gerryBScot Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 I have just realised my current 90 day reporting period expired mid-June. I am a teacher on Non-B renewed; in the four years I have been here everything relating to my visa and work permit has been in order; no previous difficulties with imigration, no overstays, no fines etc. It has always been done for me by the school where I work but there has been a change in management and it has not happened on this occasion. Usually it has been done by post and I get a new insert from the office. What is my position? Can they put me in jail? Am I liable for a fine? What should I do? If I try to do it myself what documents do I need to bring to my local immigration office? Many thanks for any help and advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colabamumbai Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Fine of 200 Bhat per day...Get down to immigration now TM 47 form, bring some money. If you can get a letter from the school admitting liability, they may just be nice to you and save you some money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopburi3 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 The fine is a flat 2,000 baht for late reporting (that 200 baht per day is only if you refuse to pay it appears - have never seen it applied to anyone yet). You need to go to immigration office and pay 2,000 baht fine and file a TM.47 form (you can download or do in office - just your address and passport/entry data to fill in). They will not give you a hard time about it as long as you pay the fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerryBScot Posted July 18, 2012 Author Share Posted July 18, 2012 The fine is a flat 2,000 baht for late reporting (that 200 baht per day is only if you refuse to pay it appears - have never seen it applied to anyone yet). You need to go to immigration office and pay 2,000 baht fine and file a TM.47 form (you can download or do in office - just your address and passport/entry data to fill in). They will not give you a hard time about it as long as you pay the fine. Thanks Lopburi & Colabamumbai; I just need to fill out a form; do I need to bring anything relating to proof of continuing employment? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopburi3 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 No. But you should have some proof of address if asked. Most places it is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob4you Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 sometimes you can get lucky, I saw my wife was 3 weeks late and I was 2 weeks early, went to Jomtiem asked if we could both do our report so we were on same day and the allowed us both to report and no fine but said don't do it again or B2000 fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantilley Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 The fine is a flat 2,000 baht for late reporting Was 1,500 THB for me in May this year, and only 1,000 when I did it one time early last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopburi3 Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Current policy is a flat 2,000 baht fine as stated and can be confirmed on national web site http://www.immigration.go.th/ Note The notification of staying in the Kingdom over 90 days is in no way equivalent to a visa extension. If a foreigner staying in the kingdom over 90 days without notifying the Immigration Bureau or notifying the Immigration Bureau later than the set period, a fine of 2,000.- Baht will be collected. If a foreigner who did not make the notification of staying over 90 days is arrested, he will be fined 4,000.- Baht. If a foreigner leaves the country and re-enters, the day count starts at 1 in every case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantilley Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Is that a recent change then? My 1,500 Baht fine was less than 2 months ago... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario2008 Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 No, it is not a recent change. That is the standerd fine for years now. Did you get a receipt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lite Beer Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 It has been 2,000 Baht for as long as I can remember Sent from my GT-I9001 using Thaivisa Connect App Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantilley Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 (edited) No, and actually I didn't go myself, one of our (outsourced) lawyers went. Perhaps he pulled a few strings and got it reduced. This was at the 1 Stop Visa centre in Bangkok BTW. Also last year, around April I think, the fine was only 1,000 THB. Edited July 19, 2012 by dantilley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario2008 Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Ask for the receipt. No receipt generally means something fishy. The One Stop Service Centre has slightly different rules, so they might have a different fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantilley Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 There were subsequent on-time reports after the one that incurred the fine so would assume that any fishiness would have been minor enough not to have any lasting effect. Also the lawyer who did it is constantly doing visa and work permit renewals, 90-day reports, etc. for all the foreigners at my previous company so it would be in his interests not to do anything dodgy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario2008 Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 No receipt often means someone is pocketing the money. If you report to late, the fine is all there is to it. Once paid it is over and done. There is no fine or other cost (other then the cost of your lawyer) for reporting on time. Maybe it is the normal fee for your lawyer to do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantilley Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Could be - but as I've now left the company and it's all in the past I guess we'll never know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZEMADE Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Did my 90 day report today. Filled out the TM47 form Handed over Passport Copy of front page of passport Copy of Retirement stamp Copy of allowed to stay and departure card Copy of Telephone bill with name and address on it. These are now all required at Chonburi, Jomtien Immigration, for 90 day reporting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wpcoe Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 For once, Jomtien makes something more difficult than Hua Hin! Just did my 90-day report on Monday in HH. No copies of anything. Just the TM.47 Form. (Has been the same since I moved here last year spring.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tafia Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 For once, Jomtien makes something more difficult than Hua Hin! Just did my 90-day report on Monday in HH. No copies of anything. Just the TM.47 Form. (Has been the same since I moved here last year spring.) Same in Udon, no copies of anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantilley Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Same in One Stop Service Centre in BKK, nothing needed, not even the person him/herself. A messenger, admin staff, etc. can do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dork Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Just out of curiosity, does anyone know how the 90 day reporting requirement is monitored? I can understand that once someone has reported the first time, their name would be in computer system that the reporting office use. But what about someone that only occasionally spends more than 90 days in the country and therefore is not usually obliged to report? Is reporting automatically cross referenced to entries and exits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 The only way you can stay more than 90 days is by getting an extension of stay. They keep track of your entries and exits but as far as I know there is no cross reference for 90 day reporting. How a person gets caught for not doing the reports (or late) is when they go in for a report or their extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dork Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 OK thanks Ubonjoe. One of my staff asked recently what he should do, having missed his reporting date but I didn't know what to advise. In my case though I have been on extensions for many years I have never reported because I have to travel abroad frequently and never reach 90 days in-country. What makes me curious is that in all those years of extensions I have never once been asked about my (lack of) 90 day reports. So if indeed there is no cross checking against entries/exits the best solution, in some cases, for someone that has missed their reporting date might be to stay quiet until 90 days after their next exit/entry and then start reporting again normally. Or have I missed something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopburi3 Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Your previous report receipt is required and if you do not have normally a computer check will be made so it will most likely be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dork Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Your previous report receipt is required and if you do not have normally a computer check will be made so it will most likely be seen. Ahh..., so that's the catch. Thanks Lopburi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdenner Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 As usual great advice on this site. Can I just add that obviuosly most members are computer literate so why not just use a flag in programs like MS Office Outlook to remind you to when to undertake this and other tasks. I mailed (EMS) my report off yesterday after such a flag raising it's head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantilley Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 BTW if doing it by mail do you get something mailed back to you confirming they got it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario2008 Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Yes, the slip at the bottum of the page telling they received it and wehn your next reporting date is. That is why you have to include a selfadressed stamped (10 baht) enveloppe when you report by mail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantilley Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Would be good if they'd introduce a system to do it online... is this in the pipeline do you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtk Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 anyone know the required paperwork for 90-day report in phuket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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