Loukelemen Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Hi gals/guys, I wanted to know the procedure on lawsuit against hotel or motorbike hiring company? I am a student from england london, and now i am in koh samui, my girlfriend and I hired a motorcycle from the hotel, i can drive it and my gf assured me she could and she can... Though we had a slight problem... We asked the manager of the hotel if it was ok to hire and drive on the gravel... So my gf fell off the bike... And she got a bit hurt but nothing major... Will probably cure in the next couple of weeks... However today they asked me to pay for repairs on the bike.... And i know that the bike had marks and was not in that good of a condition at first when we took it... They are asking for 800baht and say they are giving me discount... The woman is saying that we damaged it... All i want to know is how to counter this... I am not paying for something that was already broken... Any law procedure i can take against this? Lou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheechoo Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 since its thailand! Give them 800 and consider yourself luckie! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draftvader Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 You ditched their bike. I think that B800 is a great price, that will only replace one panel. You have already had one accident, don't go looking for another. Pay the bill and smile whilst saying "Thank you". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crille30 Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 You rent then you pay.Its up to you to find out what laws.You are responsible and 800 baht is cheap.Did you take pictures before you drive the bike?you say it have some marks already?did you right it down in the contract?did you tell the place you rent from? Pay and be happy they dont charge you more.Lawsuite? Stop looking to much Tv ,you are in Thailand,pay the 800 and enjoy the rest of your holiday 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JUDAS Posted August 8, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2012 Does anyone actually take responsibility for their actions anymore? 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggunguy Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 then take pictures with the owner next to the bike and the damages when you hire next time... with 800 thb you are off incredibly well, imo... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 800 is a snip....consider yourself lucky and jump on a songthaew in future! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loukelemen Posted August 8, 2012 Author Share Posted August 8, 2012 The bike was old... At least a few years and had damage... I will pay the hiring fee... But 800 is steep for a 2 minute ride? Can any laws prevent the payment... Im entirely sure the damage was already there and that they are just trying to rip us off... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smokie36 Posted August 8, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2012 The bike was old... At least a few years and had damage... I will pay the hiring fee... But 800 is steep for a 2 minute ride? Can any laws prevent the payment... Im entirely sure the damage was already there and that they are just trying to rip us off... If they were ripping you the price would be eight grand. Just pay it and put down to experience. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacktrip Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 you crashed, you pay. if you don't know how to drive on gravel then use paved roads. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draftvader Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 The bike was old... At least a few years and had damage... I will pay the hiring fee... But 800 is steep for a 2 minute ride? Can any laws prevent the payment... Im entirely sure the damage was already there and that they are just trying to rip us off... Laws. Let's cut this one short. No. I don't mean to be short about this one, but if you read through this site (save yourself the bother if this is just a holiday) you will discover that some of the brightest and boldest people have lost their cases with the backing of decent legal teams. It is difficult to explain with-out superlatives so I ask the standard long-term members to hold their horses in tearing me apart as this is for the good of the OP. The courts here will find for the side of an foreigner SO rarely it is ludicrous. Now the "not laws" part. This is the part you REALLY need to listen to. If you like walking and breathing a great deal then B800 might be the cheapest price you will ever pay. Seriously, don't mess. There are numerous threads on here detailing unexplained suicides in this country. Just the other day a man "seemingly" stabbed himself to death. Have you thought about the likelyhood of this? Another man managed to behead himself and hang himself off one of Bangkok's most important bridges. B800. As I have said, pay and say "Thank you". You have 3 500+ posters here recommending the same solution. You came for advice, you got it. If you don't like it then do what you will. Just read a few of the news threads on here first. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loukelemen Posted August 8, 2012 Author Share Posted August 8, 2012 Even if the damage was already there? I checked it right after the crash and was a really minor crash.. There was no damage whatsoever and the bike functioned perfectly.. 800 is still a rip off.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripstanley Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 800 baht after you stated that there was an accident is very cheap. Pay it and then enjoy the rest of your holiday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draftvader Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 We posted at the same time so I'll guess you didn't read it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draftvader Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 I must make it clear that no everybody in Thailand is like this. Far from it, but you are in a tourist hotspot and their patience could be quite thin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loukelemen Posted August 8, 2012 Author Share Posted August 8, 2012 Are you saying they will try and do something to me? I have many people i know in thailand! At least 20 close friends.. And grandad lives across the border is an influential busisness man who might be able to help... He has been in many situations like this... I dont believe the thai people would do such a thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draftvader Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 As I said, not all people in Thailand are like this, but is it really worth it for B800? Right, I'm off this one. Thought I was helping. You are intent, don't really know why you bothered. Good night and good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post simon43 Posted August 8, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2012 And grandad lives across the border is an influential busisness man Are you sure he doesn't live under a bridge - with you??? 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norrona Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Are you saying they will try and do something to me? I have many people i know in thailand! At least 20 close friends.. And grandad lives across the border is an influential busisness man who might be able to help... He has been in many situations like this... I dont believe the thai people would do such a thing? Troll alert 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Yup....nonsense is spewing forth.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattayadingo Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 If you have no actual evidential proof of prior damage you do not have a leg (or two wheels) to stand on. 800 Baht is less than £20 !! And you did crash the bike between you. Pay up and put it down to experience. And next time take photos before you use the bike or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loukelemen Posted August 8, 2012 Author Share Posted August 8, 2012 Thanks so much. I only wanted a few opinions... No one knows anything about legalities? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loukelemen Posted August 8, 2012 Author Share Posted August 8, 2012 I understand where u are comig from... Still 20£ is money for a student... Thanks anyways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loukelemen Posted August 8, 2012 Author Share Posted August 8, 2012 Troll?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jdietz Posted August 8, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2012 I'd suggest going to the courts over this blatant rip-off. You start by making a formal complaint to the police, and hire a lawyer. Until the case gets settled your passport will be confiscated, and you will have to stay in-country. These procedures are fairly uncomplicated. Over the next couple of years you will have to occasionally show up at one hearing or another with your lawyer (and translator if you are not fluent in Thai). In the meantime you are free to enjoy the beach life. Let us know how it worked out for you (I'd guess around mid 2015) -- or just pay the 800 Baht 'cause you actually dumped a rented bike on gravel.. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Just pay up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eek Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 As an aside, regarding your girlfriend. If she has cuts, please make sure she gets them tended to well as infection can happen and can take hold here pretty quickly. Antibiotics, dressing etc, be diligent. Really 100% please listen to this advice..i had a severe infection from a large scrape/cut, which took hold in no time at all, landed me in hospital on four antibiotic drips a day, had to have the wound debrided so my damn foot wouldnt need to be cut off, and finally weeks later, a skin graft done. Im NOT exaggerating! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtoad Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Are you saying they will try and do something to me? I have many people i know in thailand! At least 20 close friends.. And grandad lives across the border is an influential busisness man who might be able to help... He has been in many situations like this... I dont believe the thai people would do such a thing? Yeah, influential buisiness man is going to get involved for 800 baht. Please don't say you are British. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David48 Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 I'd suggest going to the courts over this blatant rip-off. You start by making a formal complaint to the police, and hire a lawyer. Until the case gets settled your passport will be confiscated, and you will have to stay in-country. These procedures are fairly uncomplicated. Over the next couple of years you will have to occasionally show up at one hearing or another with your lawyer (and translator if you are not fluent in Thai). In the meantime you are free to enjoy the beach life. I wonder if anyone has used this ploy as a Visa dodge? A way of staying in the Kingdom without doing the Visa runs? Just asking like ... not suggesting like! . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Don't go near Bangkok Samui Hospital though....if you need a hospital use Thai Inter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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