Pattaya To Hua Hin Ferry Proposals Discussed In Meeting

[Rimmer]

Pattaya to Hua Hin Ferry proposals discussed in meeting

PATTAYA:--A meeting was held at the Green Park Resort in North Pattaya on Wednesday to discuss plans for a new link between Pattaya and Hua Hin via boat.

The Marine Department of Thailand organized the meeting chaired by it’s Deputy Director, Khun Nut. Also there was City Hall Officials and a selection of tourism industry specialists to discuss the possibility of starting the service. Research has been undertaken by the Chulalongkorn University for this public sector project which will be entirely funded by the government and is expected to boost the Pattaya economy by an impressive 2 Trillion Baht, according to the research. By road, the distance between Pattaya and Hua Hin is 370 kms and takes 5.3 hours to complete on average.

The new ferry service, if approved, would travel only 113kms at a speed of 30 knots and will take only 3.3 hours. Further research and analysis of previous failed attempts to run a similar service from Pattaya to Hua Hin will take place before the plans are submitted to Government for budget approval.

Full story:http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/61801/pattaya-hua-hin-ferry-proposals-discussed-meeting/

-- Pattaya One 2012-09-06

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[LennyW]

Previous attempts failed because it was one way traffic, people came from Hua Hin to Pattaya but nobody wanted to go, or go back to Hua Hin!

[TheWalkingMan]

Research has been undertaken by the Chulalongkorn University for this public sector project which will be entirely funded by the government and is expected to boost the Pattaya economy by an impressive 2 Trillion Baht, according to the research.

2,000,000,000,000 baht or, per the good people at xe.com, USD 64,070,938,885.38.

I wonder if Chulalongkorn actually distributed a report with this number.

[Soutpeel]

anyone else spot the other mistake with their arithmetric, as regards the transit time between Pattaya and Hua Hin ?

A free McDonalds dinner with the ladyboy of your choice for the correct answer..

Edited September 6, 2012 by Soutpeel

[sotsira]

Ok, i'll give it a go:

One Knot is equal to 1.852 Km per hour

X 30 Knots per hour = 55.56 kms covered per hour.

If total distance is 113km divided by 55.56 = 2.03 hrs to reach destination.

[Soutpeel]

Ok, i'll give it a go:

One Knot is equal to 1.852 Km per hour

X 30 Knots per hour = 55.56 kms covered per hour.

If total distance is 113km divided by 55.56 = 2.03 hrs to reach destination.

Give the man a cigar, Ladyboy and voucher for McDonalds dinner in the post to you

...I always thought Chulalongkorn was one of the better universites, but it appears they didnt know that you cant divide distance in km/h by knots, the distance would need to be in nautical miles or as sotsira has done covert the knots to km/h

Further..it must be some vessel they intend to use cruising at 30 knots, the fuel costs alone may make this a pie in the sky idea anyway at you would be burning a serious amount of fuel on each leg

[EvilDrSomkid]

So, now the option is to either risk your life by traveling by road and put your life is the hands of a maniac bus/van driver, or possibly drowning at sea.

Boosting the economy by 2 TRILLION baht? Wow, that is a lot of money. Over how many centuries?

Public service, huh? So, 2 tier ticket pricing as well? Thai national 100 baht. Farang: 1000baht.

[EvilDrSomkid]

Ok, i'll give it a go:

One Knot is equal to 1.852 Km per hour

X 30 Knots per hour = 55.56 kms covered per hour.

If total distance is 113km divided by 55.56 = 2.03 hrs to reach destination.

Give the man a cigar, Ladyboy and voucher for McDonalds dinner in the post to you

...I always thought Chulalongkorn was one of the better universites, but it appears they didnt know that you cant divide distance in km/h by knots, the distance would need to be in nautical miles or as sotsira has done covert the knots to km/h

Further..it must be some vessel they intend to use cruising at 30 knots, the fuel costs alone may make this a pie in the sky idea anyway at you would be burning a serious amount of fuel on each leg

If a catamaran or a hydrofoil boat, might be doable.

[gerry53]

What a wonderful proposal, but I must be a skeptic. I was hoping they start building the overhead rapid transit system they had talked about to ease the traffic problems first. Actually the transportation mafia and their supporting cast seems to have control of everything including the baht bus system? It would be nice if even one Pattaya taxi turned on their meter but that would bring swift reprocussions . Maybe the study should have run this proposal by the mafia first for their approval!

[Dag Ekeberg]

The Swedish owners of the last attempt at a ferry service (Thailiving Ferry) quit Dec 14 last year, at the start of High Season…

They’ll be kicking themselves now, when they read this, 2 trillion.

