Rush Of Drug Shipments Leads To Huge Seizures Across Thailand

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Rush of drug shipments leads to huge seizures across country

Kwanhatai Malaikarn,

Prateep Nantaparp

The Nation

Pol Snr Sgt-Major Manas Suapho is escorted back to prison yesterday after undergoing one of many interrogation sessions as investigators try to get more information from him about drug trafficking. He has confessed to having delivered drugs several times

BANGKOK: -- Police have made three huge seizures of at least 900,000 methamphetamine tablets each in the past 10 days.

Aware that police plan to install X-ray machines at checkpoints along many roads soon, traffickers had arranged huge deliveries of illicit drugs in recent days, National Police deputy commissioner Pol General Somyos Pumpanmuang told a news conference.

Speaking at the same event, Deputy Prime Minister Chalerm Yoobamrung said a million methamphetamine tablets were found in 10 cases sent by Attapon Kerd-achacharn through legal logistics services.

Attapon was arrested on Monday, along with two other suspects, in front of a hotel in Chiang Mai.

Police tracked Attapon down after three other drug suspects arrested on October 9 implicated him.

After his arrest, police accompanied Attapon in picking up the cases from a transport-service company in Pathum Thani.

Another haul took place on October 18 in Chiang Rai, when police intercepted a truck and found 900,000 methamphetamine tablets. Manop Khunkrai and Anuwat sae Song were arrested after police stopped the truck, in which the drugs were allegedly hidden under a shipment of lignite.

On Sunday, police seized 1.28 million methamphetamine tablets from a drug suspect who then implicated many of his accomplices including Bangkok-based Pol Snr Sgt-Major Manas Suapho, ex-policeman Prawin Tuaipa and Prawin's wife Suchada.

Manas has turned himself in to police and given useful information. Prawin and his wife are still on the run. Deputy Metropolitan Police Commissioner Maj-General Thitiraj Nongharnpitak said the manhunt now focused on the couple.

More than Bt77 million worth of assets has been seized from the couple and their accomplices.

Meanwhile, Metropolitan Police Division II will set up a panel to investigate Manas' supervisor at the Prachachuen Police Station to determine whether he was negligent in overseeing his subordinates.

-- The Nation 2012-10-27

[asiawatcher]

The dis-ease of Asia is corruption and it goes hand in hand with drugs. Who wants to work 60 hours a week in Thailand (or anywhere) when they can get a months pay in a day - it is a fierce incentive and the loss of shipment has no impact on supply at all. A calculated risk by the manufacturers and there will always be willing vendors and distributors as demand does not wane.

[fareastguy]

This is just the tip of a very large ice-burg !!

While I agree entirely with your post above, I think the rewards even for the runners is a bit more than a months money for a day's work..

Judging by Manas.. his profit from drug running was rather good.

What the "Big man" is making god only knows.

[JeremyBowskill]

Filth selling Filth, 1 would hope being a copper in a Thai jail is the same as most other countries in the world, and if he ever gets out I hope he has a bum hole like a clowns pocket.

[hgma]

Its a flipping decease.... contaminating neighborhoods and families.

[lizardtongue]

Filth selling Filth, 1 would hope being a copper in a Thai jail is the same as most other countries in the world, and if he ever gets out I hope he has a bum hole like a clowns pocket.

I hope he has a bum hole like a clowns pocket.

Please enlighten me as to the size of a clowns pocket?

[lizardtongue]

Aware that police plan to install X-ray machines at checkpoints along many roads soon, traffickers had arranged huge deliveries of illicit drugs in recent days, National Police deputy commissioner Pol General Somyos Pumpanmuang told a news conference.

A step in the right direction? But I guess it can still be 'by passed' by a corrupt official 'looking the other way' ?

[siamjimi]

They must have been dealing on someone else's turf - that's why they are being rounded up coz the baht stops here

[JeremyBowskill]

Filth selling Filth, 1 would hope being a copper in a Thai jail is the same as most other countries in the world, and if he ever gets out I hope he has a bum hole like a clowns pocket.

I hope he has a bum hole like a clowns pocket.

Please enlighten me as to the size of a clowns pocket?

Its big and it takes on water in the bath is all anyone really needs to know.

[Nordicdolphin]

Guess what drug cause the MOST DAMAGE to families around the world....by far.....ALCOHOL

So where is the difference?

