Second test today of Bangkok's flood

The Nation

BANGKOK: -- The government will run water-drainage test in the eastern part of Bangkok today to study the efficiency of its flood diversion tunnel and the capacity of canals to handle large amounts of rainfall, the National Water Resources and Flood Policy Committee (NWRFPC) said yesterday.

It has also approved Bt300 million to support flood-prevention facilities, including pumps to push water out to sea in Nonthaburi province’s Bang Kruay district.

Officials have also come up with a plan to help big cities such as Bangkok, Sukhothai and Songkhla to tackle future flooding.

The drainage test in eastern Bangkok, conducted by NWRFPC, will run from 2pm to 4pm today.

The water agency will open the watergate at Khlong Song canal and release 3 cubic metres per second.

Water will flow through Khlong Thanon near Phaholyothin road, Khlong Lat Phrao canal and the Rama IX flood-diversion tunnel into the Chao Phraya. More water will flow from Bang Bau canal and Bang Khen canal to the Chao Phraya.

Officials predict that the Bang Khen canal will be a weak point in the test, as water will flow close to Vibhavadi Rangsit Road and Lat Phrao Soi 56.

"Today will be a turning point in dealing with Bangkok flooding if the drainage test can run smoothly," Hydro and Agro Informatics Institute director Dr Royol Chitradon, a member of NWRFPC, said.

"The success of today’s drainage test will mean that we can handle large amounts of water and drain it all over a 45-day [period]," he added.

Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra, meanwhile, said the committee did not release large volumes of water during the tests on Wednesday in the western part of Bangkok because it would have affected several residential areas along the canals.

" The amount of water the committee discharged into the canals to run the drainage test was calculated by experts. It was enough to reflect the physical conditions and capacity of the canal to deal with flooding," she said.

Meanwhile, Royol said his team would spend the next two days examining the preliminary test results and the next 30 days coming up with a conclusive report.

Science and Technology Minister Plodprasob Surassawadee, who chairs the NWRFPC, said he would order the committee to stop today 's test if the rainfall exceeds 30 millimetres per hour.

He added the government has also come up with a plan to save other big cities such as Sukhothai and Songkla from flooding.

Under the plan, the government will build floodways to divert water to flow outside the city.

This should also help for the next five to 10 years, especially in areas where people are blocking waterways. The government will also install a drainage system linking each canal and install water pumping devices.

" We will not let floods flow into the big cities," he said.

-- The Nation 2012-09-07

UPDATE 8am

Water agency cancels Friday water flow testing on east side of Bangkok after heavy rain, flooding in many locations /MCOT

The part I read yesterday that encouraged me was the fact that they had identified weak points such as low lying bridges, canal 's narrowing etc. If they can go work on these weak points then everyone will be a winner in the end.

As the levee's showed at New Orleans.........it's the weak points that cause the carnage......keep working at them, just keep working at them.

I say big Like for these tests........keep it going.

The government [...] also approved Bt300 million to support flood-prevention facilities, including pumps to push water out to sea in Nonthaburi province’s Bang Kruay district.

When you have a stupid idea you should stick to it at all costs. Thailand - the hub of water management idiots.

Lets hope they don't floods rest of the rice paddies in Ayutthaya.

The government [...] also approved Bt300 million to support flood-prevention facilities, including pumps to push water out to sea in Nonthaburi province’s Bang Kruay district.

When you have a stupid idea you should stick to it at all costs. Thailand - the hub of water management idiots.

If they carry on like this we may have Nonthaburi-by-the-sea.

Haha

Test today? It was tested heavily by the torrential downpours last night but the 'experts' were all sleeping...

And THB 300 M for maintenance of pumps? What - you gonna gold plate the little suckers?

Water agency cancels Friday water flow testing on east side of Bangkok after heavy rain, flooding in many locations /MCOT

The government [...] also approved Bt300 million to support flood-prevention facilities, including pumps to push water out to sea in Nonthaburi province’s Bang Kruay district.

