar owners at Sukhumvit and falsely imprisoning girls as well as physical and mental tortures of minors by his mengdaas. It says a lot about the Nation that they are willing to put a criminal like Chuwit on the front page and let him take the high ground. It seems everything is allowed to bring the Democrat party back into power. As they cannot win elections they need a bit of help and even help from the scum of the earth seems fine. Chuwit is certainly not the reliable "character witness" the press should hold him for.

Where did you find this information about young children and imprisoning girls? I think you are making it up. If you are, and I think you are, that is very bad. If you can't provide some sort of factual basis for saying that I think your post should be removed. You will notice I said young children and imprisoning girls.

I recall a related charge that Chuwit was cleared of...

The Court of Appeals acquitted massage parlour tycoon Chuwit Kamolwisit of procuring three underage girls to work as prostitutes in one of his establishments. The court upheld the verdict by the Criminal Court in 2004 which ruled that Mr Chuwit and his Therme Ltd partnership, operators of Honolulu Massage Parlour, could not be held responsible for the sex services provided by the three girls at the parlour.

Mr Chuwit was taken to court after the girls sought help from the foundation Pavena Hongsakul, saying they were forced by a man to provide sex services at the parlour. They claimed they had worked for seven months without payment because the man kept it for himself for making them fake identification cards. The court said the girls did not prove that Mr Chuwit and Therme were involved in making them the fake IDs.

[geriatrickid]

And it's all the Democrats fault...

Gee, I'm learning so much today!

hahaha, please show us all... one place where you drew that conclusion from this thread, or discontinue spouting that absolute bs.

Don't bother me, ask GK.

I did not say that it was. I merely have pointed out in this thread and others that the Democrats who were in office for at least 12 of the 20 years when the gambling den was alleged to be operating, did not act. Bangkok is a Democrat party stronghold, so one can draw his own conclusion. Nor have the Democrats been shoulder to shoulder with Mr. Chuwit, the former brothel operator. I am not blaming the Democrats for not taking action against alleged police and government corruption. However, it does beg the question as to why Mr. Abhisit when he was PM did nothing about the issue. Perhaps, it may be due to the fact that his tenure in office was plagued by multiple corruption scandals? I don't know, so I certainly won't blame the Democrats.

[geriatrickid]

Say what you like, he has got balls.

Or has a personal vendetta?

Or, perhaps, he is so convinced of his value that he sees himself as the only one who can make Thailand right?

Everything he does is a media event without anything substantive coming out of the events. He has the authority to bring people before his committee on police oversight, yet he has not yet done so? Why's that? Why has he never made a formal complaint? If he has the "balls" to make public statements when cameras and media are around, why not actually try and make a difference by offering a sworn statement and asking for a charge to be laid?

[kerryk]

Amazing that a former pimp became more Catholic than the pope himself. Chuwit should have been serving a 20 year or so jail term for trafficking very young children, beating up bar owners at Sukhumvit and falsely imprisoning girls as well as physical and mental tortures of minors by his mengdaas. It says a lot about the Nation that they are willing to put a criminal like Chuwit on the front page and let him take the high ground. It seems everything is allowed to bring the Democrat party back into power. As they cannot win elections they need a bit of help and even help from the scum of the earth seems fine. Chuwit is certainly not the reliable "character witness" the press should hold him for.

Where did you find this information about young children and imprisoning girls? I think you are making it up. If you are, and I think you are, that is very bad. If you can't provide some sort of factual basis for saying that I think your post should be removed. You will notice I said young children and imprisoning girls.

I recall a related charge that Chuwit was cleared of...

The Court of Appeals acquitted massage parlour tycoon Chuwit Kamolwisit of procuring three underage girls to work as prostitutes in one of his establishments. The court upheld the verdict by the Criminal Court in 2004 which ruled that Mr Chuwit and his Therme Ltd partnership, operators of Honolulu Massage Parlour, could not be held responsible for the sex services provided by the three girls at the parlour.

Mr Chuwit was taken to court after the girls sought help from the foundation Pavena Hongsakul, saying they were forced by a man to provide sex services at the parlour. They claimed they had worked for seven months without payment because the man kept it for himself for making them fake identification cards. The court said the girls did not prove that Mr Chuwit and Therme were involved in making them the fake IDs.

I doubt we will see Tragickindom come back and respond. He or she is typical.

[kerryk]

Say what you like, he has got balls.

Or has a personal vendetta?

Or, perhaps, he is so convinced of his value that he sees himself as the only one who can make Thailand right?

Everything he does is a media event without anything substantive coming out of the events. He has the authority to bring people before his committee on police oversight, yet he has not yet done so? Why's that? Why has he never made a formal complaint? If he has the "balls" to make public statements when cameras and media are around, why not actually try and make a difference by offering a sworn statement and asking for a charge to be laid?

I think that would take real balls!