Looking For Breeding Partner For Our St Bernard Boy

[asinus]

Hi There,

Our handsome boy is 2 year +, very healthy and huge, staying around Bangyai area. We are thinking about breeding him. does anyone have a Female St Bernard female for breeding? doesent need to be registered just pure breed. Please PM me if there is any interest.

Thanks

Ash

[meatboy]

another poor dog suffering in thailand,how the hell are they allowed to breed with no thought as to how these dogs survive in the heat,just another trophy hunter.

[phl]

another poor dog suffering in thailand,how the hell are they allowed to breed with no thought as to how these dogs survive in the heat,just another trophy hunter.

Rather a silly statement .

The fur is also an insulator from the heat.

My Samoyed handles the heat much better than the bullmastiff

[Nienke]

I've been taken care of a St. Bernard several years. He was doing well, BUT ... he had access to the fishpond in which he went to cool down several times a day. Watching him, this going into the pond was definitely a must for him.

My question about this kind of breeding requests is always:

do you know anything about the blood lines of both male and female? If not, don't breed! A dog that appears healthy, doesn't necessarily mean it is. How do you know if along the line there aren't hereditary problems in the dog?

[phl]

I've been taken care of a St. Bernard several years. He was doing well, BUT ... he had access to the fishpond in which he went to cool down several times a day. Watching him, this going into the pond was definitely a must for him.

My question about this kind of breeding requests is always:

do you know anything about the blood lines of both male and female? If not, don't breed! A dog that appears healthy, doesn't necessarily mean it is. How do you know if along the line there aren't hereditary problems in the dog?

I do not think OP is looking to start a bread winner or anything like that.

OP just loves his boy and most likely wants to have a puppy from him.

I really do not see a problem with that and do hope they find a "sexy" female for their boy

[necronx99]

The Blether is in town, he's had a few odd adventures and may be up for it.

^^ re the heat. The fur does insulate both ways, it gets hot even in Switzerland.

[Nienke]

I've been taken care of a St. Bernard several years. He was doing well, BUT ... he had access to the fishpond in which he went to cool down several times a day. Watching him, this going into the pond was definitely a must for him.

My question about this kind of breeding requests is always:

do you know anything about the blood lines of both male and female? If not, don't breed! A dog that appears healthy, doesn't necessarily mean it is. How do you know if along the line there aren't hereditary problems in the dog?

I do not think OP is looking to start a bread winner or anything like that.

OP just loves his boy and most likely wants to have a puppy from him.

I really do not see a problem with that and do hope they find a "sexy" female for their boy

Well, I do see a problem with this kind of breeding. It's called back yard breeding.

And that doesn't mean all back yard breeders have bad intentions.

Not knowing about the genetics of this dog and/ or the female dog can put pups in this world with physical and mental faults. The future of the breed and the pups is often not taken into consideration.

Some pet owners love their dog very much and do take very well care of it. They may think that their dog is most healthy with a wonderful sound temperament, and hope by breeding their dog they will get similar puppies. More often than not the reality is quite different and many pups end up in shelters, or worse. Back yard breeding is one of the leading causes for shelter over-population in the West.

There are also back yard breeders who are considerate about the breed and the pups, but are just not interested in competing with their dogs.

And, there are pet owners who actually primarily breed for financial gain, without taking any consideration about the future of the breed and the pups, and regardless whether they take good care of their dog (and pups) or not.

Furthermore, there is a general believe that every dog needs to mate or produce at least one litter in their lifetime to truly feel fulfilled. This is a myth.

Many backyard breeders have only the best of intentions, but do not realize that by putting just a male and a female together, without any knowledge about the genetics and history of the sire and dam, they can do more harm than good to both the breed in general and to the pups.

Responsible breeding also includes starting up with the socialization process of the puppies, which involves a lot of time, effort and money.

[phl]

I've been taken care of a St. Bernard several years. He was doing well, BUT ... he had access to the fishpond in which he went to cool down several times a day. Watching him, this going into the pond was definitely a must for him.

My question about this kind of breeding requests is always:

do you know anything about the blood lines of both male and female? If not, don't breed! A dog that appears healthy, doesn't necessarily mean it is. How do you know if along the line there aren't hereditary problems in the dog?