TAX the sh... out of everything that causes harm,GUNS included.I bet you the result would be greater than the so called wars against this and that,which have no positive affect at all.

[JeremyBowskill]

Guess what drug cause the MOST DAMAGE to families around the world....by far.....ALCOHOL

So where is the difference?

TAX the sh... out of everything that causes harm,GUNS included.I bet you the result would be greater than the so called wars against this and that,which have no positive affect at all.

I shall tell you the difference, Alcohol on its comedown does not make you want to hack the <deleted> out of yourself, family members and anyone in the general vicinity. Where as a rule I would support your stance on a legalisation of most drugs (as I have pretty much tried them all in my past) not on this absolutley god awful crystal meth based abomination. Its very difficult to get tax out of a unhinged loone with a machete, good luck in trying.

[Scott]

Almost every time there is a thread on drugs, someone decides to bring up alcohol as the most dangerous drug.

This thread is not about alcohol.

[surangw]

contaminate the drugs and put them back out on the street to speed up the process of killing off the fools that use them.

[slow riot]

thread on drugs

bring up alcohol

This thread is not about alcohol

Like it or not, alcohol is a drug.

And it is by far the drug with the most harmful consequences, both quantitatively and qualitatively.

If you don't agree, I would ask you to put your prejudices aside and spend some dear time reading about the subject.

Let no one be fooled, most of the harm doesn't come from the chemicals themselves. They come from:

Misinformation -> Users don't know how much is in their doses. Most overdoses are unintentional. Sell drugs in pharmacies and get rid of most overdoses.

Users don't know what the real risks are. Inform people instead of letting rumours go around and you'll get, for instance, no more water intoxication, because "You need to drink a looot of water with this or you'll get dehydrated"

Marginalization -> Users cannot be open about their use. They cannot easily ask for advice from people competent to answer.

They have to restrict their use to circles that are also living marginally, which may further ostracize them, maybe leading to an unhealthy or criminal lifestyle.

If they could take their drug of choice like you drink your bud, they could peacefully consume a safe amount with the money their earned, without bothering anyone.

Lies -> Once a user realizes how much the authorities lie about a drug, he's not likely to trust any advice from people who haven't ever used the drugs they are talking about.

If you need examples of lies, well... I pretty much have yet to hear anything both true and complete about a drug from the authorities of [your favourite country here].

Be honest about both the positive and negative aspects of a drug and users will more likely consider both.

And of course, there is the harm of the lies that people who have never used drugs believe.

A meth addict turns violent -> first page of the news papers. Everyone thinks that after taking meth once you become a murderer.

Thousands of drunks turn violent every day -> no mention anywhere except on the faces of the beaten wives

10,000 dead a year on the roads (Th), a good part of them due to drunk driving -> you hear about them on the 13th of April and then you're good for one year

Tousands of heroin addicts who never do anything harmful to anyone -> People who only get their information from the media don't even know they exist.

Prohibition -> Users can't go to the store to buy drugs, they have to get them through illegal ways, which may imply getting involved with shady people (ex: corrupted cops)

Drugs being illegal, they are much more expensive than they would be on the legal market. Users feeling already rejected by society for not being able to use freely, as you drink your beer, are more likely to try to get the money they need illegaly.

Prohibition - violence

Legalization - peace

History both past and present is witness

Look at the USA, Mexico or Thailand and their overwhelming failure in an unecessary war.

See Portugal and its huge success in dealing peacefully with its drug consumption.

(I'm sorry, I don't really ever open this site and may be here to reply, so if you feel like writing a long post, maybe check before that someone else will be willing to participate in the exchange of ideas )

[slow riot]

ah! Just as I'm going to close the window, I see a good example 2 threads above this once:

"Red Bull heir did 'coke' before accident"

BANGKOK: -- Traces of cocaine were found in the blood of the Red Bull heir who ran a traffic-police officer over with his Ferrari this year.

The Thong Lor Police Station told the media yesterday that Vorayuth Yoovidhya, 27, the youngest son of Red Bull tycoon Chalerm Yoovidhya, did indeed have traces of cocaine in his blood as well as more alcohol than is permissible by law on the day of the accident.a

- traces of cocaine -> he took cocaine 2 or 3 days before (or those wouldn't be "traces")

- more alcohol than is permissible by law -> he was drunk

the title -> "coke before accident"

What people remember : Cocaine makes you have accidents

What actually happened : Alcohol made him have an accident

[driedmango]

I don't know how someone could equate Beer with Crystal Meth..