[Boatman]

Easily do-able. Anyone ever take the jet boats from Hong Kong to Macau?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:HK_Macau_Ferry_Piers_Sheung_Wan.JPG

Edited September 7, 2012 by Boatman

[sabai-dee-man]

Easily do-able. Anyone ever take the jet boats from Hong Kong to Macau?

http://en.wikipedia...._Sheung_Wan.JPG

Yeah, easily doable... in Hong Kong, or on Brittany Ferries between the UK and France on the Condor routes, and no doubt many other locations that aren't Thailand! They couldn't organise the proverbial pi$$up in a brewery.

[notime]

They should have done this long time ago. There are fast catamaran boats (Lomprayah) from Samui, via Koh Phangan and Koh Tao to Chumphon and it works although the distance is bigger than from Hua Hin to Pattaya.

Edited September 7, 2012 by notime

[Chalard]

Easily do-able. Anyone ever take the jet boats from Hong Kong to Macau?

http://en.wikipedia...._Sheung_Wan.JPG

Yep, the boat service is great.

But where are the casino's in HH & Pattaya???

[MJCM]

They should have done this long time ago. There are fast catamaran boats (Lomprayah) from Samui, via Koh Phangan and Koh Tao to Chumphon and it works although the distance is bigger than from Hua Hin to Pattaya.

Yes indeed, but these are islands and thus need those boats for easy & cheap access. Pattaya and Hua Hin are easily served by Bus / Minibuses which I guess have a cheaper fare then a Ferry. And don't forget that Ferries are very dependable on the weather.

Edited September 7, 2012 by MJCM

[notime]

Water transportation is one of the most cost effective, so it will definitely be cheaper to travel 120 km by boat in comparison with 370km by van or bus. And this service would add another travel option that is always welcome. If it was not done before it's probably because powerful, decision making people, who ARE in Bangkok were afraid to miss out on few $$ of tourist income. Very kiasu (Singlish for "afraid to loose").

Edited September 7, 2012 by notime

[fire and ice]

Ok, i'll give it a go:

One Knot is equal to 1.852 Km per hour

X 30 Knots per hour = 55.56 kms covered per hour.

If total distance is 113km divided by 55.56 = 2.03 hrs to reach destination.

Give the man a cigar, Ladyboy and voucher for McDonalds dinner in the post to you

...I always thought Chulalongkorn was one of the better universites, but it appears they didnt know that you cant divide distance in km/h by knots, the distance would need to be in nautical miles or as sotsira has done covert the knots to km/h

Further..it must be some vessel they intend to use cruising at 30 knots, the fuel costs alone may make this a pie in the sky idea anyway at you would be burning a serious amount of fuel on each leg

If a catamaran or a hydrofoil boat, might be doable.

The maths works out perfectly - 3.3 hours, less 2.03 travel time (at max speed) = a reasonable 1.27 hours for loading/unloading, reaching full speed & slowing down, weather slowing it down,p plus time spend trying to get the captain awake from his drunken sleep.

[nurgut73]

Pattaya to Hua Hin Ferry? All other problems in this country solved already so they can concentrate on nonsense like this?

[SICHONSTEVE]

Research has been undertaken by the Chulalongkorn University for this public sector project which will be entirely funded by the government and is expected to boost the Pattaya economy by an impressive 2 Trillion Baht, according to the research.

2,000,000,000,000 baht or, per the good people at xe.com, USD 64,070,938,885.38.

I wonder if Chulalongkorn actually distributed a report with this number.

In America yes, but for normal countries knock 3 noughts off this (and the 38 cents designed to accentuate the number) and you are left with about 64 million US dollars or just over 40 million pounds - which I'm sure you will agree is not such an astounding figure!!!!

[Soutpeel]

Ok, i'll give it a go:

One Knot is equal to 1.852 Km per hour

X 30 Knots per hour = 55.56 kms covered per hour.

If total distance is 113km divided by 55.56 = 2.03 hrs to reach destination.

Give the man a cigar, Ladyboy and voucher for McDonalds dinner in the post to you

...I always thought Chulalongkorn was one of the better universites, but it appears they didnt know that you cant divide distance in km/h by knots, the distance would need to be in nautical miles or as sotsira has done covert the knots to km/h

Further..it must be some vessel they intend to use cruising at 30 knots, the fuel costs alone may make this a pie in the sky idea anyway at you would be burning a serious amount of fuel on each leg

If a catamaran or a hydrofoil boat, might be doable.

The maths works out perfectly - 3.3 hours, less 2.03 travel time (at max speed) = a reasonable 1.27 hours for loading/unloading, reaching full speed & slowing down, weather slowing it down,p plus time spend trying to get the captain awake from his drunken sleep.

