ErikSamui Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Yesterday I wondered why Green Mango, Solo and Sound is closed. I googled it and found your web site explaining what's going on. Well ... if closing the clubs for some days will help that they are "allowed" to open till late in the future. I don't think so. I was in Chaweng late evening today. Looks like Solo, Green Mango and Sound will not open today. But ... guess what ... Now it is 7pm. Ark Bar already cranked up the sound volume to a level that whole Chaweng can hear it. Everybody soon knows where the party is tonight, tomorrow, next week ;-) After one week of closed Sound, Solo and Green Mango they will realize that nobody is missing them. Customers are already taken over. What a big deal for the Ark bar in the low season. And it was for free ! I'm not in the bar or tourist business, but I hope some days my competitors will also close down for a week and send me all their customers :-) I cannot believe how the Ark Bar lets the owners of Sound, Solo, Green Mango and all the other bars loose their face. Now everybody knows who has the word and who has the power in Chaweng. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigC Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Chaweng is always dead on the night of the Full Moon Party lol. Well Galaxy, Hush Bar and Flow will be open... That much I know Scrap that... Hush is closed and I don't know now about Flow and Galaxy... My guess is they will probably also be closed. Hush will deffo be open business as usual tomorrow though. not interested in Galaxy at all the prices in there are rediuclas i really dont know how they can compete with the thai market same in pattaya there again they arfe still open so to them that is all that matters. must be some mugs wanting to pay high price for goods and services when next door are doing the same thing with different people for fraction of the price how do those girls work there. do u need a work permit to be a pole dancer or am i pushing the boundaries by mentioning it. It has always baffled me even with pattaya about the strict working laws for forangs yet there are forang russians dancing round the poll and i doubt they are doing it for free. maybe it is one of those questions dont ask because get no answer .....ineresting. does that mean i can drive a taxi??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samui543 Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 (edited) All about politics and dollar folks. Central bought the land to build mall.- it backs onto green mango- dont take a genious to see what is happening forgot the Disney World over and beyond the lake Edited October 31, 2012 by samui543 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatorade Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Obviously you can't!........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mufcsamui Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Last night all bars on Soi reggae closed. All bars have been ordered to pay 2000 baht more in tea money per month. The BiB has also asked my wife for 2000 baht now, never paid anything before. I would imagine the the "fee" increase for solo bar has risen very high. Absolute rubbish i have been drinking in soi reggae Tuesday and Wednesday, 50% of bars closed on Tuesday but all open last night, Most closed at 2am but reggae and the new South club remained open until 3am as per normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsamui Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 How about the people who have no idea where they are staying when they book their holiday, and wind up in a Hotel that they can't sleep in because of the noise? And how about the people that live in the general vicinity of these clubs? Are they supposed to close up their homes and businesses and move away just so they can enjoy some piece and quiet? It is about time that the authorities stopped this noise pollution once and for all, and I am not talking about just Samui, but all over Thailand. I don't have anything against all night partying or bars that stay open 24 hours, but make them build away from residential / Hotel areas and have to build somewhat soundproof buildings, if they want to play loud music all night. Hmmm . . . whatever happened to the "zoning" laws that there was such a fuss about somewhere around 2004/5, I recall.? They are still law as far as I am aware There was a big row back then with all the Thai nightclub owners ranting as Nathon's sing-a-song- bar got a licence but some parts of Chaweng were refused an "entertainment" licence and bars were being asked to shut at 1:00 am. Likewise the bars outside of Chaweng in Bang Rak and Mae Nam were supposed to close at 1:00 also. This is one of the cute things about Thailand - they churn out laws all the time, play at enforcing them for a while, and then stop bothering - until some government twit with time on his hands decides to have a national "spit only in the gutter" week. Like other poster have pointed out - all the banner waving and posturing will immediately cease as soon as the first full BKK airways flights start coming in on the 20th December and the bars will mysteriously open again (or even sooner). Right now is the low low low season so who's suffering? All these venues are probably losing money right now anyway. R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsamui Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Post in Calithumpian & reply deleted. Please keep within the parameters of English. Thank you. How excitatious! Had to look this one up! Thank you Rooo. (But are you not being a bit hard on Big C?) R Calathumpian is used in a non-judgmental way to describe an outlook or philosophy when it is relatively original, held by a small group, personally assembled, or not institutionalized. In addition it is sometimes used as a non-specific example of a religious or political persuasion. For instance "just because a Caluthumpian believes 'x', does not make it right". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsamui Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 (edited) I was in Chaweng late evening today. Looks like Solo, Green Mango and Sound will not open today. But ... guess what ... Now it is 7pm. Ark Bar already cranked up the sound volume to a level that whole Chaweng can hear it. Everybody soon knows where the party is tonight, tomorrow, next week ;-) and, earlier, Rooo said: I just fail to understand the initial post. Is this ruling only applying to Chaweng ? Does this ruling apply to all the island & the Chaweng entrepreneurs are the ones taking the fight to the government, only concerned about their area? Does that mean that the National law now applicable to Samui? Someone was here a week ago, I wonder if it has anything to do with it The VIP someone and her folks were assembling at the Nor* Bur* - which is up the hill and almost completely facing that part of Chaweng beach where the Arc bar is located. I bet that that bass-line, coming and going on the breeze till all hours might just have filtered through into the governmental consciousness . . . R Edited November 1, 2012 by robsamui Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsamui Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Chaweng is always dead on the night of the Full Moon Party lol. Well Galaxy, Hush Bar and Flow will be open... That much I know Scrap that... Hush is closed and I don't know now about Flow and Galaxy... My guess is they will probably also be closed. Hush will deffo be open business as usual tomorrow though. not interested in Galaxy at all the prices in there are rediuclas i really dont know how they can compete with the thai market same in pattaya there again they arfe still open so to them that is all that matters. must be some mugs wanting to pay high price for goods and services when next door are doing the same thing with different people for fraction of the price how do those girls work there. do u need a work permit to be a pole dancer or am i pushing the boundaries by mentioning it. It has always baffled me even with pattaya about the strict working laws for forangs yet there are forang russians dancing round the poll and i doubt they are doing it for free. maybe it is one of those questions dont ask because get no answer .....ineresting. does that mean i can drive a taxi??? Not if you drive it the way you use a spell-checker . . . R 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsamui Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 All about politics and dollar folks. Central bought the land to build mall.- it backs onto green mango- dont take a genious to see what is happening forgot the Disney World over and beyond the lake If you are talking about the proposed Central department store, then that plot of land is already being cleared, near McDonald's, running through all the way from the Beach Road to the lake . . . nowhere near Soi green Mango. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khman Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 they should create an organisation and ask for a change in law or a license to open till late, this would solve the problem and stop the police asking big bribes. I doubt this is possible. The 2am law applies all over Thailand, not just Samui. AFAIK there's no such thing as a license to open late, there's only paying off the cops. New taxi law when they HAVE TO take customers with meters also applies to all Thailand... and see the result... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsamui Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 they should create an organisation and ask for a change in law or a license to open till late, this would solve the problem and stop the police asking big bribes. I doubt this is possible. The 2am law applies all over Thailand, not just Samui. AFAIK there's no such thing as a license to open late, there's only paying off the cops. New taxi law when they HAVE TO take customers with meters also applies to all Thailand... and see the result... Ah - good idea - the taxis won't use their meters so now the customers are taking their own meters? - excellent! R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooo Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 I have a map of zoning someone posted on here previously. Will have to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangrakBob Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 11 pm last night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooo Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Entertainment Zoning for Samui. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsamui Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 (edited) Entertainment Zoning for Samui. Nice find, Rooo. Did you accidentally put two maps the same . . . ? Is there another section showing Chaweng Beach Road? Where is Area No. 1? I seem to recall that this was what all the protests were about some years ago. At the time some local big-wigs with families on the parish council had a couple of sing-a-song karaoke joints in that obscure reach of Chaweng that were in the backroads heading away from Chawerng Lake Road in the direction of the Ghost Road. Nowhere near the hot-spots of Soi Green Mango. This 'back area' was deemed Chawengs 'entertainment zone' and could stay open late. The rest had to shut at 1:00 am. In theory - unless this zoning law has been repealed - ALL the bars and clubs in or near Chaweng Beach Road by law still must close at 1:00 am. (Although I also recall that, after a week or two of police bikes coming round every night at 1:00 am to enforce this, it just stopped happening.) Was there ever a 'late zoning' applied to the Soi green Mango area - I don't think there was . . . R Edited November 1, 2012 by robsamui Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tropicalevo Posted November 1, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2012 11 pm last night Looks quite pleasant. I might have to visit Chewang 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmine Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Post in Calithumpian & reply deleted. Please keep within the parameters of English. Thank you. How excitatious! Had to look this one up! Thank you Rooo. (But are you not being a bit hard on Big C?) R Calathumpian is used in a non-judgmental way to describe an outlook or philosophy when it is relatively original, held by a small group, personally assembled, or not institutionalized. In addition it is sometimes used as a non-specific example of a religious or political persuasion. For instance "just because a Caluthumpian believes 'x', does not make it right". Harsh on BigC!! Certainly not...don't be rediuclas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooo Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Post in Calithumpian & reply deleted. Please keep within the parameters of English. Thank you. How excitatious! Had to look this one up! Thank you Rooo. (But are you not being a bit hard on Big C?) R Calathumpian is used in a non-judgmental way to describe an outlook or philosophy when it is relatively original, held by a small group, personally assembled, or not institutionalized. In addition it is sometimes used as a non-specific example of a religious or political persuasion. For instance "just because a Caluthumpian believes 'x', does not make it right". Harsh on BigC!! Certainly not...don't be rediuclas! Actually it wasn't a Big C post. It was an actual post in Calathumpian. or in better words a very foreign language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooo Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Did you accidentally put two maps the same . . . ? Is there another section showing Chaweng Beach Road? Where is Area No. 1? Fixed. I don't know where area 1 is. I think the total paramter is area 1 , then the inner 2 special zone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsamui Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Post in Calithumpian & reply deleted. Please keep within the parameters of English. Thank you. How excitatious! Had to look this one up! Thank you Rooo. (But are you not being a bit hard on Big C?) R Calathumpian is used in a non-judgmental way to describe an outlook or philosophy when it is relatively original, held by a small group, personally assembled, or not institutionalized. In addition it is sometimes used as a non-specific example of a religious or political persuasion. For instance "just because a Caluthumpian believes 'x', does not make it right". Harsh on BigC!! Certainly not...don't be rediuclas! Actually it wasn't a Big C post. It was an actual post in Calathumpian. or in better words a very foreign language. And, pray, precisely what is it that Big C is renowned for? He has to be one of nature's original . . . err . . . Calathumpers . . . (But he's fluffy so that's OK.) R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsamui Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 (edited) Did you accidentally put two maps the same . . . ? Is there another section showing Chaweng Beach Road? Where is Area No. 1? Fixed. I don't know where area 1 is. I think the total paramter is area 1 , then the inner 2 special zone? Aha! Now I remember that this was the only area designated for Chaweng - hence the original (and ongoing) protests. The beach Road/Soi green Mango was never deemed to be an entertainment area. This was Area 2 of Samui's entertainment zones. Area 1 was in Nathon and Area 3 in Lamai. The same thing happened in Lamai. If you look at the permissions, it applied to only the area as you go out of Lamai on the ring-road, up the big hill - where about 6 or 7 years ago they'd built a huge bar complex up the hillside - now defunct, as not a soul ever went there. The entire main area of Lamai was (presumably still is) not included and (officially) had to close at 1:00 am. But the biggest outrage came with Nathon. Back in the early 2000s all there was in Nathon was 3 sing-a-song- karaoke bars - owned by Thai businessmen, one of them being a top police chief - and with no farangs at all at night. Yet the town got the go-ahead for late-night opening, whereas Chaweng Beach Road and the Soi Green Mango/Soi Reggae didn't. Not that I'm suggesting insider trading or that the big-wigs who owned the bars in question had family in the planning offices - perish the thought! But it gives you an idea of why some bar-owners might have cause to be annoyed . . . quite aside from the present and currents protests. R Edited November 1, 2012 by robsamui 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boater Posted November 1, 2012 Author Share Posted November 1, 2012 According to sound clubs FB page , everywhere is open again tonight ... Sent from my iPhone using ThaiVisa app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsamui Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Did you accidentally put two maps the same . . . ? Is there another section