12call Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 Anyone hear about the Food Hawkers having to cease trading on February 2nd??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_Pat_Pong Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 Not a word. What is your information ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terdsak_12 Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 Pigs will start flying on Feb 3rd also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_Pat_Pong Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 Pigs will start flying on Feb 3rd also. During the May 1992 uprising, the students got to Victory Monument first, the food vendors ran a close second, and the army a bad third. I don't think that it's a threatened Industry at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrentoul Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 This reminds me of Thaksin's edict to farmers to stop raising chickens on small Ma-and-Pa Kettle plots up and down the land. For the government to tell farmers to stop raising chickens in the backyard is to tell them to stop raising their families in a manner they and thousands of others across Asia have been doing for thousands of years. But, hey, nothing is beyond Boss Thaksin, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_Pat_Pong Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 Aren't we talking about sellers of food on the streets Michael ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrentoul Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 We are. I forgot. I wanted to say that food sellers being forced to quit was about as likely to happen as farmers quitting chicken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest IT Manager Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 Good one doc...keep em on track son!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidm Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 During the May 1992 uprising, the students got to Victory Monument first, the food vendors ran a close second, and the army a bad third. I don't think that it's a threatened Industry at all. I think you'll find that's because the army were rather busy "disposing" of demonstrators in the Democracy Monument area at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_Pat_Pong Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 During the May 1992 uprising, the students got to Victory Monument first, the food vendors ran a close second, and the army a bad third. I don't think that it's a threatened Industry at all. I think you'll find that's because the army were rather busy "disposing" of demonstrators in the Democracy Monument area at the time. That was a little bit later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12call Posted February 2, 2004 Author Share Posted February 2, 2004 Good Morning Bangkok and there is not a Food Vendor in sight.Told Ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george Posted February 3, 2004 Share Posted February 3, 2004 Clampdown prompts outcry from vendors The city administration is getting tough with street vendors. BANGKOK: They are now strictly banned from any area within 50 metres of a bus stop, pedestrian walkway, zebra crossing, pavement along a railway line or local road, as well as from all areas where pedestrians frequently complain about vendors blocking their path. A clampdown, ordered by Bangkok governor Samak Sundaravej, began yesterday, prompting an outcry from affected vendors. Some protesting vendors showed up at city hall yesterday, saying they would not move their stalls elsewhere. Deputy city clerk Pongsak Semsan said after meeting the protesters that the city would review its operation against illegal street vendors. However, the ban taking effect in the designated areas would stay. The city would make a final decision today, he added. Of about 50,000 street vendors scattered around Bangkok, only 15,000 have been allowed to do their trade in 267 spots provided by the city, he said. --The Post 2004-02-03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george Posted February 3, 2004 Share Posted February 3, 2004 500 street vendors protest against ban BANGKOK: Five hundred street vendors gathered yesterday outside Bangkok City Hall to protest the enforcement of what they said was an unfair ban on street sales. The vendors from Wattana, Klong Toei and Rat Burana districts said they each paid Bt300 a month to their respective districts and Bt500 per month to the municipal police. The ban, which took effect yesterday, imposes a Bt2,000 fine on vendors who sell goods on roads, footpaths and in public places. They questioned why only certain districts imposed the ban and not all of Bangkok's districts. The director of Wattana district, Surakiat Limcharoen, said his district enforced the ban because the vendors dirtied the streets and blocked the footpaths for pedestrians. Some vendors dispersed after Surakiat told them that he would allow them to continue selling if they came to see him at his office. "I am embarrassed that there are vendors from the district I am responsible for, coming to protest here. If you come to talk with me at my office, I promise I will allow you to sell," he said. However, some protesters remained at city hall demanding that he write that promise on paper in order to show it to the municipal police. Wattana district police chief Chavalit Maneenak told the vendors to suspend selling until the district made a decision about the conditions under which they could trade. "If you defy the ban and bring your goods onto the streets, I will have to fine you," he said. One of the protesting traders, Samrit Chomkamsri, said he was upset and questioned whether any officials had pocketed the fines from traders. "We do not get receipts from the district whenever the local police seize our goods," he said. He also questioned why street vendors in areas such as Victory Monument and Yaowaraj (Chinatown) were allowed to sell even though they also blocked footpaths and made the streets dirty. "I wonder if they only allow rich vendors," he said. Bang Rak district councillor Pipat Lapprattana said the street vendor problem would have to be managed with zoning and laws otherwise the problem would remain. --The Nation 2004-02-03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPCustom69 Posted February 3, 2004 Share Posted February 3, 2004 Some visitors to Thailand enjoy the "charm" of street vendors. And some of them serve good food. I think it's more about the money, isn't it always so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_Pat_Pong Posted February 3, 2004 Share Posted February 3, 2004 Some visitors to Thailand enjoy the "charm" of street vendors. And some of them serve good food. I think it's more about the money, isn't it always so. Isn't money the root of all evil ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somboon Posted February 3, 2004 Share Posted February 3, 2004 And so they should (get rid of them) Footpaths are for walking on, they are there for pedestrians, and not bloody halkers and motorcycles etc. If there are no stalls the nations finest would