When you have a stupid idea you should stick to it at all costs. Thailand - the hub of water management idiots.

The pumps are very important to Bangkok's flood defenses, particularly from the local rain (as opposed to rain coming down from the North). Most of the klongs are at or below sea level, so to keep the water flowing and actually get it out of the system they need to use pumps to get it out of the klongs and into the sea.

Water agency cancels Friday water flow testing on east side of Bangkok after heavy rain, flooding in many locations /MCOT

Oh Gawd............brilliant

Water agency cancels Friday water flow testing on east side of Bangkok after heavy rain, flooding in many locations /MCOT

And there I was thinking that they had actually organised the rain to assist their testing.

Water agency cancels Friday water flow testing on east side of Bangkok after heavy rain, flooding in many locations /MCOT

Oh, that takes a first grader to think about that????

and they let the canals go to max again before opening. Rangsit is almost to the top of the banks this morning

Water agency cancels water flow testing east of Bangkok after heavy rain

BANGKOK, Sept 7 – The plan to test water draining preparedness in eastern Bangkok’s canal system on Friday have been cancelled due to the large amount of rain yesterday, according to Dr Royal Chitradon, chairman of the Water and Flood Management Commission's sub-committee on water situation analysis.

Dr Royal, who directs the Hydro and Agro Informatics Institute, said the rainfall was measured at 60-90 millimetres over wide areas, raising the water level in Klong Song to 1.02 metres from mean sea level despite no additional water from upstream being discharged to the canal.

He said that last night, all equipment prepared for the test was used to drain the water. All seven water pushing machines drained water satisfactorily and effectively within two hours. It was seen that the water level downstream in Klong Lat Phrao dropped quickly.

Dr Royal said the water agency will discuss today whether the drainage test in Bangkok's’ eastern canals should be rescheduled.

The government’s first test was conducted Wednesday along the canal network in the west side of the capital. Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra said the overall testing on Wednesday was completed satisfactorily–both in terms of the performance of government officials and the flow of water.

The test is aimed at helping the water agency to evaluate the effectiveness of the canals and pumps in draining water into the sea in preparation of the northern run-off in October. (MCOT online news)

-- TNA 2012-09-07

Water agency cancels Friday water flow testing on east side of Bangkok after heavy rain, flooding in many locations /MCOT

- so there is no need to do any test, because a few hours of natural rain proved that the city floods! - imagine what a few days of rain would do!!

Water agency cancels Friday water flow testing on east side of Bangkok after heavy rain, flooding in many locations /MCOT

- so there is no need to do any test, because a few hours of natural rain proved that the city floods! - imagine what a few days of rain would do!!

And that takes a group of high status politicians and so called doctor degree scientists to figure THAT out!!!!

Water agency cancels water flow testing east of Bangkok after heavy rain

BANGKOK, Sept 7 – The plan to test water draining preparedness in eastern Bangkok’s canal system on Friday have been cancelled due to the large amount of rain yesterday, according to Dr Royal Chitradon, chairman of the Water and Flood Management Commission's sub-committee on water situation analysis.

Dr Royal, who directs the Hydro and Agro Informatics Institute, said the rainfall was measured at 60-90 millimetres over wide areas, raising the water level in Klong Song to 1.02 metres from mean sea level despite no additional water from upstream being discharged to the canal.

He said that last night, all equipment prepared for the test was used to drain the water. All seven water pushing machines drained water satisfactorily and effectively within two hours. It was seen that the water level downstream in Klong Lat Phrao dropped quickly.

Dr Royal said the water agency will discuss today whether the drainage test in Bangkok's’ eastern canals should be rescheduled.

The government’s first test was conducted Wednesday along the canal network in the west side of the capital. Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra said the overall testing on Wednesday was completed satisfactorily–both in terms of the performance of government officials and the flow of water.

