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Let due legal process proceed, in the hope that EVERYONE is treated equally before the law.coffee1.gif

That certainly would be a miracle in Thailand, worthy of the TAT campaign slogan... "Amazing Thailand", let's not hold our breath...

Indeed. The record of law courts being allowed to conduct the legal process objectively according to law, and without pressure, undue influence, and intimidation, is not a good one.

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Let due legal process proceed, in the hope that EVERYONE is treated equally before the law.coffee1.gif

That certainly would be a miracle in Thailand, worthy of the TAT campaign slogan... "Amazing Thailand", let's not hold our breath...

Indeed. The record of law courts being allowed to conduct the legal process objectively according to law, and without pressure, undue influence, and intimidation, is not a good one.

Agreed and the current divisive political climate in Thailand does not lend itself well to impartiality... unfortunately very few are sitting on the fence and most have made up their minds about each and every issue, evidence/ facts be damned.

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This is a specific case.

So what part of what I wrote do you disagree with? It seems we are agreed in principle. No colors, no classes, all equal before the law.

I'm aware it's a specific case. I'm aware there is prima facie evidence of falsified documents.I'm aware General Prayuth has stated that the military's Judge Advocate Department has "cleared" Abhisit. I'm aware he has also said it is for sources outside the military to come up with fresh evidence if they think they have a case.I'm aware that Prayuth has advised that any challenge to the Judge Advocate Department's decision could be contempt of court.I'm aware he has also warned those who are concerned about the matter not to wage a media campaign.I'm aware that the likelihood of the truth emerging is as likely as Sepp Blatter changing his mind and awarding England the World Cup Tournament.I'm aware that the usual suspects will try and make this all about Jatuporn.I'm aware this is another example of the way the unelected elites treat the people of Thailand with contempt.I'm aware this is a rather minor affair and that we should not get it all out of perspective.I'm aware Abhisit personally may have done nothing wrong (or that seemed wrong at the time) - and I would probably have done the same in his case.Is that enough awareness for one day?

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This is a specific case.

So what part of what I wrote do you disagree with? It seems we are agreed in principle. No colors, no classes, all equal before the law.

I'm aware it's a specific case. I'm aware there is prima facie evidence of falsified documents.I'm aware General Prayuth has stated that the military's Judge Advocate Department has "cleared" Abhisit. I'm aware he has also said it is for sources outside the military to come up with fresh evidence if they think they have a case.I'm aware that Prayuth has advised that any challenge to the Judge Advocate Department's decision could be contempt of court.I'm aware he has also warned those who are concerned about the matter not to wage a media campaign.I'm aware that the likelihood of the truth emerging is as likely as Sepp Blatter changing his mind and awarding England the World Cup Tournament.I'm aware that the usual suspects will try and make this all about Jatuporn.I'm aware this is another example of the way the unelected elites treat the people of Thailand with contempt.I'm aware this is a rather minor affair and that we should not get it all out of perspective.I'm aware Abhisit personally may have done nothing wrong (or that seemed wrong at the time) - and I would probably have done the same in his case.Is that enough awareness for one day?

You actually spent time writing that irrelevance to my post.. Admirable. :)

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This is a specific case.

So what part of what I wrote do you disagree with? It seems we are agreed in principle. No colors, no classes, all equal before the law.

I'm aware it's a specific case. I'm aware there is prima facie evidence of falsified documents.I'm aware General Prayuth has stated that the military's Judge Advocate Department has "cleared" Abhisit. I'm aware he has also said it is for sources outside the military to come up with fresh evidence if they think they have a case.I'm aware that Prayuth has advised that any challenge to the Judge Advocate Department's decision could be contempt of court.I'm aware he has also warned those who are concerned about the matter not to wage a media campaign.I'm aware that the likelihood of the truth emerging is as likely as Sepp Blatter changing his mind and awarding England the World Cup Tournament.I'm aware that the usual suspects will try and make this all about Jatuporn.I'm aware this is another example of the way the unelected elites treat the people of Thailand with contempt.I'm aware this is a rather minor affair and that we should not get it all out of perspective.I'm aware Abhisit personally may have done nothing wrong (or that seemed wrong at the time) - and I would probably have done the same in his case.Is that enough awareness for one day?

