Men In Black: Red Shirt Leader Jatuporn Testifies To Dsi

[nurofiend]

Ask the reporter.

and again, where did he claim this?

your linked article is not proving your point.

And again "ask the reporter".

what reporter?

you said the source backed up Kattiya's claim that he was keeping war weapons and ammo at his house.

so where is this claim that he made that you know about?

[nurofiend]

Next they will be saying,that they didn't try to burn down Bangkok either

who's the first 'they' and then who's the second 'they'?

red shirts? all inclusive yeah?

They! meaning the Red shirts,not difficult to work out as they were the only ones doing the burning.

oh, you may have misunderstood...i just wanted to fully confirm that you are one of the tar all with one brush brigade.

[MAJIC]

Next they will be saying,that they didn't try to burn down Bangkok either

who's the first 'they' and then who's the second 'they'?

red shirts? all inclusive yeah?

They! meaning the Red shirts,not difficult to work out as they were the only ones doing the burning.

oh, you may have misunderstood...i just wanted to fully confirm that you are one of the tar all with one brush brigade.

They did a pretty good job of tarring themselves, no outside help was necessary.

[whybother]

what reporter?

you said the source backed up Kattiya's claim that he was keeping war weapons and ammo at his house.

so where is this claim that he made that you know about?

* sigh *

Check the link. It says that Kattiya claimed it, and the claim was backed up by a source.

[nurofiend]

what reporter?

you said the source backed up Kattiya's claim that he was keeping war weapons and ammo at his house.

so where is this claim that he made that you know about?

* sigh *

Check the link. It says that Kattiya claimed it, and the claim was backed up by a source.

* sigh *

no.... it says "He has been publicly accused of keeping war weapons and ammunition in his house"

you said he claimed it, i asked you where he claimed this several times... and you have still failed to provide the evidence of him claiming that.

[hellodolly]

Ask the reporter.

and again, where did he claim this?

your linked article is not proving your point.

Do you not feel some what dishearten that all your ridiculous claims are just that. You have nothing just a wear did they say that and then you deny it when you are told.

You are the type who would argue over weather McDonald sold Big Mac's or Whoppers. You would claim they sold whoppers just to be argumentative.

[whybother]

* sigh *

no.... it says "He has been publicly accused of keeping war weapons and ammunition in his house"

you said he claimed it, i asked you where he claimed this several times... and you have still failed to provide the evidence of him claiming that.

You are correct. Going back to read the full quote ... He claimed he trained rangers to protect the red shirts ... and that claim was backed up by the source.

[nurofiend]

who's the first 'they' and then who's the second 'they'?

red shirts? all inclusive yeah?

They! meaning the Red shirts,not difficult to work out as they were the only ones doing the burning.

oh, you may have misunderstood...i just wanted to fully confirm that you are one of the tar all with one brush brigade.

They did a pretty good job of tarring themselves, no outside help was necessary.

most reasonable people conclude that the majority are and were peaceful, including abhisit!, why can't you?

oh yeah, i've already answered that one for you above.

[nurofiend]

Ask the reporter.

and again, where did he claim this?

your linked article is not proving your point.

Do you not feel some what dishearten that all your ridiculous claims are just that. You have nothing just a wear did they say that and then you deny it when you are told.

You are the type who would argue over weather McDonald sold Big Mac's or Whoppers. You would claim they sold whoppers just to be argumentative.

ridiculous claims? i don't expect an answer to that one, just another slur to add to your tally.

it's not where did he say that, it's that he didn't say that, understand? no? ok.

[Buchholz]

His and an assistant being arrested with war weapons at their house and car also back up the claim.

they found a few grenades in his home in a military compound in a search headed by his good buddy anupong according to the nation anyway.

but "war weapons and ammunition" sounds so much more colourful doesn't it...

Because it's more accurate than what a red shirt minimalist is implying with "a few grenades"

Khattiya and six of his aides were found with a wide variety of war weapons (involving more than "a few grenades) in March 2010.

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Edited October 22, 2012 by Buchholz

[hellodolly]

nurofiend

Here is the whole paragraph. Notice he does not deny it and in the same sentence as the accusation he claimed he trained former para-military rangers as a “people’s army” to protect red shirt leaders and their followers

Yes it does say he has publicly been accused of keeping war weapons and ammunition in his house.

A charge he never denied. Here is the paragraph.

Seh Daeng has been an embarrassment to and a thorn in the side of his army superiors. Issuing threats and suspected of being involved in a grenade attack on army chief General Anupong Paojinda’s office, Seh Daeng has been vocal in his support for fugitive former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra and his red shirt supporters. Seh Daeng has used the media to predict violence and boasted about his visits to overseas luxury hideouts to see the fugitive Thaksin. He has been publicly accused of keeping war weapons and ammunition in his house and he has claimed he trained former para-military rangers as a “people’s army” to protect red shirt leaders and their followers – a claim supported by an unnamed military source.

