And the army was completely innocent I suppose!!!!!

No. Does that give an excuse to the red shirts to kill innocent people?

Of course not, but out of curiosdity, how many innocent folks killed by the redshirts ??

And, does that give the army an excuse to kill and wound about 2600 innocent, unarmed people ??

Nurses ???

All but one army/police casualties may be put on the red-shirts. How many army/police personel were wounded and whether or not these are included in the 2600 tally I do not know.

To ask 'does that give the army an excuse' is trying to shift focus. The army had legal orders to clear a protest which wasn't really peaceful anymore, they could defend themselves legally, they could target armed suspects, they might be tempted to shoot before asking questions. Now the 'peaceful protesters' didn't have any legal right to be armed or even lob grenades.

Wow it would have been great if they'd have just had Black shirts and White shirts so then we'd know who was the goodies and who was the baddies. As you keep reminding me about staying on topic but you seem to stray plenty I remind again about the American revolution where the British government were legally entitled to levy taxes on the colonies but some bloody upstarts started shooting at them - well the rest is history - sometimes the law is just wrong.

but do you even know what she has or hasn't done besides that? and i'm talking details.

Sorry, I can't find my magnifying glass, so, would you care to give me a list of her achievements, the ones that have actually benefited the Thai populous.

Those comments exist for a reason, yes it is boring, but the only person that can change that is Yingluck.

Prevent them by doing something worthwhile, maybe attending a meeting in parliament, maybe have an opinion that she though of on her own.

If she starts to take some steps to actually fixing the inherent problems in Thai politics, I will be one of the first to applaud her, until that point in time, she is a Burrberry boot wearing Barbie doll who likes shopping.

i know you know she hasn't attended parliament enough, fair enough, no argument here.

but do you even know what she has or hasn't done besides that? and i'm talking details.

No offence, but does anyone know or has been told details on what the ever smiling PM Yingluck does?

Wow it would have been great if they'd have just had Black shirts and White shirts so then we'd know who was the goodies and who was the baddies. As you keep reminding me about staying on topic but you seem to stray plenty I remind again about the American revolution where the British government were legally entitled to levy taxes on the colonies but some bloody upstarts started shooting at them - well the rest is history - sometimes the law is just wrong.

Situation completely different, argument fail.

but do you even know what she has or hasn't done besides that? and i'm talking details.

Sorry, I can't find my magnifying glass, so, would you care to give me a list of her achievements, the ones that have actually benefited the Thai populous.

Rumour has it the price pledging policy which has cost the taxpayer anything between THB 280 and 400 billion has made some people rich!

As always your faithfully,

Big Yellow Bird

but do you even know what she has or hasn't done besides that? and i'm talking details.

Sorry, I can't find my magnifying glass, so, would you care to give me a list of her achievements, the ones that have actually benefited the Thai populous.

so in fact the only thing you know about what she does in her work is not attend parliament enough, is that what you're telling me?

Edited October 23, 201213 yr by nurofiend

but do you even know what she has or hasn't done besides that? and i'm talking details.

Sorry, I can't find my magnifying glass, so, would you care to give me a list of her achievements, the ones that have actually benefited the Thai populous.

Rumour has it the price pledging policy which has cost the taxpayer anything between THB 280 and 400 billion has made some people rich!

As always your faithfully,

Big Yellow Bird

It's just hit me, Chalerm is Cookie Monster.

I think the records stuck!!!

Your comment made me think of a TISM song.

Actually TISM weren't gigging in Bangkok about April - May 2010 were they???

Wow it would have been great if they'd have just had Black shirts and White shirts so then we'd know who was the goodies and who was the baddies. As you keep reminding me about staying on topic but you seem to stray plenty I remind again about the American revolution where the British government were legally entitled to levy taxes on the colonies but some bloody upstarts started shooting at them - well the rest is history - sometimes the law is just wrong.

Situation completely different, argument fail.

Wasn't an argument so how could it fail, it's like you claiming to know everything Yingluck has done or not done. I'm sure she tells you????

Edited October 23, 201213 yr by sysardman

Of course not, but out of curiosdity, how many innocent folks killed by the redshirts ??

And, does that give the army an excuse to kill and wound about 2600 innocent, unarmed people ??

Nurses ???

All but one army/police casualties may be put on the red-shirts. How many army/police personel were wounded and whether or not these are included in the 2600 tally I do not know.

To ask 'does that give the army an excuse' is trying to shift focus. The army had legal orders to clear a protest which wasn't really peaceful anymore, they could defend themselves legally, they could target armed suspects, they might be tempted to shoot before asking questions. Now the 'peaceful protesters' didn't have any legal right to be armed or even lob grenades.

Wow it would have been great if they'd have just had Black shirts and White shirts so then we'd know who was the goodies and who was the baddies. As you keep reminding me about staying on topic but you seem to stray plenty I remind again about the American revolution where the British government were legally entitled to levy taxes on the colonies but some bloody upstarts started shooting at them - well the rest is history - sometimes the law is just wrong.