You actually spent time writing that irrelevance to my post.. Admirable. :)

But at least he's aware. That's gotta be good :D

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Well, as recent cases have shown, Thai defamation laws are amongst the strictest in the world, and Abhist has to be on a winner here, because it does not matter one iota if any of what Jatuporn says is true, the fact is in Thailand, regardless of fact or truth, you cannot slag somebody off in public. If Abhisit can prove that his reputation has been damaged by Jatuporn's public comments then it looks like a stripy suntan for Jatuporn if the last few defamation cases are anything to go by. We can but live in hope.

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I just read in that other paper, that a panel set up to investigate the Democratic Leader Abhisit Vejjajiva. Into the allegation of falsifying documents to make him exempt from military conscription, have found him guilty and stripped him of his rank and he is to pay back the salary that was paid to him.

He Abhisit was given 2 weeks to supply information or make a statement to the committee to clear up the allegation, but he did neither.

I wonder what his backers on TVF think now. What a great outcome.

The leader of the Democrats GUILTY he is a liar a cheat and is corrupt. Not much different to what a lot said on here about Thaksin.

Now watch things heat up, not only on here but in Politics and the media.

Did not see this in the Nation News

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I just read in that other paper, that a panel set up to investigate the Democratic Leader Abhisit Vejjajiva. Into the allegation of falsifying documents to make him exempt from military conscription, have found him guilty and stripped him of his rank and he is to pay back the salary that was paid to him.

He Abhisit was given 2 weeks to supply information or make a statement to the committee to clear up the allegation, but he did neither.

I wonder what his backers on TVF think now. What a great outcome.

The leader of the Democrats GUILTY he is a liar a cheat and is corrupt. Not much different to what a lot said on here about Thaksin.

Now watch things heat up, not only on here but in Politics and the media.

A committee set up by PT found Abhisit guilty of something he did 20 (or so) years ago?

That's it?

Anything else Abhisit did wrong?

Did PT find more on Abhisit during the 15 month they are in office?

"Not much different to what a lot said on here about Thaksin" Correct, not much different from what Thaksin did (is doing).drunk.gif

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I just read in that other paper, that a panel set up to investigate the Democratic Leader Abhisit Vejjajiva. Into the allegation of falsifying documents to make him exempt from military conscription, have found him guilty and stripped him of his rank and he is to pay back the salary that was paid to him.

He Abhisit was given 2 weeks to supply information or make a statement to the committee to clear up the allegation, but he did neither.

I wonder what his backers on TVF think now. What a great outcome.

The leader of the Democrats GUILTY he is a liar a cheat and is corrupt. Not much different to what a lot said on here about Thaksin.

Now watch things heat up, not only on here but in Politics and the media.

A committee set up by PT found Abhisit guilty of something he did 20 (or so) years ago?

That's it?

Anything else Abhisit did wrong?

Did PT find more on Abhisit during the 15 month they are in office?

"Not much different to what a lot said on here about Thaksin" Correct, not much different from what Thaksin did (is doing).drunk.gif

No excuses, he got caught out and lied about it recently to all of his backers. He has now lost face as they say and as the leader of the opposition, thats a big loose face. The old story, every dog has his day.

His Democratic party should get rid of their leader immediately.

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GUILTY

I just read in that other paper, that a panel set up to investigate the Democratic Leader Abhisit Vejjajiva. Into the allegation of falsifying documents to make him exempt from military conscription, have found him guilty and stripped him of his rank and he is to pay back the salary that was paid to him.

He Abhisit was given 2 weeks to supply information or make a statement to the committee to clear up the allegation, but he did neither.

I wonder what his backers on TVF think now. What a great outcome.

The leader of the Democrats GUILTY he is a liar a cheat and is corrupt. Not much different to what a lot said on here about Thaksin.

Now watch things heat up, not only on here but in Politics and the media.

A committee set up by PT found Abhisit guilty of something he did 20 (or so) years ago?

That's it?

Anything else Abhisit did wrong?

Did PT find more on Abhisit during the 15 month they are in office?

"Not much different to what a lot said on here about Thaksin" Correct, not much different from what Thaksin did (is doing).drunk.gif

No excuses, he got caught out and lied about it recently to all of his backers. He has now lost face as they say and as the leader of the opposition, thats a big loose face. The old story, every dog has his day.