Beer - Used responsibly by most humans for thousands of years, from all natural ingredients, has some nutritional value.

Meth - synthetic drug made in the garage out of household chemicals, the most addictive drug known to man, in fact not many addicts will ever hope of quitting, causes mass death in all users in a short time. Allows people no not eat or sleep until they are dead.

Meth or Yabba is not something that should ever be legal, you would see every single child using it and they would all die, the world would be like a madhouse if meth was used like Beer.

I think the future lies in evaluation of drugs on a individual basis, pot for instance is mostly harmless compared to many things apart from many side effects, magic mushrooms are rarely abused, even some synthetic drugs maybe.

But it is silly to think of the liberal utopia of all drugs being legal when you start looking at meth - most people will get addicted in a few times using, they will never be able to quit (trust me this is from the rehab centers that have never seen ANYONE be able to quit this) , and they will never be the same again, there is NOTHING good about this drug and would cause billions of deaths, wars and complete destruction of the human race.

It is very sad to think of poor areas of the world like Laos and Cambodia where life is already SO HARD, and give them all an addiction that they will never quit, that will ruin their body and mind overnight and will cause them to starve to death basicly as they lose their mind, and you see the answer lies in EDUCATION about this drug and doing your best to stomping it out, as this drug should never ever be sold to humans.

Making the connection with Meth and Beer is about as silly as it gets and you are only lying to yourself.

[fasteddie]

thread on drugs

bring up alcohol

This thread is not about alcohol

Like it or not, alcohol is a drug.

And it is by far the drug with the most harmful consequences, both quantitatively and qualitatively.

If you don't agree, I would ask you to put your prejudices aside and spend some dear time reading about the subject.

Let no one be fooled, most of the harm doesn't come from the chemicals themselves. They come from:

Misinformation -> Users don't know how much is in their doses. Most overdoses are unintentional. Sell drugs in pharmacies and get rid of most overdoses.

Users don't know what the real risks are. Inform people instead of letting rumours go around and you'll get, for instance, no more water intoxication, because "You need to drink a looot of water with this or you'll get dehydrated"

Marginalization -> Users cannot be open about their use. They cannot easily ask for advice from people competent to answer.

They have to restrict their use to circles that are also living marginally, which may further ostracize them, maybe leading to an unhealthy or criminal lifestyle.

If they could take their drug of choice like you drink your bud, they could peacefully consume a safe amount with the money their earned, without bothering anyone.

Lies -> Once a user realizes how much the authorities lie about a drug, he's not likely to trust any advice from people who haven't ever used the drugs they are talking about.

If you need examples of lies, well... I pretty much have yet to hear anything both true and complete about a drug from the authorities of [your favourite country here].

Be honest about both the positive and negative aspects of a drug and users will more likely consider both.

And of course, there is the harm of the lies that people who have never used drugs believe.

A meth addict turns violent -> first page of the news papers. Everyone thinks that after taking meth once you become a murderer.

Thousands of drunks turn violent every day -> no mention anywhere except on the faces of the beaten wives

10,000 dead a year on the roads (Th), a good part of them due to drunk driving -> you hear about them on the 13th of April and then you're good for one year

Tousands of heroin addicts who never do anything harmful to anyone -> People who only get their information from the media don't even know they exist.

Prohibition -> Users can't go to the store to buy drugs, they have to get them through illegal ways, which may imply getting involved with shady people (ex: corrupted cops)

Drugs being illegal, they are much more expensive than they would be on the legal market. Users feeling already rejected by society for not being able to use freely, as you drink your beer, are more likely to try to get the money they need illegaly.

Prohibition - violence

Legalization - peace

History both past and present is witness

Look at the USA, Mexico or Thailand and their overwhelming failure in an unecessary war.

See Portugal and its huge success in dealing peacefully with its drug consumption.

(I'm sorry, I don't really ever open this site and may be here to reply, so if you feel like writing a long post, maybe check before that someone else will be willing to participate in the exchange of ideas )

Probably the most brilliant post I have ever seen on TV.

