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I would like to ask if anyone has a good hospital they can recommend for delivery of bay due in April some time. We are not convinced the baby will be healthier the more ultrasound it gets exposed to. Neither are we sure that the number of needles penetrating the little innocent baby's skin as soon as it arrives is a guarantee of perfect health. Wink, wink...

I am sure there are widwives / smaller clinics that do this kind of thing.

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No, there are not. Deliveries are done in hospitals. From what you say your concern is not with what is usually termed natural childbirth (i.e. a vaginal delivery without analgesia) but rather with foregoing ultrasounds during antenatal care and vaccination at birth.

Your wife can certainly refuse untrasounds if she wants, but they do not "expose" the baby to anything, they are harmless sound waves. They can detect important problems prior to birth some of which my be life threatening. There is no valid health reason to refuse one, but you can if you want to. But be aware that it may mean that serious abnormalities that might have been treated and corrected before birth will go uncorrected, and it may also reduce the doctor's ability to ascertain for sure the position the baby is in, which has implications for how the delivery will go.

Two vaccines are commonly administered at birth in Thailand: BCG and Hepatitis B. As parents you can refuse these, but I would seriously advise against declining the Hep B.Hep B is endemic in Thailand, very serious, and easily contacted by small children in the course of rough and tumble play etc. Lack of the hep B vaccine may also make it impossible to enroll your child in school later.

The argument for BCG is weaker, although it does decrease the incidence and severity of TB in children.

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Thank you for your answer! I am not convinced of the harmlessness of the ultrasound waves. They used x-rays for a long time, but they were wrong about those. Very seldom their wisdom lasts very long, isn't it? There are a dozen studies on diagnostic ultrasound and the more I hear, the more sceptical I become.

Check this one out:

The title is: Dr. Robert Mendelsohn on Pregnancy and the Dangers of Ultrasound

One study showed that mice were brain damaged from ultrasound and couldn't find the hidden cheese any more. A minor problem, I am sure. Can easily be corrected by making more smelly cheese ....

Anyway, it's the vaccines I am most worried about. In this video clip we get a glimplse of what goes into a modern vaccine:

Title: Vaccination: The Hidden Truth - Chapter 5 Vaccine ingredients

But, yes, you're right about one thing, that is for sure, I am more concerned about what is done to the mother and child before the actual birth than the bay the baby is delivered. Where I come from at the Official Health Stations they push vaccines and try their best to inject as many as possible, but if you question this, and ask what guarantees they

can give you that it actually is safe and further what compensation they will give you if something goes wrong, they quickly back out and the whole thing is suddenly not compulsory after all! Hmmmmm? What is wrong with this picture? Either it is safe or it isn't! Right? And the answer is obvious; it is highly dangerous and not safe at all.

The problem here is that with a baby you only get one chance to do things right, and you and the baby and nobody else, not the doctor, not the hospital, not the manufacturers of the vaccines, not the govt, none of these have to live with the consequenses. You and the baby do!

But thank you for the warnings. I am sure they were well meant. But I am afraid you do not have all the facts. Otherwise you would have given a different recommendation. Please do some research and I am confident you will find the facts to be just as shocking as i did.

PS Sorry to come on so strong, but when it comes to protecting the lives of little innocent babies, I cannot softpeddle or pull any punches.

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Your "facts" are not factually accurate. I am thoroughly up on the research. I suggest you read scientific literature rather than getting your "facts" from you tube.

You also need to keep in mind that it is not a zero sum game. there are risks and consequences to not being vaccinated as well.

Nobody claims that vaccines are totally without risks or side effects...only that the risks are smaller than the risks of not being vaccinated. This is especially so for Hepatits B for a child born.raised in Thailand.

Mercury (actually, thimerosol, with is what they mean) is no longer used in vaccines.

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