Not arguing what your rational but thats not what was written..."113kms at a speed of 30 knots and will take only 3.3 hours"

[Soutpeel]

Easily do-able. Anyone ever take the jet boats from Hong Kong to Macau?

http://en.wikipedia...._Sheung_Wan.JPG

But do you really think thats what they are going to provide..?

If I remember correctly this trip costs about HK$ 140, about THB 600, for a +/- 1hour trip and about a 60 km run

Pattaya is proposing a 113km run...so roughly we could be talking about THB 1000/1200 a ticket,

Do we really think there is the turnover of people on daily basis to make this viable proposition ?

The driver for Macau is the casino's and one suspects the casino's would be "sponsoring" the running costs of the ferries to a certain degree to get punters in

Edited September 7, 2012 by Soutpeel

[jbrain]

Ok, i'll give it a go:

One Knot is equal to 1.852 Km per hour

X 30 Knots per hour = 55.56 kms covered per hour.

If total distance is 113km divided by 55.56 = 2.03 hrs to reach destination.

Give the man a cigar, Ladyboy and voucher for McDonalds dinner in the post to you

...I always thought Chulalongkorn was one of the better universites, but it appears they didnt know that you cant divide distance in km/h by knots, the distance would need to be in nautical miles or as sotsira has done covert the knots to km/h

Further..it must be some vessel they intend to use cruising at 30 knots, the fuel costs alone may make this a pie in the sky idea anyway at you would be burning a serious amount of fuel on each leg

If a catamaran or a hydrofoil boat, might be doable.

Wasn't the previous attempt using a catemaran?

[harrry]

Cats generally are fairly uncomfortable in heavy weather.

[SICHONSTEVE]

Cats generally are fairly uncomfortable in heavy weather.

And in the presence of pit bull terriers!!!

[khunken]

As it seems to be white elephant time, I'd have thought a small commuter air service would be more practical, maybe even a seaplane service.

I'd be interested to see some research that shows what the demand is for any type of service between the two resorts.

[luckyman]

anyone else spot the other mistake with their arithmetric, as regards the transit time between Pattaya and Hua Hin ?A free McDonalds dinner with the ladyboy of your choice for the correct answer..

For starters, it takes me usually only 3.5 hours from P to HH and I drive only 100-110 km/h.

Secondly, the ferry that used to service this line previously was not allowed to go ashore in Hua Hin because of the King's Palace so it has to go a bit further to Pranburi.And from there the passengers took a mini van that takes 30-40 minutes to reach Hua Hin, one hour during the weekends.

So the ferry is one hour slower than a car/minivan/taxi.

Last, it costed approx. 700 baht per person for a one way ticket, if three persons travel from HH to P and back, renting a car incl. cost of fuel is still much cheaper than the ferry.

The old one could carry about 70 people but never had more than 7 or 8 people per trip, that's why it failed, I guess.

I'ld like a free Mac dinner but you can keep the katoey for yourself...!

:-)

Edited September 7, 2012 by luckyman

[lockman]

However these ferries would be carefully watched and guarded against improper loading or excessive passengers. Just like the buses always are.

[monty]

Water transportation is one of the most cost effective, so it will definitely be cheaper to travel 120 km by boat in comparison with 370km by van or bus. And this service would add another travel option that is always welcome. If it was not done before it's probably because powerful, decision making people, who ARE in Bangkok were afraid to miss out on few $$ of tourist income. Very kiasu (Singlish for "afraid to loose").

True but only for real big ships.

And they won't be going 30 knots.

Trying to go fast on water burns huge amounts of fuel.

Smaller vessels going 30 knots will be very expensive per passenger mile.

As a reference, a 60ft powercat powered by two 375 hp engines will probably reach 25-30 knots wide open throttle. Burning well over 100 liters of diesel per hour.

A vessel like this probably transports not much more passengers then a tourbus.

2.5 hours will cost you over 300 liters of diesel to travel the 114 km.

A coach carrying the same 50 passengers will burn less then half that diesel taking the 370 km overland route.

Going fast on water needs either a planing vessel (not really suited for passengers as very uncomfortable on choppy water) or a hydrofoil.

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[pomchop]

What a wonderful proposal, but I must be a skeptic. I was hoping they start building the overhead rapid transit system they had talked about to ease the traffic problems first. Actually the transportation mafia and their supporting cast seems to have control of everything including the baht bus system? It would be nice if even one Pattaya taxi turned on their meter but that would bring swift reprocussions . Maybe the study should have run this proposal by the mafia first for their approval!

you are really complaining about the ten baht buses in pattaya?.....wow.

[Spalpeen]

Look up "Caspian Sea Monster" on YouTube.