[driedmango]

The thing is with Alcohol most humans use this regular in their life (not all I know) it is made from such a natural and simple process, it is 100% natural that way, we know the side effects are bad for many people, but we know that even the Judge or Doctor that works with the bad cases enjoy a drink now and then, it's positive effect are many, it's regular use by most people is not an issue. It's bad effects are NEVER understated, everyone knows what a Alcholic is like, everyone knows some people can't handle it... but you will never be able to get rid of it.

If meth was used as casual as beer, we would ALL be addicted to this, of course it causes people to completely go mad and kill people, the rehab centers in Vancouver do not work with Meth addicts, THEY HAVE NEVER GOT ONE PERSON TO QUIT OTHER THAN JAILING, herion, cocanie everything else can be quit, meth leaves a person like bipolar for life.. go read about it.

[driedmango]

If METH WAS USED AS COMMON AS BEER THERE WOULD BE NO PEACE OR HOPE FOR FOR THE HUMAN RACE, it would be like world war 2 everyday everywhere, don't fool yourself.

[fasteddie]

Guess what drug cause the MOST DAMAGE to families around the world....by far.....ALCOHOL

So where is the difference?

TAX the sh... out of everything that causes harm,GUNS included.I bet you the result would be greater than the so called wars against this and that,which have no positive affect at all.

shall tell you the difference, Alcohol on its comedown does not make you want to hack the <deleted> out of yourself, family members and anyone in the general vicinity.I Where as a rule I would support your stance on a legalisation of most drugs (as I have pretty much tried them all in my past) not on this absolutley god awful crystal meth based abomination. Its very difficult to get tax out of a unhinged loone with a machete, good luck in trying.

''I shall tell you the difference, Alcohol on its comedown does not make you want to hack the <deleted> out of yourself, family members and anyone in the general vicinity''

No, just while you're still pissed, you feel too bad on the comedown to do anything!

[fasteddie]

ah! Just as I'm going to close the window, I see a good example 2 threads above this once:

"Red Bull heir did 'coke' before accident"

BANGKOK: -- Traces of cocaine were found in the blood of the Red Bull heir who ran a traffic-police officer over with his Ferrari this year.

The Thong Lor Police Station told the media yesterday that Vorayuth Yoovidhya, 27, the youngest son of Red Bull tycoon Chalerm Yoovidhya, did indeed have traces of cocaine in his blood as well as more alcohol than is permissible by law on the day of the accident.a

- traces of cocaine -> he took cocaine 2 or 3 days before (or those wouldn't be "traces")

- more alcohol than is permissible by law -> he was drunk

the title -> "coke before accident"

What people remember : Cocaine makes you have accidents

What actually happened : Alcohol made him have an accident

Spot on!

[fasteddie]

The thing is with Alcohol most humans use this regular in their life (not all I know) it is made from such a natural and simple process, it is 100% natural that way, we know the side effects are bad for many people, but we know that even the Judge or Doctor that works with the bad cases enjoy a drink now and then, it's positive effect are many, it's regular use by most people is not an issue. It's bad effects are NEVER understated, everyone knows what a Alcholic is like, everyone knows some people can't handle it... but you will never be able to get rid of it.

If meth was used as casual as beer, we would ALL be addicted to this, of course it causes people to completely go mad and kill people, the rehab centers in Vancouver do not work with Meth addicts, THEY HAVE NEVER GOT ONE PERSON TO QUIT OTHER THAN JAILING, herion, cocanie everything else can be quit, meth leaves a person like bipolar for life.. go read about it.

''it's positive effect are many''

name them.

[driedmango]

The thing is with Alcohol most humans use this regular in their life (not all I know) it is made from such a natural and simple process, it is 100% natural that way, we know the side effects are bad for many people, but we know that even the Judge or Doctor that works with the bad cases enjoy a drink now and then, it's positive effect are many, it's regular use by most people is not an issue. It's bad effects are NEVER understated, everyone knows what a Alcholic is like, everyone knows some people can't handle it... but you will never be able to get rid of it.

If meth was used as casual as beer, we would ALL be addicted to this, of course it causes people to completely go mad and kill people, the rehab centers in Vancouver do not work with Meth addicts, THEY HAVE NEVER GOT ONE PERSON TO QUIT OTHER THAN JAILING, herion, cocanie everything else can be quit, meth leaves a person like bipolar for life.. go read about it.