The test is aimed at helping the water agency to evaluate the effectiveness of the canals and pumps in draining water into the sea in preparation of the northern run-off in October. (MCOT online news)

-- TNA 2012-09-07

what the hell is a water pushing machine? water is a liquid you may pump it but not push.

RT @tulsathit: RT @natty_tang: RT @nnanews: Canals rise in many Bkk areas after heavy rains past 2 days. Drainage tunnels working like a dog.

Dr Royal Chitradon, chairman of the Water and Flood Management Commission's sub-committee on water situation analysis.

Is that as in.. submarine ??

Now that's forward thinking

what the hell is a water pushing machine? water is a liquid you may pump it but not push.

Something operating like an automated squeegee I presume

Water agency cancels Friday water flow testing on east side of Bangkok after heavy rain, flooding in many locations /MCOT

Oh, that takes a first grader to think about that????

Water agency cancels Friday water flow testing on east side of Bangkok after heavy rain, flooding in many locations /MCOT

- so there is no need to do any test, because a few hours of natural rain proved that the city floods! - imagine what a few days of rain would do!!

Do you guys suggest they should release the extra water and go ahead with the tests? Only sensible thing to do was to cancel the test as was announced before hand if rain would exceed certain levels. Be sure the idiots on TV will complain about the Thais regardless...

WB

RT @tulsathit: RT @natty_tang: RT @nnanews: Canals rise in many Bkk areas after heavy rains past 2 days. Drainage tunnels working like a dog.

If that's anything like how a soi dog works, it explains why there is some flooding.

Sent from my HTC phone.

The heavy rain made the test unnecessary........

RT @tulsathit: RT @natty_tang: RT @nnanews: Canals rise in many Bkk areas after heavy rains past 2 days. Drainage tunnels working like a dog.

So, not working then.

//edit/about the same speed as one finger typing

Edited September 7, 201213 yr by Thaddeus

Water agency cancels Friday water flow testing on east side of Bangkok after heavy rain, flooding in many locations /MCOT

AFH!!!

Water agency cancels Friday water flow testing on east side of Bangkok after heavy rain, flooding in many locations /MCOT

AFH!!!

prob not a result of this test but the river but today looks like someone dumped about 8,000,000 tonnes of those water lilly weed things in it and yet the BMA sends out a few of those little yellow canoes with a motor on the back and two poor blokes with shovel sized scoopy things to pick it up. they will be there for years.

This stuff appeared overnight like it has been flushed from every clogged up klong in the city.

I just shake my head at the images of rafts of barges used to accelerate the top foot of water for 20m. This science minister really is "unique", "Thai water is different from Farlang water" !!!! I suppose Thai gravity is as well.

Edited September 7, 201213 yr by chantsurfer

FLOOD DRAINAGE TEST

Test cancelled: Royal Chitradon

The Nation, Thai News Agency

Royal

BANGKOK: -- Water drainage test in Bangkok's eastern region have been cancelled due to the large amount of rain yesterday, said Royal Chitradon, chairman of the Water and Flood Management Commission's sub-committee on water situation analysis.

The rainfall was measured at 60-90 millimetres over wide areas, raising the water level in Klong Song to 1.02 metres from mean sea level despite no additional water from upstream being discharged to the canal, he said. He is director of the Hydro and Agro Informatics Institute.

Last night, all equipment prepared for the test was used to drain the water. All seven water pushing machines drained water satisfactorily and effectively within two hours. It was seen that the water level downstream in Klong Lat Phrao dropped quickly.

Royal said the water agency will discuss today whether the drainage test in Bangkok’s' eastern canals should be rescheduled.

The government's first test was conducted Wednesday along the canal network in the west side of the capital. Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra said the overall testing on Wednesday was completed satisfactorily-both in terms of the performance of government officials and the flow of water.

The test is aimed at helping the water agency to evaluate the effectiveness of the canals and pumps in draining water into the sea in preparation of the northern run-off in October.

-- The Nation 2012-09-07

It's gonna rain big time for at least two months, so what's all the testing good for???