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Oops.. sorry.. that should be the all new Nissan Sylphy!

Been invited to intend as VIP guest at the unveiling of this new car at my local showroom. Anyone seen one on the road yet? Tiida replacement has been a long time coming. Hope this new one raises the game.

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I'd say it looks good, but a truly horrible name. 1.6L. 746,000B to 931,000B. If you want any extras, you've got to go automatic. Why are manufacturers doing this now? What happened to people who like to drive? OK for an old man I'd say.

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I'd say it looks good, but a truly horrible name. 1.6L. 746,000B to 931,000B. If you want any extras, you've got to go automatic. Why are manufacturers doing this now? What happened to people who like to drive? OK for an old man I'd say.

It does look good, although the new Cruze and the new Focus look very good too.

As for the joys of manual, that does kind of depend on what the clutch and gearbox are like. From my recent experience, i'm not so sure.

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I really don't get wood in modern cars.

Focus for me is much nicer. Never really liked saloons in this price range.

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Looks pretty dull I would say, just another bland design...yawn. Pricewise not really anything that interesting. Definitely think the Focus is better, the top model with the 2.0 engine and all safety features is vastly superior.

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Looks pretty dull I would say, just another bland design...yawn. Pricewise not really anything that interesting. Definitely think the Focus is better, the top model with the 2.0 engine and all safety features is vastly superior.

Seen better, seen worse too.

All things being even, i think in this segment, the Focus is a no-brainer. But all things aren't even.

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wow, the inside looks exactly like our Camry with the fake woodgrain.

It looks like toy car inside, fake woodgrain should be banned in cars.

The front of it even looks like a Camry

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wow, the inside looks exactly like our Camry with the fake woodgrain.

It looks like toy car inside, fake woodgrain should be banned in cars.

The front of it even looks like a Camry

Whether it is real or fake, wood seems indeed a strange thing to put in a modern day car.

Does anyone know if the wood trim is obligatory with the upper models, or is there a choice?

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I saw on the truck for delivery, looked pretty good.

As far as the phony wood, you could always pop it out and wrap or spray them. I think the carbon fiber dash insert wraps look good.

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Rix, i want to know why you got invited to the unveiling of the new syphilis?

The car itself - sleepy, this whole segment of cars is so hmmm boring, and they will sell millions of them no doubt.

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Rix, i want to know why you got invited to the unveiling of the new syphilis?

LOL. Well, the event wasn't as grand as perhaps it sounded. Just my local Nissan dealership. Bought a car off them earlier in the year and they seem to think i have more money to throw their way.

The car itself - sleepy, this whole segment of cars is so hmmm boring, and they will sell millions of them no doubt.

I'm actually not quite as down about the car market in Thailand, or indeed this particular segment, as you, having seen what things were like 10, 15 years ago, in way of consumer choices. Things have improved.

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I saw on the truck for delivery, looked pretty good.

As far as the phony wood, you could always pop it out and wrap or spray them. I think the carbon fiber dash insert wraps look good.

Seems a bit of a Heath Robinson approach to be having with a new car.

Can just imagine doing that, and then hitting a pot hole, and seeing all the panels popping out simultaneously.

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wow, the inside looks exactly like our Camry with the fake woodgrain.

It looks like toy car inside, fake woodgrain should be banned in cars.

The front of it even looks like a Camry

Whether it is real or fake, wood seems indeed a strange thing to put in a modern day car.

Does anyone know if the wood trim is obligatory with the upper models, or is there a choice?

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Rix, i want to know why you got invited to the unveiling of the new syphilis?

LOL. Well, the event wasn't as grand as perhaps it sounded. Just my local Nissan dealership. Bought a car off them earlier in the year and they seem to think i have more money to throw their way.

The car itself - sleepy, this whole segment of cars is so hmmm boring, and they will sell millions of them no doubt.

I'm actually not quite as down about the car market in Thailand, or indeed this particular segment, as you, having seen what things were like 10, 15 years ago, in way of consumer choices. Things have improved.

Comparing cars of 14 years ago is like comparing TVs of 14 years ago.... ;)

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All this walnut-talk has given me a Walnut Whip craving.

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Comparing cars of 14 years ago is like comparing TVs of 14 years ago.... wink.png

The comparison i was making was cars being sold in Thailand 14 years ago relative to cars being sold in the West at that time, versus cars being sold now in Thailand relative to cars being sold in the West now.

Point being that the gap has closed significantly. Yes Thailand still gets short changed with poor spec versions of what is being sold in Europe / US, but at least Thailand is on the same generation of car now. It wasn't before.

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Comparing cars of 14 years ago is like comparing TVs of 14 years ago.... wink.png

The comparison i was making was cars being sold in Thailand 14 years ago relative to cars being sold in the West at that time, versus cars being sold now in Thailand relative to cars being sold in the West now.

Point being that the gap has closed significantly. Yes Thailand still gets short changed with poor spec versions of what is being sold in Europe / US, but at least Thailand is on the same generation of car now. It wasn't before.

what cars being sold in the west is irrelevant unless you are a rich kid importing ferrari's oops.