[MAJIC]

@ nurofiend, answer to your Post 68

(too many blocks of quoted text)

Ans ..........But of course! some Redshirts were there just for the wages.

[nurofiend]

His and an assistant being arrested with war weapons at their house and car also back up the claim.

they found a few grenades in his home in a military compound in a search headed by his good buddy anupong according to the nation anyway.

but "war weapons and ammunition" sounds so much more colourful doesn't it...

Because it's more accurate than what a red shirt minimalist is implying with "a few grenades"

Khattiya and six of his aides were found with a wide variety of war weapons (involving more than "a few grenades) in March 2010.

.

we're talking about war weapons and ammunition found in his home, ok i won't say a few grenades, i'll just say grenades.

how is "war weapons and ammunition" more accurate? answer me that in context to what was found in his home.

and let's get it straight, i'm not a defender of the man, he was a threat to peace.

so save the simplistic 'red shirt' title for someone else...(see above my avatar for further details on this style of posting)

Edited October 22, 2012 by nurofiend

[Soi Sauce]

Here comes Hitler.

You cannot argue with that.

Btw; where did Pol Pot die, who loves Myanmar's approach to the populace, and has a best friend, even a brother as they said, who was part of the Khmer Rouge?

What is going to happen here is frightening. You're a fool if you don't believe that.

[nurofiend]

@ nurofiend, answer to your Post 68

(too many blocks of quoted text)

Ans ..........But of course! some Redshirts were there just for the wages.

outstanding.

[nurofiend]

Here comes Hitler.

You cannot argue with that.

Btw; where did Pol Pot die, who loves Myanmar's approach to the populace, and has a best friend, even a brother as they said, who was part of the Khmer Rouge?

What is going to happen here is frightening. You're a fool if you don't believe that.

Here comes Hitler.

it get's better and better, christ above.

actually you know what hitler did, tarred a whole section of people with the one brush.

[Skywalker69]

Here comes Hitler.

You cannot argue with that.

Btw; where did Pol Pot die, who loves Myanmar's approach to the populace, and has a

best friend, even a brother as they said, who was part of the Khmer Rouge?

What is going to happen here is frightening.

You're a fool if you don't believe that.

Here comes Hitler.

it get's better and better, christ above.

actually you know what hitler did, tarred a whole

section of people with the one brush.

Yes but Hitler vas democraticlly elected, right?

[OzMick]

most reasonable people conclude that the majority are and were peaceful, including abhisit!, why can't you?

oh yeah, i've already answered that one for you above.

If you and 3 of your mates decide to rob a 7/11, and one of your mates pulls out a gun and shoots dead an employee or customer, who is guilty of murder?

Try to understand that while committing criminal acts in company, you are liable for the actions of every one of that company. When black/red shirts start killing security people, it is time to depart rapidly, or face the inevitable result.

Of course later you can whine "we done nuffink rong" and claim murder by the authorities.

[nurofiend]

most reasonable people conclude that the majority are and were peaceful, including abhisit!, why can't you?

oh yeah, i've already answered that one for you above.

If you and 3 of your mates decide to rob a 7/11, and one of your mates pulls out a gun and shoots dead an employee or customer, who is guilty of murder?

Try to understand that while committing criminal acts in company, you are liable for the actions of every one of that company. When black/red shirts start killing security people, it is time to depart rapidly, or face the inevitable result.

Of course later you can whine "we done nuffink rong" and claim murder by the authorities.

top analogy there ozmick.

[OzMick]

most reasonable people conclude that the majority are and were peaceful, including abhisit!, why can't you?

oh yeah, i've already answered that one for you above.

If you and 3 of your mates decide to rob a 7/11, and one of your mates pulls out a gun and shoots dead an employee or customer, who is guilty of murder?

Try to understand that while committing criminal acts in company, you are liable for the actions of every one of that company. When black/red shirts start killing security people, it is time to depart rapidly, or face the inevitable result.

Of course later you can whine "we done nuffink rong" and claim murder by the authorities.

top analogy there ozmick.

I'm glad you agree, rather than point out my error.

[nurofiend]

most reasonable people conclude that the majority are and were peaceful, including abhisit!, why can't you?

oh yeah, i've already answered that one for you above.

If you and 3 of your mates decide to rob a 7/11, and one of your mates pulls out a gun and shoots dead an employee or customer, who is guilty of murder?

Try to understand that while committing criminal acts in company, you are liable for the actions of every one of that company. When black/red shirts start killing security people, it is time to depart rapidly, or face the inevitable result.

Of course later you can whine "we done nuffink rong" and claim murder by the authorities.

top analogy there ozmick.

I'm glad you agree, rather than point out my error.

and i'm glad you acknowledge the error of your point.

[OzMick]

If you and 3 of your mates decide to rob a 7/11, and one of your mates pulls out a gun and shoots dead an employee or customer, who is guilty of murder?

Try to understand that while committing criminal acts in company, you are liable for the actions of every one of that company. When black/red shirts start killing security people, it is time to depart rapidly, or face the inevitable result.