I do not think OP is looking to start a bread winner or anything like that.

OP just loves his boy and most likely wants to have a puppy from him.

I really do not see a problem with that and do hope they find a "sexy" female for their boy

Well, I do see a problem with this kind of breeding. It's called back yard breeding.

And that doesn't mean all back yard breeders have bad intentions.

Not knowing about the genetics of this dog and/ or the female dog can put pups in this world with physical and mental faults. The future of the breed and the pups is often not taken into consideration.

Some pet owners love their dog very much and do take very well care of it. They may think that their dog is most healthy with a wonderful sound temperament, and hope by breeding their dog they will get similar puppies. More often than not the reality is quite different and many pups end up in shelters, or worse. Back yard breeding is one of the leading causes for shelter over-population in the West.

There are also back yard breeders who are considerate about the breed and the pups, but are just not interested in competing with their dogs.

And, there are pet owners who actually primarily breed for financial gain, without taking any consideration about the future of the breed and the pups, and regardless whether they take good care of their dog (and pups) or not.

Furthermore, there is a general believe that every dog needs to mate or produce at least one litter in their lifetime to truly feel fulfilled. This is a myth.

Many backyard breeders have only the best of intentions, but do not realize that by putting just a male and a female together, without any knowledge about the genetics and history of the sire and dam, they can do more harm than good to both the breed in general and to the pups.

Responsible breeding also includes starting up with the socialization process of the puppies, which involves a lot of time, effort and money.

Ok, the next time i see soi dogs going at it, i will call the "breeding" police to ensure the pair will get health checks first

Common please stop turning the thread into something which it is not.

The owner wants to breed his dog,, full stop! No one is forcing you to bring your bitch to the owner. and if i was in the market for a puppy, i would much rather buy one from the back yard breeder, because at least i know there is no interbreeding.

Sorry OP i do not even know anyone with the same breed, i would try to contact the club(if they have one in Thailand) and offer your boy services

One of my dogs (boy) is a soi dog, he had his fun with a few girls from the street, and i was left with the mess of 11 pups(all now rehomed together with moms)so he is now a post op ladyboy

Edited July 28, 2012 by phl

[asinus]

another poor dog suffering in thailand,how the hell are they allowed to breed with no thought as to how these dogs survive in the heat,just another trophy hunter.

Cool down uncle. Seems like the heat is working on u more than the dog. We have 3 ponds in our house and a private pool along with enough garden space for our Boy. He is more than happy for anything. He has got his own private room with AC + Fan installed. We aint looking for some fun breeding or something but would love to have a puppy for the future through him. I think you are consuming too much meat these days which is affecting you somehow..

Someone who were talking about Bloodlines, for your kind information we do aware of all these and we are fully concerned or else we wont waste our time in this.

Finally, Thanks phl. I just post , if anyone interested, reply via PM, thats it, no need to make such fuss over it. We aint forcing anyone for anything so plz keep those philisophical advises in your pocket unless you really know anything.

Full Stop !

[meatboy]

another poor dog suffering in thailand,how the hell are they allowed to breed with no thought as to how these dogs survive in the heat,just another trophy hunter.

Rather a silly statement .

The fur is also an insulator from the heat.

My Samoyed handles the heat much better than the bullmastiff

what is silly about my post,you yourself says your dog handles the heat better than the bullmastiff,who's talking about them,we have a simular dog to yours[alaskan malamute] and we do all we can to make his life bareable but he still sweats,would you wear an overcoat in thailand,our dogs are nowhere near the size of a st.bernard at least 4times smaller.the op wants to let his dog shaft a bitch and wants one of the puppies thats ok.but what about the rest,never mind how much they sell for there are a lot of inconsiderate owners in thailand,read the story of ours,he is the most hansum man the vet has seen and many wanted us to use him but we had him neutered so not to cause suffering to his siblings.our dog cost his owner 20,000bht but after a year was left to fend for himself if we hadnt taken him he definately would have not lived more than a week.some of us are good owners but there is more bad than good,so please op.although you might be one of them good ones think of the son&daughters your dog might father what will happen to them.