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Comparing cars of 14 years ago is like comparing TVs of 14 years ago.... wink.png

The comparison i was making was cars being sold in Thailand 14 years ago relative to cars being sold in the West at that time, versus cars being sold now in Thailand relative to cars being sold in the West now.

Point being that the gap has closed significantly. Yes Thailand still gets short changed with poor spec versions of what is being sold in Europe / US, but at least Thailand is on the same generation of car now. It wasn't before.

what cars being sold in the west is irrelevant unless you are a rich kid importing ferrari's oops.

It's perfectly relevant in the discussion of how the car market in Thailand has become more competitive. Take for example air bags. For a long time, the Thai car market saw no particular need to fit their cars with these, which seemed a terrible shame as car manufacturers were fitting these life saving devices into cars they were selling in other markets around the world. The situation has now improved. If you advocate not making the comparison, just because the cars in the West are not available for people to buy here, well then the situation may well not improve, and the Thai consumer will continue to be fobbed off with yesterday's technology.

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Comparing cars of 14 years ago is like comparing TVs of 14 years ago.... wink.png

The comparison i was making was cars being sold in Thailand 14 years ago relative to cars being sold in the West at that time, versus cars being sold now in Thailand relative to cars being sold in the West now.

Point being that the gap has closed significantly. Yes Thailand still gets short changed with poor spec versions of what is being sold in Europe / US, but at least Thailand is on the same generation of car now. It wasn't before.

what cars being sold in the west is irrelevant unless you are a rich kid importing ferrari's oops.

It's perfectly relevant in the discussion of how the car market in Thailand has become more competitive. Take for example air bags. For a long time, the Thai car market saw no particular need to fit their cars with these, which seemed a terrible shame as car manufacturers were fitting these life saving devices into cars they were selling in other markets around the world. The situation has now improved. If you advocate not making the comparison, just because the cars in the West are not available for people to buy here, well then the situation may well not improve, and the Thai consumer will continue to be fobbed off with yesterday's technology.

Rix if you want to get into a debate fine, we can be here all day. My point is all these cars look the same = boring. This car in particular looks like it rolled off a Hyundai line from the 90's.

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Rix if you want to get into a debate fine, we can be here all day. My point is all these cars look the same = boring. This car in particular looks like it rolled off a Hyundai line from the 90's.

I don't particularly want to get into a debate no. My point was just that the car market in Thailand has caught up quite a bit with the Western market, compared with how it was when i arrived.

This new Nissan is certainly no stunner, but when you compare it with a 90s Hyundai, it reminds me of a chap at work in my first job in the UK in the early 90s. He bought a brand new Hyundai Pony. It looked like this:

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Had the piss ripped out of him something chronic. Rightly so. Give me syphilis over a pony any day!

Oops... think i just inadvertently revealed my secret equine fetish.

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Rix if you want to get into a debate fine, we can be here all day. My point is all these cars look the same = boring. This car in particular looks like it rolled off a Hyundai line from the 90's.

I don't particularly want to get into a debate no. My point was just that the car market in Thailand has caught up quite a bit with the Western market, compared with how it was when i arrived.

This new Nissan is certainly no stunner, but when you compare it with a 90s Hyundai, it reminds me of a chap at work in my first job in the UK in the early 90s. He bought a brand new Hyundai Pony. It looked like this:

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Had the piss ripped out of him something chronic. Rightly so. Give me syphilis over a pony any day!

Oops... think i just inadvertently revealed my secret equine fetish.

ok maybe a 4 door tiburon from 2000 lol

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ok maybe a 4 door tiburon from 2000 lol

Had to google that. Only ever known that as the Hyundai Coupe. Guess you must have spent time in the US to use that name?

Actually i always thought for the money, that wasn't a bad car, and it kind of marked Hyundai shaking off that awful image it had of selling crap dowdy cars.

But we are veering off topic, like a 90s Hyundai Pony being hit by a cross breeze.

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Comparing cars of 14 years ago is like comparing TVs of 14 years ago.... wink.png

The comparison i was making was cars being sold in Thailand 14 years ago relative to cars being sold in the West at that time, versus cars being sold now in Thailand relative to cars being sold in the West now.

Point being that the gap has closed significantly. Yes Thailand still gets short changed with poor spec versions of what is being sold in Europe / US, but at least Thailand is on the same generation of car now. It wasn't before.

what cars being sold in the west is irrelevant unless you are a rich kid importing ferrari's oops.

It's perfectly relevant in the discussion of how the car market in Thailand has become more competitive. Take for example air bags. For a long time, the Thai car market saw no particular need to fit their cars with these, which seemed a terrible shame as car manufacturers were fitting these life saving devices into cars they were selling in other markets around the world. The situation has now improved. If you advocate not making the comparison, just because the cars in the West are not available for people to buy here, well then the situation may well not improve, and the Thai consumer will continue to be fobbed off with yesterday's technology.

Many people do not want to pay an addtitional US$600-1,000 a pop (no pun intended) for airbags.

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Many people do not want to pay an addtitional US$600-1,000 a pop (no pun intended) for airbags.

Well i think regardless, they should be fitted to all cars as standard now, as they have been proven to save lives. Not in every instance of course, but then not in every instance do seat belts save lives, but they up your chances in most situations considerably.

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