''it's positive effect are many''

name them.

Well, I can't speak for everyone, but for me Beer is a great drug and only a positive in my life at 34 years old, I am not stupid enough to think it couldn't be a problem, but I have used most drugs when I was younger.

See, everything is different for everyone, except Meth, nobody has ever quit when they were addicted, show me one case, I know this I help addicts off the street in Vancouer, and if they are a meth head it just about how you can stop them from harming anyone, they can never quit and it is just a matter of time until death, they never believe that, but it is a FACT.

For me Beers Postiive effects, Judge me if you wish, but it is only positive for me, not true for everyone

1. I can take it or leave it. I don't drink often.

2. As a kind of shy person it always makes me much more lose and I can enjoy myself, dance like a madman, meet people easier, and all that tighness in my social life is gone for a bit.

3. It is a natural seditive, - I tend to be a nervous person, it sooths some peoples nervous system, i am one of them, I always sleep like a baby after a few drinks.

4. I am someone that needs as many calories as I can get, beer has calories.

5. It is socially acceptable to most people, and legal, so I never get in trouble for it, myself anyways.

6. i laugh alot when I drink and really that is the best thing about it, I have never felt like some others on beer, I do not become violent as is teh case with a few percent of humans.

7. Wine aids in digestion and also is great for your heart, and the taste of food is improved.

Maybe this isn't true for you , I don't care, it is for me, but I have seen 1st hand the harmful effects of Meth and lots of Farang I am sure in Thailand have become addicted, I will say for certain they will never be able to quit, and they are dying and becoming crazy, This isn't some bias option, this is from anyone that has been involved in their past with the rave scene, anyone that did meth enough to get addicted is now dead or in Jail or holding on to life waiting to die, the people that did E well, they might still do it now and then, they quit and many are trying to figure out if their emotinal problems are from E use.

Some think MDMA and Meth are the same Drug, True to a confused person they can see the letters "meth" at the begginning, but yabba is a process of smoking 100 x the amount of "speed" some remember from days past, that hits the blood stream instantly, this is the problem, your body overreacts to it and you no longer can feel regular pleasure in your life after this, also some suspect that regular MDMA users from years past are being emotional wreaks, even though doctors are shooting off left and right how unharmfull MDMA is I think most of the veteran raves are not consulted on what kind of emotional problems they seem to notice in their peers, and also their lack of sex drive.

Am I saying there should be a massive drug war ? No - What I am saying, that some people would never understand, if ALL drugs were legal and "regulated" what would be next ? every human addictited to whatever a lab can make cheap that has to pay daily for something so they can have a bowell movment ? it would be a tax on living, it would mean drugs that make people killers for evil empires, it would mean drugs to shut your child up, it would mean drugs that would never let you question anything about yourself and we would be all slaves, think about it.

Edited October 27, 2012 by driedmango

[JeremyBowskill]

Guess what drug cause the MOST DAMAGE to families around the world....by far.....ALCOHOL

So where is the difference?

TAX the sh... out of everything that causes harm,GUNS included.I bet you the result would be greater than the so called wars against this and that,which have no positive affect at all.

shall tell you the difference, Alcohol on its comedown does not make you want to hack the <deleted> out of yourself, family members and anyone in the general vicinity.I Where as a rule I would support your stance on a legalisation of most drugs (as I have pretty much tried them all in my past) not on this absolutley god awful crystal meth based abomination. Its very difficult to get tax out of a unhinged loone with a machete, good luck in trying.

''I shall tell you the difference, Alcohol on its comedown does not make you want to hack the <deleted> out of yourself, family members and anyone in the general vicinity''

No, just while you're still pissed, you feel too bad on the comedown to do anything!

Got a little worse for wear yesterday as it happens Eddie. I didn't hack anyone up in fact I didn't even raise my voice at anyone and had a good time throughout. I do have a hangover this morning, but it hasn't stopped me getting up at 7am and being compus enough to reply to your post. It also is not a bad enough feeling to stop me thinking about going out for Sunday lunch and having a few more beers today. I am not one of these lost souls who you often see in Thailand who spend their life parra I only drink on a Saturday and sunday if I feel like it And never in the week.

