Am I A Cheap Charlie If I Don't Tip?

[meatballs]

I regularly go to the massage each day and get a leg or body massage for 100 baht sometimes 99(I know saves me 1 baht) on boukow. Am I a cheap charlie if I don't tip?

[Swiss1960]

Yes... if you are happy

No... if you are not happy

Those girls working in massage shops don't really get a huge % of those 100 Baht... and given the fact that they might only have few customers a day (specially in low season), the really can use (or need if they have kids to care after) tips from their customers.

I normally give 50 / hour as tip, 100 / hour if she does a great job (no... great job does NOT mean what you just thought....)

Edit: Uups... happy also does not mean what some are just thinking

Edited November 14, 2012 by Swiss1960

[Tolley]

Yep you are a cheap charlie. If they arent very good I give them 50baht and 100 baht if they are good.

[gmac]

You have paid the requested rate for the job why should a tip be expected. Certainly not at the 50% and 100% rates being suggested here.

[wans]

if someone does a good job and doesnt ask I will, if they ask I never do

[fakename]

I hope we dont get that tipping thing going here in Thailand. I dont really care what someones home situation might be, and usually none of us know what someones family life might be, so why give a 50% tip, do you do that back home too? Most of the service that you get in Thailand, doesnt deserve a tip, but if it does, then give it. Getting a massage from someone that is more interested in chatting with her friends or on the phone, doesnt deserve anything.

[hansnl]

Now then, anybody thinks Thai will give tip?

[jbrain]

You have paid the requested rate for the job why should a tip be expected. Certainly not at the 50% and 100% rates being suggested here.

Unforunately the lady that does the work doesn't set the price.In fact she has to give the biggest part of the payment to the owner of the massage.

So yes, she deserves a tip since otherwise she will not make the 300 Baht minimum salary a day.

[uptheos]

So yes, she deserves a tip since otherwise she will not make the 300 Baht minimum salary a day.

I don't recall reading that the minimum wage should be made up by a customer......I thought it was the owner of the business that had to ensure it? However, as with other services, tip if the service is good, if not, then leave it......the message might hit home at some point.

[ray35ty]

yes u should tip. 100 baht is just to get you in the door. come on even a 60baht tip is like $2. plus the ladies will recognise your face and give u a shit massage.

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[uptheos]

yes u should tip. 100 baht is just to get you in the door. come on even a 60baht tip is like $2. plus the ladies will recognise your face and give u a shit massage.

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That sounds specialised!

[Tolley]

yes u should tip. 100 baht is just to get you in the door. come on even a 60baht tip is like $2. plus the ladies will recognise your face and give u a shit massage.

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Correct imho.

If no one tipped then these prices wouldnt be sustainable. The women are working for tips. Some guys here dont have a heart at all.

[jbrain]

So yes, she deserves a tip since otherwise she will not make the 300 Baht minimum salary a day.

I don't recall reading that the minimum wage should be made up by a customer......I thought it was the owner of the business that had to ensure it? However, as with other services, tip if the service is good, if not, then leave it......the message might hit home at some point.

You're right about that, but let me tell you a secret.

If the owner of the business would have to guarantee that those ladies each own the minimum salary as set by the government, then the price would not be 99 Baht an hour, but a multiple of that.

[Spoonman]

Remove massage lady from the equation and replace with spare parts random at a Ford dealership I just spent Bt.10000.00 at. what tip should I provide given the excellent service received ?

I chose zero and paid what was on the invoice but what do you peoples reckon, am I a cheap charlie for not tossing her some coin, after all she only did the job she her employer is paying her to do.

Edited November 14, 2012 by Spoonman

[uptheos]

So yes, she deserves a tip since otherwise she will not make the 300 Baht minimum salary a day.

I don't recall reading that the minimum wage should be made up by a customer......I thought it was the owner of the business that had to ensure it? However, as with other services, tip if the service is good, if not, then leave it......the message might hit home at some point.

You're right about that, but let me tell you a secret.

If the owner of the business would have to guarantee that those ladies each own the minimum salary as set by the government, then the price would not be 99 Baht an hour, but a multiple of that.

In that case maybe they would concentrate on what they supposed to do and do the best that they can, otherwise they'll be out of work. It's survival of the fittest and not my problem.

Why subsidise sub standard service? As I said, if the job is done well or even a good attempt is made, tip and tip well.

I don't mind paying a 'multiple of that' provided I get a really good massage, but I don't go to massage places for a girl to flatter me for an hour and then expect a tip for doing so.

[johnnywishbone]

I have very little education.

I am not much to look at.

I have worked very hard all of my life.

I made a lot of money.

When I see a girl or woman doing her best, be it sex, cooking,or cleaning, I respect that. I tip.

I tip a lot of baht. Sometimes,they are shocked.

It's worth it to see their face light up in an honest smile.

[jbrain]

Remove massage lady from the equation and replace with spare parts random at a Ford dealership I just spent Bt.10000.00 at. what tip should I provide given the excellent service received ?

I chose zero and paid what was on the invoice but what do you peoples reckon, am I a cheap charlie for not tossing her some coin, after all she only did the job she her employer is paying her to do.

Do they have a happy ending option at Ford?

[jbrain]

So yes, she deserves a tip since otherwise she will not make the 300 Baht minimum salary a day.