His Democratic party should get rid of their leader immediately.

NO excuses. Answer my questions (if you dare).

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GUILTY

I just read in that other paper, that a panel set up to investigate the Democratic Leader Abhisit Vejjajiva. Into the allegation of falsifying documents to make him exempt from military conscription, have found him guilty and stripped him of his rank and he is to pay back the salary that was paid to him.

He Abhisit was given 2 weeks to supply information or make a statement to the committee to clear up the allegation, but he did neither.

I wonder what his backers on TVF think now. What a great outcome.

The leader of the Democrats GUILTY he is a liar a cheat and is corrupt. Not much different to what a lot said on here about Thaksin.

Now watch things heat up, not only on here but in Politics and the media.

Did not see this in the Nation News

Now watch as the exact same people who have been arguing for however many years that Thaksin's conviction was unjust and politically motivated - in spite of the fact that his own party was in power - now come forward to express satisfaction at justice prevailing in what was of course a completely non-politically motivated case against Abhisit made by a committee set up by Thaksin's cohorts.

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I just read in that other paper, that a panel set up to investigate the Democratic Leader Abhisit Vejjajiva. Into the allegation of falsifying documents to make him exempt from military conscription, have found him guilty and stripped him of his rank and he is to pay back the salary that was paid to him.

He Abhisit was given 2 weeks to supply information or make a statement to the committee to clear up the allegation, but he did neither.

I wonder what his backers on TVF think now. What a great outcome.

The leader of the Democrats GUILTY he is a liar a cheat and is corrupt. Not much different to what a lot said on here about Thaksin.

Now watch things heat up, not only on here but in Politics and the media.

Did not see this in the Nation News

Anybody who has ever said that the land case against Thaksin was politically motivated or a political decision, and then accepts this as justice, is a one-eyed hypocrite.

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Strange that there is no statute of limitations on this matter ?

Now course we shall see the matters surrounding Chalerms sons and their military (dis) service and desertion dealt with as well?

No political bias involved in either of the cases is there ?whistling.gif

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Ahhh the Gov his Gov did not take any action against the newly elected PM when he misused their communications.

I quote,from wikipedia.

Abhisit's first act as Prime Minister was to send SMS texts to tens of millions of Thai mobile phone users. The message, signed "Your PM," asked people to help him solve the country's crisis. Interested phone users were asked to send back their postal codes, at a cost of three baht. Abhisit was criticized for violating privacy regulations in the mass SMS. The National Telecommunication Commission says that mobile phone service providers may not exploit client information, including phone numbers, without their consent. However, it did not seek actions against Abhisit.

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Ahhh the Gov his Gov did not take any action against the newly elected PM when he misused their communications.

I quote,from wikipedia.

Abhisit's first act as Prime Minister was to send SMS texts to tens of millions of Thai mobile phone users. The message, signed "Your PM," asked people to help him solve the country's crisis. Interested phone users were asked to send back their postal codes, at a cost of three baht. Abhisit was criticized for violating privacy regulations in the mass SMS. The National Telecommunication Commission says that mobile phone service providers may not exploit client information, including phone numbers, without their consent. However, it did not seek actions against Abhisit.

I know you like to spill your frustrations but aren't you in the wrong thread with this information? Or are you just trying to keep the thread alive with of topic bs?

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GUILTY

I just read in that other paper, that a panel set up to investigate the Democratic Leader Abhisit Vejjajiva. Into the allegation of falsifying documents to make him exempt from military conscription, have found him guilty and stripped him of his rank and he is to pay back the salary that was paid to him.

He Abhisit was given 2 weeks to supply information or make a statement to the committee to clear up the allegation, but he did neither.

I wonder what his backers on TVF think now. What a great outcome.

The leader of the Democrats GUILTY he is a liar a cheat and is corrupt. Not much different to what a lot said on here about Thaksin.

Now watch things heat up, not only on here but in Politics and the media.

Did not see this in the Nation News

Anybody who has ever said that the land case against Thaksin was politically motivated or a political decision, and then accepts this as justice, is a one-eyed hypocrite.

Err quite, so by the same token anyone that accepts the land case against Thaksin as justice but sees this as a politically motivated decision must also be a one-eyed hypocrite?!

