Acceptable Or Not?

[GreenSnapper]

My god, can't believe what I'm reading here. And I always thought, the neo-marxist reeducation in Europe was bad.

BTW, my muslim friend always calls me "pork devourer". Shall I beat him up or just kill him?

[pattayadingo]

is it a phrase that can safetly be used or not?

You'll know, if you get a short 'holiday'.

It came close, I felt the wind as it whistled past my brow!

Tomorrows question, is it permissable and acceptable to refer to a female as a "broad", an Americanism that was widely used during the early/mid 1990's.

Does that depend on her hip size?

[Jingthing]

My god, can't believe what I'm reading here. And I always thought, the neo-marxist reeducation in Europe was bad.

BTW, my muslim friend always calls me "pork devourer". Shall I beat him up or just kill him?

Nothing about PC. Its about not getting your ass kicked.

[Bpraim1]

"You people" should be nicer to the PC.

[hookedondhamma]

I go outside every day, people point at me and shout things to me because I'm white ("Hey you", "Farang", "You!" etc...)... they try to charge me a higher price at every shop because of my color.

I don't care at all, does not bother me one bit; seriously minorities in the USA need to <deleted>!

Priceless, only on ThaiVisa.

[hookedondhamma]

I have learned to substitute "you folks" for you people, sound homey and folksy, I am fascinated by such subjects and sensitivities, one of my favorites is how "colored people" has been replaced by "people of color" that one always makes me smile.

But you got that totally wrong. That's not what happened at all. Talking Americanisms here. We used to have colored people and Negros. That changed to black. That changed to African Americans. Black is still acceptable but African American is considered the most polite. Colored people and Negros are terms that are no longer acceptable but they are not total slurs like the N word. People of color refers to ALL non-whites. Including Asians and Latinos. Not only black people. (I still think using Black is OK and I actually prefer it.)

Depends on where you live in the US as to what is acceptable.

Nothing is ever said about the reverse-discrimination when whites are called honky, white bread, cracker, etc... It's only offensive if whitey uses a colloquial term to describe another race. Go figure.

Actually, that is not really true. I used to know some people that I never thought I'd hear racial slurs directed at anyone, though in this case, it was whites - and that is why I call them 'some people', as they are no longer people who I associate with. Contrary to popular belief, some actually have the ability to see derogatory statements of any kind as a detriment to the better development of society. I'm sorry you have yet to meet any.

Edited July 9, 2012 by hookedondhamma

[rgs2001uk]

Some stuck up Chinese HiSo Bkk wannabe just called my wife an "ee dam".

Should my wife be upset, should I be upset that my wife isnt upset?

Was the "ee khao" being racist or elistist.

Should the "ee khao" be offended because I called her an "ee dam kiaw"?

Jeez H, where is Richard Pryor when you need him.

[MAJIC]

Using the phrase "You People" can't possibly be remotely considered Racialist.it encompasses many,and does not single out anyone,or group in particular.

Sorry to say you are being overly sensitive in your interpretation.

[Jingthing]

Using the phrase "You People" can't possibly be remotely considered Racialist.it encompasses many,and does not single out anyone,or group in particular.

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Can't possibly?

[MAJIC]

Using the phrase "You People" can't possibly be remotely considered Racialist.it encompasses many,and does not single out anyone,or group in particular.

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Can't possibly?

Very amusing Jing,but in this case "You People was Clarified" and aimed at a particular group.But that didn't necessarily mean the Guy with the glasses was prejudiced,against the group in question.

Reminds me of the Macarthy Reds under the Beds Era,look into it closely enough and a case can be made out of anything,In this day and age,it suits a cause that we are all considered prejudiced in one form or another,just like the Macarthy era.

Edited July 10, 2012 by MAJIC

[Jingthing]

Yes of course when "you people" is objected to it is seen as referring to a specific minority group. Look, I'm talking the USA, and the specific group is usually black people. Of course it doesn't necessarily mean the person speaking "you people" is actually racist. It DOES mean that using "you people" in that context is yes, quite often, TAKEN as an offense. Why would you WANT to offend when you can just not use the phrase? Duh.

Edited July 10, 2012 by Jingthing

[silsburyhill]

A Thai friend of mine was incensed when this 'you people' was aimed at her, for it's often being used in the singular imparts a pejorative tone. Also a farang friend took umbrage when he heard it being used against Thais. Of course it's racist. The phrase 'You people' is rarely used in a friendly way is it? 'You people are so great' might not be though ...

[GuestHouse]

For the most part expats in Thailand are from working class or lower middle class backgrounds, have mediocre education, usually craft/skills type training rather than a broader education and are from precisely the kind of communities in which racism and bigotry thrive. Far from finding the term "You People" offensive, they recognise it as a phrase they've used all there lives and object when others view their use of their own mother tongue as offensive.

[brit1984]

For the most part expats in Thailand are from working class or lower middle class backgrounds, have mediocre education, usually craft/skills type training rather than a broader education and are from precisely the kind of communities in which racism and bigotry thrive. Far from finding the term "You People" offensive, they recognise it as a phrase they've used all there lives and object when others view their use of their own mother tongue as offensive.