Black shirts, white shirts? Let me check what Othello had to say about bleeding red

As for the law being wrong, no comment. We Dutch are pragmatic

but do you even know what she has or hasn't done besides that? and i'm talking details.

Sorry, I can't find my magnifying glass, so, would you care to give me a list of her achievements, the ones that have actually benefited the Thai populous.

so in fact the only thing you know about what she does in her work is not attend parliament enough, is that what you're telling me?

No, I am asking you what she has achieved, is that too hard a question, or is the answer too uncomfortable for you?

Wasn't an argument so how could it fail, it's like you claiming to know everything Yingluck has done or not done. I'm sure she tells you????

You made a post that was contrary, basis of an argument.

Now, would you like to give me a list of Yinglucks achievements, not the ones for friends, family, siblings, hangers-on, lackeys and the other ner-do-wells.

But, a list of her achievements for the common people of Thailand.

You are right, I can't list them.

We were talking about war weapons found in the homes and cars of his and his associates.

eh... no we weren't.

that's just blatantly incorrect.

read back.

Err... yes, we were.

At least that's what my first post that you responded to said.

Do you always seem to struggle this much?

His and an assistant being arrested with war weapons at their house and car also back up the claim.

Actually TISM weren't gigging in Bangkok about April - May 2010 were they???

James Paull died of cancer in 2008. I don't think they've done much since.

For those who haven't heard of TISM, besides the song "come back DJ", they also did "what are ya", "five yards" and "BFW".

Look them up on YouTube.

We were talking about war weapons found in the homes and cars of his and his associates.

eh... no we weren't.

that's just blatantly incorrect.

read back.

Err... yes, we were.

At least that's what my first post that you responded to said.

Do you always seem to struggle this much?

His and an assistant being arrested with war weapons at their house and car also back up the claim.

actually you responded to a conversation between myself and whybother about him and the quote of war weapons and ammo.

do you always seem to struggle to be honest and sincere so much? or do you just enjoy misleading people?

Edited October 23, 201213 yr by nurofiend

but do you even know what she has or hasn't done besides that? and i'm talking details.

Sorry, I can't find my magnifying glass, so, would you care to give me a list of her achievements, the ones that have actually benefited the Thai populous.

so in fact the only thing you know about what she does in her work is not attend parliament enough, is that what you're telling me?

No, I am asking you what she has achieved, is that too hard a question, or is the answer too uncomfortable for you?

no it's not uncomfortable to me at all and i will explain why later, but you seemingly find what i'm putting to you uncomfortable.

i don't think you know much about her at all, but are happy to bash away regardless, or am i wrong?

Very wrong.

And I can't wait..... shall I hold my breath?

actually you responded to a conversation between myself and whybother about him and the quote of war weapons and ammo.

do you always seem to struggle to be honest and sincere so much? or do you just enjoy misleading people?

I made a post. You replied to it.

We discussed back and forth twice.

Now you're telling me that what I wrote at first is not what I wrote at first.

Even when I quote what I wrote at first, now you're telling us it was something else and that now I'm deceiving others others about what I wrote.

Go have a rest and spare the mods for deleting your nonsense bickering.

actually you responded to a conversation between myself and whybother about him and the quote of war weapons and ammo.

do you always seem to struggle to be honest and sincere so much? or do you just enjoy misleading people?

I made a post. You replied to it.

We discussed back and forth twice.

Now you're telling me that what I wrote at first is not what I wrote at first.

Even when I quote what I wrote at first, now you're telling us it was something else and that now I'm deceiving others others about what I wrote.

Go have a rest and spare the mods for deleting your nonsense bickering.

you made a post in reply to a discussion i was having with someone else.

continue to mislead and then bring the mods into it, it's what you're good at.

Very wrong.

And I can't wait..... shall I hold my breath?

yeah hold your breath...

anyway, i believe i asked for details of what you know about what she does and does not do?

give me that and i'll tell you, if you haven't ran out of oxygen by that stage that is.

Stop the bickering please.

Which part of 'stop the bickering please' is difficult to understand? If you want a holiday just carry on. I'm happy to oblige.

Wasn't an argument so how could it fail, it's like you claiming to know everything Yingluck has done or not done. I'm sure she tells you????

You made a post that was contrary, basis of an argument.

Now, would you like to give me a list of Yinglucks achievements, not the ones for friends, family, siblings, hangers-on, lackeys and the other ner-do-wells.

But, a list of her achievements for the common people of Thailand.

You are right, I can't list them.

1. She reduced the company tax.

2?

3?

4-99?

Posts have been removed and holidays have been given.

Wow it would have been great if they'd have just had Black shirts and White shirts so then we'd know who was the goodies and who was the baddies. As you keep reminding me about staying on topic but you seem to stray plenty I remind again about the American revolution where the British government were legally entitled to levy taxes on the colonies but some bloody upstarts started shooting at them - well the rest is history - sometimes the law is just wrong.

One of the main differences that makes your analogy irrelevant is that the people didn't have the chance to vote who they wanted in power.