You've got to love the complete hypocrisy vented on this forum, talk about foot to mouth logic...whistling.gif

Well, I think it is quite telling that the Nation has been absolutely silent about this issue, whilst it has been on the front page of the other paper since about 11pm last night. I couldn't help but chuckle that the decision came out rather conveniently on the night of the US elections.

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Ahhh the Gov his Gov did not take any action against the newly elected PM when he misused their communications.

I quote,from wikipedia.

Abhisit's first act as Prime Minister was to send SMS texts to tens of millions of Thai mobile phone users. The message, signed "Your PM," asked people to help him solve the country's crisis. Interested phone users were asked to send back their postal codes, at a cost of three baht. Abhisit was criticized for violating privacy regulations in the mass SMS. The National Telecommunication Commission says that mobile phone service providers may not exploit client information, including phone numbers, without their consent. However, it did not seek actions against Abhisit.

I know you like to spill your frustrations but aren't you in the wrong thread with this information? Or are you just trying to keep the thread alive with of topic bs?

Sorry to dissapoint you, but it is the right thread to put it back on at the moment, because the Nation has not heard the news yet and thats why TVF dont put it in their news. So it's got nothing to do with frustrations and BS, it's fact.

Just have to wait for TVF to put it in their news.

Thai at Heart, we must have been on the same thought.

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GUILTY

I just read in that other paper, that a panel set up to investigate the Democratic Leader Abhisit Vejjajiva. Into the allegation of falsifying documents to make him exempt from military conscription, have found him guilty and stripped him of his rank and he is to pay back the salary that was paid to him.

He Abhisit was given 2 weeks to supply information or make a statement to the committee to clear up the allegation, but he did neither.

I wonder what his backers on TVF think now. What a great outcome.

The leader of the Democrats GUILTY he is a liar a cheat and is corrupt. Not much different to what a lot said on here about Thaksin.

Now watch things heat up, not only on here but in Politics and the media.

Did not see this in the Nation News

Anybody who has ever said that the land case against Thaksin was politically motivated or a political decision, and then accepts this as justice, is a one-eyed hypocrite.

OK then, let's have an open admission from you that the Ratchada case was politically motivated and the decision politically influenced.

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Abhisit's pretty-faced, educated, wholesome facade fooled many, but the sheer volume of his lies, false accusations and attempted cover-ups have bared his compromised soul for all to see.

At least Thaksin has some political nous.

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Ahhh the Gov his Gov did not take any action against the newly elected PM when he misused their communications.

I quote,from wikipedia.

Abhisit's first act as Prime Minister was to send SMS texts to tens of millions of Thai mobile phone users. The message, signed "Your PM," asked people to help him solve the country's crisis. Interested phone users were asked to send back their postal codes, at a cost of three baht. Abhisit was criticized for violating privacy regulations in the mass SMS. The National Telecommunication Commission says that mobile phone service providers may not exploit client information, including phone numbers, without their consent. However, it did not seek actions against Abhisit.

I know you like to spill your frustrations but aren't you in the wrong thread with this information? Or are you just trying to keep the thread alive with of topic bs?

Sorry to dissapoint you, but it is the right thread to put it back on at the moment, because the Nation has not heard the news yet and thats why TVF dont put it in their news. So it's got nothing to do with frustrations and BS, it's fact.

Just have to wait for TVF to put it in their news.

Thai at Heart, we must have been on the same thought.

Interesting, I can't find anything in the topic that relates to your SMS story.

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I just read in that other paper, that a panel set up to investigate the Democratic Leader Abhisit Vejjajiva. Into the allegation of falsifying documents to make him exempt from military conscription, have found him guilty and stripped him of his rank and he is to pay back the salary that was paid to him.

He Abhisit was given 2 weeks to supply information or make a statement to the committee to clear up the allegation, but he did neither.

I wonder what his backers on TVF think now. What a great outcome.

The leader of the Democrats GUILTY he is a liar a cheat and is corrupt. Not much different to what a lot said on here about Thaksin.

Now watch things heat up, not only on here but in Politics and the media.

Did not see this in the Nation News

Anybody who has ever said that the land case against Thaksin was politically motivated or a political decision, and then accepts this as justice, is a one-eyed hypocrite.