[Davedub]

Like it or not, alcohol is a drug.

And it is by far the drug with the most harmful consequences, both quantitatively and qualitatively.

If you don't agree, I would ask you to put your prejudices aside and spend some dear time reading about the subject.

Let no one be fooled, most of the harm doesn't come from the chemicals themselves. They come from:

Misinformation -> Users don't know how much is in their doses. Most overdoses are unintentional. Sell drugs in pharmacies and get rid of most overdoses.

Users don't know what the real risks are. Inform people instead of letting rumours go around and you'll get, for instance, no more water intoxication, because "You need to drink a looot of water with this or you'll get dehydrated"

Marginalization -> Users cannot be open about their use. They cannot easily ask for advice from people competent to answer.

They have to restrict their use to circles that are also living marginally, which may further ostracize them, maybe leading to an unhealthy or criminal lifestyle.

If they could take their drug of choice like you drink your bud, they could peacefully consume a safe amount with the money their earned, without bothering anyone.

Lies -> Once a user realizes how much the authorities lie about a drug, he's not likely to trust any advice from people who haven't ever used the drugs they are talking about.

If you need examples of lies, well... I pretty much have yet to hear anything both true and complete about a drug from the authorities of [your favourite country here].

Be honest about both the positive and negative aspects of a drug and users will more likely consider both.

And of course, there is the harm of the lies that people who have never used drugs believe.

A meth addict turns violent -> first page of the news papers. Everyone thinks that after taking meth once you become a murderer.

Thousands of drunks turn violent every day -> no mention anywhere except on the faces of the beaten wives

10,000 dead a year on the roads (Th), a good part of them due to drunk driving -> you hear about them on the 13th of April and then you're good for one year

Tousands of heroin addicts who never do anything harmful to anyone -> People who only get their information from the media don't even know they exist.

Prohibition -> Users can't go to the store to buy drugs, they have to get them through illegal ways, which may imply getting involved with shady people (ex: corrupted cops)

Drugs being illegal, they are much more expensive than they would be on the legal market. Users feeling already rejected by society for not being able to use freely, as you drink your beer, are more likely to try to get the money they need illegaly.

Prohibition - violence

Legalization - peace

History both past and present is witness

Look at the USA, Mexico or Thailand and their overwhelming failure in an unecessary war.

See Portugal and its huge success in dealing peacefully with its drug consumption.

(I'm sorry, I don't really ever open this site and may be here to reply, so if you feel like writing a long post, maybe check before that someone else will be willing to participate in the exchange of ideas )

Sadly, whilst I am in 100% agreement with the above, you will never convince those who only understand the drug problem from the media's perspective. I've tried before - it's like beating your head on a brick wall!

The answers are in education and medical support, as any well informed person knows. However, a 'War on <whatever>' makes money for arms dealers and their shareholders - aka. those with political and media power. So nothing will change until the general public wakes up.

Common sense and logic are nothing in the face of media generated hysteria - a fact borne out by the pathetic results of the last 40 years war on drugs

.

[asiawatcher]

All drugs and alcohol can destroy families and people. The drugs do it a lot faster and booze is not as addictive thus way less of a risk for total destruction of finances and health. Thankfully I can only afford the booze.

[Konini]

If METH WAS USED AS COMMON AS BEER THERE WOULD BE NO PEACE OR HOPE FOR FOR THE HUMAN RACE, it would be like world war 2 everyday everywhere, don't fool yourself.

I have to disagree a little here - those stupid enough to try it or who are already addicted would come out of the shadows onto the main street and it would only take a very short time for kids seeing what it does to you for them to be scared off it for life. At the moment it may well be the mystique around it that leads people to try it as much as anything, and I believe you can become addicted from first time use. It would be unsaleable in a very short period of time, and then only to those who haven't quite reached the crescendo of the Darwinism peak then there would be no market for it at all for at least a generation. I know a lot of recreational drug users - even, shock horror, heroin. They get high at the weekend instead of getting drunk, and go back to their normal, often well paid, jobs and lead their normal family lives for the rest of the week. Sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind, and the removal of a few genes from the pool would be worth it if it stopped a whole generation wanting to 'see if it really is that good'. The genes removed from the pool would be no great loss, as it would be their own stupidity which led to their removal.