I don't recall reading that the minimum wage should be made up by a customer......I thought it was the owner of the business that had to ensure it? However, as with other services, tip if the service is good, if not, then leave it......the message might hit home at some point.

You're right about that, but let me tell you a secret.

If the owner of the business would have to guarantee that those ladies each own the minimum salary as set by the government, then the price would not be 99 Baht an hour, but a multiple of that.

In that case maybe they would concentrate on what they supposed to do and do the best that they can, otherwise they'll be out of work. It's survival of the fittest and not my problem.

Why subsidise sub standard service? As I said, if the job is done well or even a good attempt is made, tip and tip well.

I don't mind paying a 'multiple of that' provided I get a really good massage, but I don't go to massage places for a girl to flatter me for an hour and then expect a tip for doing so.

But I didn't notice the OP mentionimng anything about below standard service.

[Pormax]

I agree with most of the TV posts here.

Ladies who supply the massage get 50% of what is charged. So 50B an hour is not good.

If the service is good and you are happy then tip.

If not then don't and never return.

Those who do not tip for a good service are CC's

[Spoonman]

Remove massage lady from the equation and replace with spare parts random at a Ford dealership I just spent Bt.10000.00 at. what tip should I provide given the excellent service received ?

I chose zero and paid what was on the invoice but what do you peoples reckon, am I a cheap charlie for not tossing her some coin, after all she only did the job she her employer is paying her to do.

Do they have a happy ending option at Ford?

A happy ending whether it be at Ford or a massage joint would be expressed as a value adder and yes it should be paid for if price agreed and service received either of which has zero to do with tipping a person that is merely doing the job they are paid to do.

[Tolley]

Remove massage lady from the equation and replace with spare parts random at a Ford dealership I just spent Bt.10000.00 at. what tip should I provide given the excellent service received ?

I chose zero and paid what was on the invoice but what do you peoples reckon, am I a cheap charlie for not tossing her some coin, after all she only did the job she her employer is paying her to do.

If you cant seperate the two types of services here then I cant really help you.

You are just being silly making that sort of comparison.

[gmac]

yes u should tip. 100 baht is just to get you in the door. come on even a 60baht tip is like $2. plus the ladies will recognise your face and give u a shit massage.

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Correct imho.

If no one tipped then these prices wouldnt be sustainable. The women are working for tips. Some guys here dont have a heart at all.

Maybe if the tips stopped then the business owners would be forced to pay the workers a proper wage.

[tombkk]

I tip 50 Baht. But in Bangkok, I pay 250 to the establishment, so that‘s a different percentage.

Automotive spares are a totally different issue. Don‘t mix up products and services.

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[smokie36]

Now then, anybody thinks Thai will give tip?

Thais do tip for massage.

[lemoncake]

Very cheap charlie.

Thai's are not big tippers, but even they tip 20 baht irrespective of service level or total amount spent.

[lemoncake]

yes u should tip. 100 baht is just to get you in the door. come on even a 60baht tip is like $2. plus the ladies will recognise your face and give u a shit massage.

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Correct imho.

If no one tipped then these prices wouldnt be sustainable. The women are working for tips. Some guys here dont have a heart at all.

Maybe if the tips stopped then the business owners would be forced to pay the workers a proper wage.

May be if the business owners charged 300 baht instead of 100, then people will be complaining about the prices

[ray35ty]

i spoke to a lady from eden massage. they are a very good massage shop. i started to ask her about this 99baht promotion and wat type of tip they want. she said for foreigner 60bHt to 100. she told me if a customer comes in and doesnt tip next time she will tell other ladies and u will get a rubbish massage.

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[Jayman]

yes u should tip. 100 baht is just to get you in the door. come on even a 60baht tip is like $2. plus the ladies will recognise your face and give u a shit massage.

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Correct imho.

If no one tipped then these prices wouldnt be sustainable. The women are working for tips. Some guys here dont have a heart at all.

Maybe if the tips stopped then the business owners would be forced to pay the workers a proper wage.

Maybe if the tips stopped them the owners would be forced to raise prices.

I tip standard 100 thb for all my massages. If they do a crap job, I don't go back. If they do a great job, I return and ask for them by name.

To each his own. I do know for a fact that these works rely on tips and if the norm was to not get them they would go find other work which in turn would force the process to go up so that the owners could maintain staff.

I can also tell you if you have a habit of not tipping then you will always need to go to a new place as the quality of service you receive will greatly diminish.

In case there is doubt here, I am strictly speaking about a proper massage. I never could understand guys that go to a massage parlor for sexual services especially in a town like pattaya where sex workers are so abundant.

Edited November 14, 2012 by Jayman

[BookMan]

Remove massage lady from the equation and replace with spare parts random at a Ford dealership I just spent Bt.10000.00 at. what tip should I provide given the excellent service received ?

I chose zero and paid what was on the invoice but what do you peoples reckon, am I a cheap charlie for not tossing her some coin, after all she only did the job she her employer is paying her to do.

Do they have a happy ending option at Ford?

Just the lube service

[beachroadlover2]

I speak Thai so the employee and I agree before I sit down how I want to be massaged. All I ask is for the employee not to push anywhere with the palm of her hand. It's lazy/painful or just knocks the wind out of me. Then I come for peace and relaxation. If she speaks to her fellow employee about anything non emergency, I dock my intended tip. Given the previous 2 points are rarely respected....The end is usually 20% tip.