OK then, let's have an open admission from you that the Ratchada case was politically motivated and the decision politically influenced.

Is that the best you can do, try and throw off on another topic. Why not stick to what has happened, he has been caught out lying to his party, the Thai people and all of you guys and gals that kept on sticking up for him. This has nothing to do with Thaksin. This is all about the Democrat current leader being a lier and deceiver.
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Ahhh the Gov his Gov did not take any action against the newly elected PM when he misused their communications.

I quote,from wikipedia.

Abhisit's first act as Prime Minister was to send SMS texts to tens of millions of Thai mobile phone users. The message, signed "Your PM," asked people to help him solve the country's crisis. Interested phone users were asked to send back their postal codes, at a cost of three baht. Abhisit was criticized for violating privacy regulations in the mass SMS. The National Telecommunication Commission says that mobile phone service providers may not exploit client information, including phone numbers, without their consent. However, it did not seek actions against Abhisit.

I know you like to spill your frustrations but aren't you in the wrong thread with this information? Or are you just trying to keep the thread alive with of topic bs?

Sorry to dissapoint you, but it is the right thread to put it back on at the moment, because the Nation has not heard the news yet and thats why TVF dont put it in their news. So it's got nothing to do with frustrations and BS, it's fact.

Just have to wait for TVF to put it in their news.

Thai at Heart, we must have been on the same thought.

Interesting, I can't find anything in the topic that relates to your SMS story.

Boy your lucky I kept it for you. It comes under the heading Prime Minister of Thailand

Abhisit's first act as Prime Minister was to send SMS texts to tens of millions of Thai mobile phone users. The message, signed "Your PM," asked people to help him solve the country's crisis. Interested phone users were asked to send back their postal codes, at a cost of three baht. Abhisit was criticized for violating privacy regulations in the mass SMS. The National Telecommunication Commission says that mobile phone service providers may not exploit client information, including phone numbers, without their consent. However, it did not seek actions against Abhisit.

http://www.google.co...NMMa0rmj0xVqBTQ

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Wouldn't it necessitate a finding of the hyped "Guilty" to be from a court of law instead of a panel from Pheu Thai Party MP Sukumpol?

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In a normal world yes. But it seems that most Thaksin supporters give more credibility to a judgment from their own PT clan then from a court. But we knew that already.

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I know you like to spill your frustrations but aren't you in the wrong thread with this information? Or are you just trying to keep the thread alive with of topic bs?

Sorry to dissapoint you, but it is the right thread to put it back on at the moment, because the Nation has not heard the news yet and thats why TVF dont put it in their news. So it's got nothing to do with frustrations and BS, it's fact.

Just have to wait for TVF to put it in their news.

Thai at Heart, we must have been on the same thought.

Interesting, I can't find anything in the topic that relates to your SMS story.

Boy your lucky I kept it for you.

Abhisit's first act as Prime Minister was to send SMS texts to tens of millions of Thai mobile phone users. The message, signed "Your PM," asked people to help him solve the country's crisis. Interested phone users were asked to send back their postal codes, at a cost of three baht. Abhisit was criticized for violating privacy regulations in the mass SMS. The National Telecommunication Commission says that mobile phone service providers may not exploit client information, including phone numbers, without their consent. However, it did not seek actions against Abhisit.

http://www.google.co...NMMa0rmj0xVqBTQ

Still interesting because I can't find anything in the topic that relates to your story.

A gentle reminder: Jatuporn Sticks By His Allegations Against Abhisit (concerning his time in the army).

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Wouldn't it necessitate a finding of the hyped "Guilty" to be from a court of law instead of a panel from Pheu Thai Party MP Sukumpol?

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In a normal world yes. But it seems that most Thaksin supporters give more credibility to a judgment from their own PT clan then from a court. But we knew that already.

The usual leap of logic that acknowledging any flaw on the part of the Democrat party is a show of support for Thaksin. Does every topic have to be a platform for you to vent about Thaksin? Did he force Mark to lie? Read the topic and stay on it... coffee1.gif

Still interesting because I can't find anything in the topic that relates to your story.

A gentle reminder: Jatuporn Sticks By His Allegations Against Abhisit (concerning his time in the army).

For those that struggle to understand the term, a perfect example of rank hypocrisy! clap2.gif

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