not be able to demand their backhanders. Doesn't matter where you go in Thailand the ignorant pricks park their bikes and stalls all over the footpaths preventing people from walking on them and forcing them on to the roadway. Thailand will never (ever) lose it's 3rd world status if it doesn't start to enforce some of the existing laws. One could go on ad infinitum i.e. traffic laws, tax, and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drbones666 Posted February 3, 2004 Share Posted February 3, 2004 Isn't money the root of all evil ? No sir, The LACK of money is. Who is credited with that saying? A clever american I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_Pat_Pong Posted February 3, 2004 Share Posted February 3, 2004 Isn't money the root of all evil ? No sir, The LACK of money is. Who is credited with that saying? A clever american I'm sure. It is biblical...predates them United States of America 1 Timothy 6:10 ' Love of money is the root of all evil' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gentleman Posted February 3, 2004 Share Posted February 3, 2004 Great news that this has happened, unclean and a pain in the @ss - I hope it is side cars next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion76 Posted February 3, 2004 Share Posted February 3, 2004 How about the counterfeit t-shirt, weapons and porn sellers on Sukhumvit? Do they have to go too? They are the real nuisance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up2U Posted February 3, 2004 Share Posted February 3, 2004 How is my six-year-old daughter to get her crunchy grass-hopper snacks, if the street hawkers are banned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtnthai Posted February 3, 2004 Share Posted February 3, 2004 Once again it is all about enforcement and management, or the lack there of, isn't it? If the officers responsible for alloting the spaces and keeping track of the vendors were as concerned in the past with enforcing the regulations, making sure that people were in sensible areas and had dealt with the vendors individually in the past, rather than to just take their money, things may not have gotten to this point. Thais have always been willing to pay tea money and put up with abuses toward them if they are allowed to conduct the trade that they have invested in, its all part of the program and figured in from day one. If when taking the payments the officers had made certain that everyone was in an appropriate place and was maintaining their area daily I do not believe it would have gotten so out of hand. But I am sure that they have allowed vendors into areas of question for the simple fact that they will have more of them to shake down and more revenue as a result. I fully understand not wanting vendors near certain areas and I myself get quite frustrated when walking the streets at times, but I feel if handled correctly it can be done. I have spent my life working in 5 star kitchens and I can tell you that the sanitation measures employed by many vendors are equal too or exceed those of the establishment. They operate in plain view and must maitain a certain level of professionalism. Those who don't simply do not get the trade like those who do and are forced out of business. If this crackdown continues I will surely miss them. I moved to Phrakanong district a few years back and one of the considerations of my moving here was the abundance of vendors in the neighborhood. After spending my days in high-end hotel and restautrant facilities I truly enjoy a nice light Khow Man-gai or a pan-fresh Phad Thai and a crispy Hoy Tort. A sticky Lad Na and the ever fattening Khow Kaa Moo, too. Don't you? There have been volumes of travel books dedicated to the street vendors of Thailand and they are one reason people come here for holiday. Surely there is a happy medium. And, last but not least, what about all the Thais livng on megear salaries, with no cooking facilities in thier tiny rooms? What will they eat three times a day? Mama noodles? What about the markets and farmers? What of the landlords and equipment manufacturers. As always the scope of things gets larger as you start to really examine it. And, last but not least, what about the culture? mtnthai ps- Oh, and one last thing. Who will the villans and police crash into during the ubiquitous chase scenes in the movies? No chickens flying, no oranges to slip on and no fat mamas to jostle about. Shameful state of affairs that would be. Talk about a loss of culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandstone Art Posted February 3, 2004 Share Posted February 3, 2004 The charm of Bkk will be gone if those side street hawkers are forced out of their little space. What are they going to do or have the govt give them alternative location to sell their stuffs?? So much for a effecient govt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronnoi Posted February 3, 2004 Share Posted February 3, 2004 why are these traders paying Bt500 per month to the municipal police. They pay the council for their site, so why do they have to pay the Police??? Bribes that Thaksin was cracking down on last yr???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_Pat_Pong Posted February 3, 2004 Share Posted February 3, 2004 why are these traders paying Bt500 per month to the municipal police. They pay the council for their site, so why do they have to pay the Police??? Bribes that Thaksin was cracking down on last yr???? The night life and elephants are higher in the PM's priority list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12call Posted February 3, 2004 Author Share Posted February 3, 2004 I thought the PM was going to tell us how many people were killed during the War on Drugs(1 year ago this week). I also thought that the KING requested this info in his December 5th Speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_Pat_Pong Posted February 3, 2004 Share Posted February 3, 2004 I thought the PM was going to tell us how many people were killed during the War on Drugs(1 year ago this week).I also thought that the KING requested this info in his December 5th Speech. It'll be a matter of national security, and thus, the information is unable to be shared with others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
udon Posted February 3, 2004 Share Posted February 3, 2004 I've given up trying to go anywhere on Sukh on crutches or a wheelchair because of those fking hawkers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marto Posted February 3, 2004 Share Posted February 3, 2004 How is my six-year-old daughter to get her crunchy grass-hopper snacks, if the street hawkers are banned? 7-Eleven. May be they will start the business with crispy roaches and grasshoppers. Really - the street hawkers are one part of Thailand charm - even if they are sometimes nuisance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchFARANGbkk Posted February 3, 2004 Share Posted February 3, 2004 Why not trying to teach them instead how to work without blocking the sidewalk and how to be clean? Dreaming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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