Dsi & Police Shut Down Illegal North Pattaya Lpg Station

[Rimmer]

DSI & Police shut down illegal North Pattaya LPG Station

PATTAYA:--In a joint operation involving Banglamung Police, The National Energy Department and the Department of Special Investigations (DSI), the owners and workers of an LPG Station based in North Pattaya were arrested on Friday accused of selling LPG for vehicles which was intended for domestic use only.

In Thailand the DSI are currently investigating many cases where LPG intended for domestic use, which is cheaper to purchase, is being sold at gas stations. This practice is illegal and the owners of the Tienchai Petrol and Gas Station on the Sukhumvit Road in North Pattaya are accused of selling LPG which they purchased from their supplier who invoiced them at the lower domestic usage price.

Full story:http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/65021/dsi-police-shut-illegal-north-pattaya-lpg-station/

-- Pattaya One 2012-11-03

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[LennyW]

A bit strange why it is only the employees that are being paraded?, they are just the ones that fill the tanks - i cannot see them being responsible for ordering supplies?

I have bought gas for cooking there for years, in fact i just filled 3 tanks on Thursday night as my wife was doing a thing at the temple yesterday!

[johng]

Ohh <deleted> !!! I use this place for cooking gas is it now shut ? thought they where the only refill place in Pattaya !!!!!!!!!!!!

If closed,where now can I get a domestic cooking gas LPG cylinder refilled in Pattaya ??

I don't want to exchange my gas bottle I want it refilled like they do/did at Tienchai,where you could watch them put 15kgs of gas into the tank

for some reason it last much longer than an exchange tank of gas ( wonder why )

[LennyW]

AFAIK this is the only refil place, there is a new LPG station at the end of the Huay Yai road on Sukhumvit but they don't do it - not yet anyway!

Every noodle seller / mom n pop shop went there to fill their tanks, so busy, !!!!

So what now?

[jbrain]

A bit strange why it is only the employees that are being paraded?, they are just the ones that fill the tanks - i cannot see them being responsible for ordering supplies?

I have bought gas for cooking there for years, in fact i just filled 3 tanks on Thursday night as my wife was doing a thing at the temple yesterday!

You better stay low profile then, as they are looking to arrest some more scapegoats

[asiawatcher]

I actually doubt this is against the law or I would at least like to see the statute condemning it.

LPG is LPG and whether it is sold to a cylinder being used in a home or fitted to the back of a car. It is still LPG. The margin increases of course by buying 'domestic gas' as opposed to that purchased for consumption in vehicles, due to taxes.

Years ago in my home country heating oil (otherwise known as diesel), was coloured with a dye to ensure people were not buying cheap home heating oil for vehicle consumption. It was the same stuff and of course we all found ways around the obvious increased apparent consumption and storage of 'heating oil'.

Governments (globally) need to take a hard look at why there are different levels of tax across the same products.

Edited November 3, 2012 by asiawatcher

[jbrain]

I actually doubt this is against the law or I would at least like to see the statute condemning it.

LPG is LPG and whether it is sold to a cylinder being used in a home or fitted to the back of a car. It is still LPG. The margin increases of course by buying 'domestic gas' as opposed to that purchased for consumption in vehicles, due to taxes.

Years ago in my home country heating oil (otherwise known as diesel), was coloured with a dye to ensure people were not buying cheap home heating oil for vehicle consumption. It was the same stuff and of course we all found ways around the obvious increased apparent consumption and storage of 'heating oil'.

Governments (globally) need to take a hard look at why there are different levels of tax across the same products.

And driving with the heating fuel was not against the law then? Edited November 3, 2012 by jbrain

[Rimmer]

Pattaya LPG Gas scammers closed down in Nationwide Operation

PATTAYA:-- Consumers alerted as Regional Police joined local officers in a raid on a local gas station

As part of a nationwide clamp down on tax fraud, officers raided a North Pattaya LPG station where undercover officers had previously established that staff were retailing domestic propane to car owners that pulled up at the station to tank up, unaware that the company was operating illegally.

The National Energy Department and the Department of Special Investigations, which was also involved in the investigation, will also be concerned for the consumers who, unaware that they are buying domestic LPG, may be buying gas with impurities which are unimportant in a domestic home stove but can damage a vehicle engine. Additives in domestic LPG can also cause sludge in a vehicle engine and clog up vital filters

Wholesale prices for domestic LPG are over 1,5 baht lower than bulk tank prices for vehicle use as a tax credit is applied to keep domestic costs lower for home use. In Thailand 95% of all homes use bottled gas for cooking.

With the increase in LPG fuelled vehicles, so more and more gas stations are thought to have been involved in selling the cheaper gas, which is against the law.

Read more: http://www.pattaya103.com/pattaya-lpg-gas-scammers-closed-down-in-nationwide-operation/#ixzz2B98SBzze

--Pattaya 103 FM 2012-11-03

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[LennyW]

I actually doubt this is against the law or I would at least like to see the statute condemning it.

LPG is LPG and whether it is sold to a cylinder being used in a home or fitted to the back of a car. It is still LPG. The margin increases of course by buying 'domestic gas' as opposed to that purchased for consumption in vehicles, due to taxes.

Years ago in my home country heating oil (otherwise known as diesel), was coloured with a dye to ensure people were not buying cheap home heating oil for vehicle consumption. It was the same stuff and of course we all found ways around the obvious increased apparent consumption and storage of 'heating oil'.

Governments (globally) need to take a hard look at why there are different levels of tax across the same products.

And driving with the heating fuel was not against the law then?

Heating oil is heating oil (thinned with parrafin), Diesel is diesel . Clear diesel was for road cars and trucks, red (dyed) diesel was for tractors, the only exception was that you could run a land rover on red diesel if you did not go more than 50Km from the farm.

Absolutely the same stuff and in this instance the same scenario, but for domestic use - less tax (same as agri use - less tax) ,

the customs n excise would just go mental if they caught you running a vehicle withe red diesel in the UK, and for the same reasons here - TAX, or in this case, TAX avoidance.

[OZEMADE]

I actually doubt this is against the law or I would at least like to see the statute condemning it.

LPG is LPG and whether it is sold to a cylinder being used in a home or fitted to the back of a car. It is still LPG. The margin increases of course by buying 'domestic gas' as opposed to that purchased for consumption in vehicles, due to taxes.

Years ago in my home country heating oil (otherwise known as diesel), was coloured with a dye to ensure people were not buying cheap home heating oil for vehicle consumption. It was the same stuff and of course we all found ways around the obvious increased apparent consumption and storage of 'heating oil'.

Governments (globally) need to take a hard look at why there are different levels of tax across the same products.

And driving with the heating fuel was not against the law then?

Heating oil is heating oil (thinned with parrafin), Diesel is diesel . Clear diesel was for road cars and trucks, red (dyed) diesel was for tractors, the only exception was that you could run a land rover on red diesel if you did not go more than 50Km from the farm.

Absolutely the same stuff and in this instance the same scenario, but for domestic use - less tax (same as agri use - less tax) ,

the customs n excise would just go mental if they caught you running a vehicle withe red diesel in the UK, and for the same reasons here - TAX, or in this case, TAX avoidance.

I know that when they run out of Jet A1 fuel at Tullarmarine International Airport in OZ, they use to substitute it for Kerosene. Until they refined more of the Jet Fuel. Mobil Oil Refinery use to do this. They tell me there was not much difference. Edited November 7, 2012 by OZEMADE