Of course later you can whine "we done nuffink rong" and claim murder by the authorities.

top analogy there ozmick.

I'm glad you agree, rather than point out my error.

and i'm glad you acknowledge the error of your point.

Should i work it out for myself, or would you like to help?

[nurofiend]

Here comes Hitler.

You cannot argue with that.

Btw; where did Pol Pot die, who loves Myanmar's approach to the populace, and has a

best friend, even a brother as they said, who was part of the Khmer Rouge?

What is going to happen here is frightening.

You're a fool if you don't believe that.

Here comes Hitler.

it get's better and better, christ above.

actually you know what hitler did, tarred a whole

section of people with the one brush.

Yes but Hitler vas democraticlly elected, right?

right.

[nurofiend]

most reasonable people conclude that the majority are and were peaceful, including abhisit!, why can't you?

oh yeah, i've already answered that one for you above.

If you and 3 of your mates decide to rob a 7/11, and one of your mates pulls out a gun and shoots dead an employee or customer, who is guilty of murder?

Try to understand that while committing criminal acts in company, you are liable for the actions of every one of that company. When black/red shirts start killing security people, it is time to depart rapidly, or face the inevitable result.

Of course later you can whine "we done nuffink rong" and claim murder by the authorities.

so i really have to explain to you that you saying 3 people robbing a 711 and one guy murders someone so the three of them should be done for murder - is a stupid analogy to use when talking about thousands upon thousands of people holding a protest and a relatively tiny minority of rogue elements who caused trouble, meaning we should say the thousands upon thousands are guilty of all the trouble caused? that's the gist yeah?

they were all in on it eh?

try to understand the difference in circumstance between thousands upon thousands of people who are mostly only linked and connected by their political belief, not personally, and 3 guys holding up a 711.

and then re-think your amazing analogy.

[hgma]

from hunted to bounty hunter.

wasn't there a million bath offered for the MIB resolvement???????

Yellow-red-black- no further comment.

[TruthEyes]

So why havn't the undemocratic elements of thai society, improved their international credibility, and shut Jatuporn up by parading captured "MIB"

The undemocratic dems are looking increasingly pathetic day by day

[looping]

Jatuporn, fresh back from his meeting with TS, earns another record paycheck by claiming that black is white!

[FOODLOVER]

Here he is denying all responsibility once more.

[Buchholz]

His and an assistant being arrested with war weapons at their house and car also back up the claim.

they found a few grenades in his home in a military compound in a search headed by his good buddy anupong according to the nation anyway.

but "war weapons and ammunition" sounds so much more colourful doesn't it...

Because it's more accurate than what a red shirt minimalist is implying with "a few grenades"

Khattiya and six of his aides were found with a wide variety of war weapons (involving more than "a few grenades) in March 2010.

we're talking about war weapons and ammunition found in his home, ok i won't say a few grenades, i'll just say grenades.

how is "war weapons and ammunition" more accurate? answer me that in context to what was found in his home.

and let's get it straight, i'm not a defender of the man, he was a threat to peace.

so save the simplistic 'red shirt' title for someone else...(see above my avatar for further details on this style of posting)

We were talking about war weapons found in the homes and cars of his and his associates.

That you would attempt to minimize that to a "few grenades" only is his home deservedly earns the moniker "minimalist".

.

[OzMick]

most reasonable people conclude that the majority are and were peaceful, including abhisit!, why can't you?

oh yeah, i've already answered that one for you above.

If you and 3 of your mates decide to rob a 7/11, and one of your mates pulls out a gun and shoots dead an employee or customer, who is guilty of murder?

Try to understand that while committing criminal acts in company, you are liable for the actions of every one of that company. When black/red shirts start killing security people, it is time to depart rapidly, or face the inevitable result.

Of course later you can whine "we done nuffink rong" and claim murder by the authorities.

so i really have to explain to you that you saying 3 people robbing a 711 and one guy murders someone so the three of them should be done for murder - is a stupid analogy to use when talking about thousands upon thousands of people holding a protest and a relatively tiny minority of rogue elements who caused trouble, meaning we should say the thousands upon thousands are guilty of all the trouble caused? that's the gist yeah?

they were all in on it eh?

try to understand the difference in circumstance between thousands upon thousands of people who are mostly only linked and connected by their political belief, not personally, and 3 guys holding up a 711.

and then re-think your amazing analogy.

OK, I'll change it to 100 guys demand money from a 7/11 because one of them was short-changed, and one of them pulls out a gun and shoots somebody.

Now you still have your "minor" criminality, the belief that they were somehow justified, financial compensation for the chief instigator, and joint responsibility for a murder committed in another criminal act.

Try to understand that thousands upon thousands of people commit a crime, it is still a crime despite what they believe. And when some of them commit murder, that guilt is shared by all who do not immediately disassociate themselves and disclaim such acts. But how can they when they are urged by their leaders to commit violence?