shariq607 Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Hi, i was recently looking at the internet and found a thai person selling Shell helix ultra 5W-40 for only 1200 baht online. The same oil costs 1740 baht at various shell gas stations. So my question is are there fake counterfeit oils out there in thailand? If so how to do you distinguish between Genuine Shell oil and their counterfeit counterparts? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketcher Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Very possibly. Best thing to do if you want shell oil is buy it from a shell fuel station. If it sounds too good to be true.... You know the rest! Sent from my GT-P7500 using Thaivisa Connect App Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 I had a Shell oil change near by. The guy said to the Mrs, happy you come here because oil ''real Shell'', others not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siampreggers Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Just because a paid member of staff tells you it's real, it doesn't mean it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Just because a paid member of staff tells you it's real, it doesn't mean it is. But this non member of staff looks at the can seal. ............................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailoht Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 (edited) I had a Shell oil change near by. The guy said to the Mrs, happy you come here because oil ''real Shell'', others not. I am surprised you don't change the oil yourself! At least you do(?) look at the seal before they put it into your truck? Also,is there a facility where the public can have oil tested for its viscosity? Edited August 27, 2012 by thailoht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siampreggers Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 If it's got a seal on it, it's kosher! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shariq607 Posted August 27, 2012 Author Share Posted August 27, 2012 I had a Shell oil change near by. The guy said to the Mrs, happy you come here because oil ''real Shell'', others not. Is it possible if i could take the bottle of shell helix ultra to shell stations to let the staff check it prior to using it on my car ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 I had a Shell oil change near by. The guy said to the Mrs, happy you come here because oil ''real Shell'', others not. I am surprised you don't change the oil yourself! At least you do(?) look at the seal before they put it into your truck? Also,is there a facility where the public can have oil tested for its viscosity? Unfortunately, Vertigo has finished all my oily rag stuff . BUT, we all know that oil cans are sealed from refinery and can be checked at any garage for the real stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siampreggers Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 (edited) I had a Shell oil change near by. The guy said to the Mrs, happy you come here because oil ''real Shell'', others not. Is it possible if i could take the bottle of shell helix ultra to shell stations to let the staff check it prior to using it on my car ? Do you think they'd a) know b ) care c) give the farang the answer he wants in order to end the uncomfortable social situation ? Edited August 27, 2012 by siampreggers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthurwait Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Oil bought in vey large quantites is cheaper by a fair whack and there's a large mark up on it. The person selling on line - It maybe fake , but it may also be genuine bought in large quantites without the overheads of the staff, the land, shells share, most likely tax, etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailoht Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Unfortunately, Vertigo has finished all my oily rag stuff . BUT, we all know that oil cans are sealed from refinery and can be checked at any garage for the real stuff. Sorry to hear about your vertigo. Would you say that those plastic liter oil containers are good-to-go if the 'seal' is intact on them or are they more prone to 'tampering' than the cans of oil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morakot Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 If it's got a seal on it, it's kosher! Doubt it that a rabbi would certify engine oil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanKlaasen Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 If it's got a seal on it, it's kosher! So you think that they could produce a identical fake bottle, have it printed with the fake logo's from Shell, but wouldn't be able to seal the bottle? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LennyW Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 More likely to be "off the back of a lorry" than fake! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morakot Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 More likely to be "off the back of a lorry" than fake! Agree. This is more likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Unfortunately, Vertigo has finished all my oily rag stuff . BUT, we all know that oil cans are sealed from refinery and can be checked at any garage for the real stuff. Sorry to hear about your vertigo. Would you say that those plastic liter oil containers are good-to-go if the 'seal' is intact on them or are they more prone to 'tampering' than the cans of oil? Yes, BUT, look at the spelling on the bottle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shariq607 Posted August 27, 2012 Author Share Posted August 27, 2012 If it's got a seal on it, it's kosher! Doubt it that a rabbi would certify engine oil. i thought its the rabbis who owe the oil market by buying from mullahs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rics21 Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 1. the engine oil is fake (non shell helix), a no-brand engine oil maybe inserted into a used shell helix bottle. 2. the engine oil was stolen. 3. it is on SALE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murf Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 I will do it you for 1100 baht... If you are interested please PM me. Just joking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 More likely to be "off the back of a lorry" than fake! Agree. This is more likely. Or coming over the border from Malaysia same as the cut cut price fuel which is sold around Songkhla/Hat Yai area....cheap fuel is smuggled in from Malaysia and sold in Thailand, no reason why they couldnt do the same thing with other products Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 I had a Shell oil change near by. The guy said to the Mrs, happy you come here because oil ''real Shell'', others not. Is it possible if i could take the bottle of shell helix ultra to shell stations to let the staff check it prior to using it on my car ? Do you think they'd a) know b ) care c) give the farang the answer he wants in order to end the uncomfortable social situation ? d) Do you think a petrol station would have the proper equipment to check product quality ?, you could put cooking oil in a shell container and the average pump jockey anywhere in world wouldnt know the difference 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 I have never heard of or seen fake oil. So I would not be worried at all and buy it if you think the deal is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David006 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 interesting...probably have a 500k-1 mil bt vehicle and worrying about saving 500 baht on oil??? ........ha'pth a tar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanKlaasen Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 interesting...probably have a 500k-1 mil bt vehicle and worrying about saving 500 baht on oil??? ........ha'pth a tar? Mmmh, 500 baht x 8 liters is 4000 Baht, when changing oil every 5000 Km this can easly add up to 20.000 Baht a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffreyMcCollum Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 interesting...probably have a 500k-1 mil bt vehicle and worrying about saving 500 baht on oil??? ........ha'pth a tar? Mmmh, 500 baht x 8 liters is 4000 Baht, when changing oil every 5000 Km this can easly add up to 20.000 Baht a year. Gas stations are the most expensive place to buy oil. On line or a super store much less And what is with this funny math ? What car or truck uses 8 liters. My truck 4.5 my car just under 3,5 both with filter change. Both are 2012 models and both owners manuals don't suggest changing every 5000 km. So for those of you out there who drive 25000 km a year, (I do X4) Oils have improved over the years. This is not 1970 any more. she 3000 miles (5000 km) doesn't hold any more. My BMW even lets the car go up to 25,000 km between changes So check your owners manual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanKlaasen Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 interesting...probably have a 500k-1 mil bt vehicle and worrying about saving 500 baht on oil??? ........ha'pth a tar? Mmmh, 500 baht x 8 liters is 4000 Baht, when changing oil every 5000 Km this can easly add up to 20.000 Baht a year. And what is with this funny math ? What car or truck uses 8 liters. My truck 4.5 my car just under 3,5 both with filter change. So check your owners manual Well maybe both Chevrolet and Nissan are cheating me then and have rewritten the manual as it says 7 liters for the Nissan and I recall the Colorado which is the same engine as the Isuzu being 8 liters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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