You people (with your better than mediocre education) are so intelligent.

Sorry for any offence caused by low class use of the English language.

[chiang mai]

For the most part expats in Thailand are from working class or lower middle class backgrounds, have mediocre education, usually craft/skills type training rather than a broader education and are from precisely the kind of communities in which racism and bigotry thrive. Far from finding the term "You People" offensive, they recognise it as a phrase they've used all there lives and object when others view their use of their own mother tongue as offensive.

What an absolute load of nonesence that someone attempts to classify the educational backgrounds of the expats in Thailand!

[CurryAfficionado]

For the most part expats in Thailand are from working class or lower middle class backgrounds, have mediocre education, usually craft/skills type training rather than a broader education and are from precisely the kind of communities in which racism and bigotry thrive. Far from finding the term "You People" offensive, they recognise it as a phrase they've used all there lives and object when others view their use of their own mother tongue as offensive.

What an absolute load of nonesence that someone attempts to classify the educational backgrounds of the expats in Thailand!

"What an absolute load of nonesence that someone attempts to classify the educational backgrounds of the expats in Thailand!"

Was that intentional? Or was it unintenshional?

Edited July 10, 2012 by CurryAfficionado

[kerryk]

For the most part expats in Thailand are from working class or lower middle class backgrounds, have mediocre education, usually craft/skills type training rather than a broader education and are from precisely the kind of communities in which racism and bigotry thrive. Far from finding the term "You People" offensive, they recognise it as a phrase they've used all there lives and object when others view their use of their own mother tongue as offensive.

What an absolute load of nonesence that someone attempts to classify the educational backgrounds of the expats in Thailand!

"What an absolute load of nonesence that someone attempts to classify the educational backgrounds of the expats in Thailand!"

Was that intentional? Or was it unintenshional?

Don't be too hard on Guesthouse. I imagine he was only talking about himself.

[rijb]

Is there any community (or forum) where racism and bigotry has not thrived at one time or another?

'You people' might even be surprised by a 'guest' in your 'house' that at first glance seems to be a tolerant and logical thinker. But, later proves to be just another hypocritical bigot in a fancy hat.

[nocturn]

another freakin' thread about nothing.

[chiang mai]

another freakin' thread about nothing.

Yes, but at least it's a thread about something that's real and not manufactured!

[Gary A]

What a joke. If this is the only thing that makes you a problem. you are indeed a lucky person. If you are living in Thailand just forget the PC crap and enjoy your life.

[Jingthing]

What a joke. If this is the only thing that makes you a problem. you are indeed a lucky person. If you are living in Thailand just forget the PC crap and enjoy your life.

About this particular issue, you people, in Thailand, I totally agree with you. A non-issue. In Thailand.

[chiang mai]

Big sigh!

[GuestHouse]

For the most part expats in Thailand are from working class or lower middle class backgrounds, have mediocre education, usually craft/skills type training rather than a broader education and are from precisely the kind of communities in which racism and bigotry thrive. Far from finding the term "You People" offensive, they recognise it as a phrase they've used all there lives and object when others view their use of their own mother tongue as offensive.

What an absolute load of nonesence that someone attempts to classify the educational backgrounds of the expats in Thailand!

"What an absolute load of nonesence that someone attempts to classify the educational backgrounds of the expats in Thailand!"

Was that intentional? Or was it unintenshional?

Don't be too hard on Guesthouse. I imagine he was only talking about himself.

Thank you gentlemen, and in this we have demonstrated the truth of what I said earlier about generalisations becoming unacceptable when directed against ourselves.

Like I say, generalisations against old men who marry young Thai women, hurt. Generalisations against old men who have children with Thai women hurt even more. Generalisations on the lines of men who travel to Thailand being are all sex tourists/perverts hurt, and we have plenty of examples of people objecting negative generalisations against Thais/Thailand/Thai culture.

But when negative generalisations against immigrants to your country, people of faith, people who are new to your country are branded not acceptable the cry goes up PC madness.

Afford others the same right to dignity as you afford yourself - Not Political Correctness, simple good manners and consideration for those you interact with.

[GuestHouse]

For the most part expats in Thailand are from working class or lower middle class backgrounds, have mediocre education, usually craft/skills type training rather than a broader education and are from precisely the kind of communities in which racism and bigotry thrive. Far from finding the term "You People" offensive, they recognise it as a phrase they've used all there lives and object when others view their use of their own mother tongue as offensive.

You people (with your better than mediocre education) are so intelligent.

Sorry for any offence caused by low class use of the English language.

And you sir were not paying attention during the class on the rhetorical method.

[GreenSnapper]

For the most part expats in Thailand are from working class or lower middle class backgrounds, have mediocre education, usually craft/skills type training rather than a broader education and are from precisely the kind of communities in which racism and bigotry thrive. Far from finding the term "You People" offensive, they recognise it as a phrase they've used all there lives and object when others view their use of their own mother tongue as offensive.

What an absolute load of nonesence that someone attempts to classify the educational backgrounds of the expats in Thailand!

Well, he has 6700+ postings, so he certainly feels good in that sort of community.

[seasia]

I had never realised it might cause offence until I glanced at the links in first post.

Incredible.