showing Chaweng Beach Road? Where is Area No. 1? Fixed. I don't know where area 1 is. I think the total paramter is area 1 , then the inner 2 special zone? Aha! Now I remember that this was the only area designated for Chaweng - hence the original (and ongoing) protests. The beach Road/Soi green Mango was never deemed to be an entertainment area. This was Area 2 of Samui's entertainment zones. Area 1 was in Nathon and Area 3 in Lamai. The same thing happened in Lamai. If you look at the permissions, it applied to only the area as you go out of Lamai on the ring-road, up the big hill - where about 6 or 7 years ago they'd built a huge bar complex up the hillside - now defunct, as not a soul ever went there. The entire main area of Lamai was (presumably still is) not included and (officially) had to close at 1:00 am. But the biggest outrage came with Nathon. Back in the early 2000s all there was in Nathon was 3 sing-a-song- karaoke bars - owned by Thai businessmen, one of them being a top police chief - and with no farangs at all at night. Yet the town got the go-ahead for late-night opening, whereas Chaweng Beach Road and the Soi Green Mango/Soi Reggae didn't. Not that I'm suggesting insider trading or that the big-wigs who owned the bars in question had family in the planning offices - perish the thought! But it gives you an idea of why some bar-owners might have cause to be annoyed . . . quite aside from the present and currents protests. R as a ps - in other words, when Samui was zoned for the entertainment areas, the three zones chosen were where Thai owners had bars where only Thai people went. There was zero - no consideration or thought at all - zoning that included farang-owned bars where foreigners went. R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samui543 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 According to sound clubs FB page , everywhere is open again tonight ... Sent from my iPhone using ThaiVisa app Back to booming beats- what a great PR exercise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maccaroni man Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Did you accidentally put two maps the same . . . ? Is there another section showing Chaweng Beach Road? Where is Area No. 1? Fixed. I don't know where area 1 is. I think the total paramter is area 1 , then the inner 2 special zone? we ran the lakeview bungalows when the entertainment zone was introduced i.e. a 24 hr zone the black moon venue and Q Bar were in the red zone along with many happy/unhappy family homes but soi reggae and soi green mango were not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHJ Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 business is not back as usual but front room at sound open till 3H30, the others until 4H30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooo Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Who has been blasting bass for the last 3-4 nights? Coming from Chaweng area, I can hear it here , up the mountains in Bophut. Give it a rest for God's sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooo Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Entertainment Zoning for Samui. Nice find, Rooo. Did you accidentally put two maps the same . . . ? Is there another section showing Chaweng Beach Road? Where is Area No. 1? I seem to recall that this was what all the protests were about some years ago. At the time some local big-wigs with families on the parish council had a couple of sing-a-song karaoke joints in that obscure reach of Chaweng that were in the backroads heading away from Chawerng Lake Road in the direction of the Ghost Road. Nowhere near the hot-spots of Soi Green Mango. This 'back area' was deemed Chawengs 'entertainment zone' and could stay open late. The rest had to shut at 1:00 am. In theory - unless this zoning law has been repealed - ALL the bars and clubs in or near Chaweng Beach Road by law still must close at 1:00 am. (Although I also recall that, after a week or two of police bikes coming round every night at 1:00 am to enforce this, it just stopped happening.) Was there ever a 'late zoning' applied to the Soi green Mango area - I don't think there was . . . R Do you remember thsi?http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/6947-zoning-on-samui/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooo Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Entertainment Zoning for Samui. Nice find, Rooo. Did you accidentally put two maps the same . . . ? Is there another section showing Chaweng Beach Road? Where is Area No. 1? I seem to recall that this was what all the protests were about some years ago. At the time some local big-wigs with families on the parish council had a couple of sing-a-song karaoke joints in that obscure reach of Chaweng that were in the backroads heading away from Chawerng Lake Road in the direction of the Ghost Road. Nowhere near the hot-spots of Soi Green Mango. This 'back area' was deemed Chawengs 'entertainment zone' and could stay open late. The rest had to shut at 1:00 am. In theory - unless this zoning law has been repealed - ALL the bars and clubs in or near Chaweng Beach Road by law still must close at 1:00 am. (Although I also recall that, after a week or two of police bikes coming round every night at 1:00 am to enforce this, it just stopped happening.) Was there ever a 'late zoning' applied to the Soi green Mango area - I don't think there was . . . R You remember well this is your post from a few years ago:http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/6947-zoning-on-samui/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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